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  Topic: The TCEC...
Mark Young

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PostForum: Computer Chess Club: Tournaments and Matches   Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:19 pm   Subject: Re: The TCEC...
Events as the TCEC should instead be an event for "sports", fun and entertainment, in fact the fans follow them for these reasons. To measure the engine's power relations there are the vario ...
  Topic: Cursed win at TCEC
Mark Young

Replies: 296
Views: 214433

PostForum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics   Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:08 am   Subject: Re: Cursed win at TCEC
Lets make an absurd example to show the point. I play GM Carlsen a 6 game match with 6 fixed and very unsound openings. So unsound I am able to win with white every game. And so is GM Carlsen.
And th ...
  Topic: Cursed win at TCEC
Mark Young

Replies: 296
Views: 214433

PostForum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics   Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:54 am   Subject: Re: Cursed win at TCEC
Because I said dubious opens. As in not sound.
I still don't see why you think that would skew the results, if each engine has to play both sides. In the worst case the start position is a certain w ...
  Topic: Cursed win at TCEC
Mark Young

Replies: 296
Views: 214433

PostForum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics   Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:26 am   Subject: Re: Cursed win at TCEC
Because I said dubious opens. As in not sound.
I still don't see why you think that would skew the results, if each engine has to play both sides. In the worst case the start position is a certain w ...
  Topic: Cursed win at TCEC
Mark Young

Replies: 296
Views: 214433

PostForum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics   Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:33 pm   Subject: Re: Cursed win at TCEC
How can the choice of openings skew results? The engines always get to play both sides of each opening, not?

Because I said dubious opens. As in not sound. Depending on the strength difference of ...
  Topic: Cursed win at TCEC
Mark Young

Replies: 296
Views: 214433

PostForum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics   Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:10 pm   Subject: Re: Cursed win at TCEC
This is what happens when you have rules to adjudicate games, and not let the programs play out the moves.
There is of course always some unfairness in adjudication, in that you assume perfect play ...
  Topic: Cursed win at TCEC
Mark Young

Replies: 296
Views: 214433

PostForum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics   Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:39 pm   Subject: Re: Cursed win at TCEC
I think it should be a draw because engines played with 50-moves on. Who knows what would have happened if they had it disabled?

So yeah.. if you want to allow cursed wins (which I agree), engine p ...
  Topic: Test with Stockfish and Komodo with different contempt
Mark Young

Replies: 13
Views: 1595

PostForum: Computer Chess Club: Tournaments and Matches   Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:57 am   Subject: Re: Test with Stockfish and Komodo with different contempt


I will go at minimum 100 games.

I have never tested Stockfish with such a high contempt before. At the moment Stockfish seems to like the setting at contempt 15. If this test turns out to show ...
  Topic: Test with Stockfish and Komodo with different contempt
Mark Young

Replies: 13
Views: 1595

PostForum: Computer Chess Club: Tournaments and Matches   Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:00 am   Subject: Re: Test with Stockfish and Komodo with different contempt

What is interesting is that Stockfish is 100 elo ahead with best settings for both engines in your test. Stockfish progress has been insane of late.

Yes, progress is amazing.


Here is a test ...
  Topic: Test with Stockfish and Komodo with different contempt
Mark Young

Replies: 13
Views: 1595

PostForum: Computer Chess Club: Tournaments and Matches   Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:42 pm   Subject: Re: Test with Stockfish and Komodo with different contempt
I did a little experiment with contempt for Stockfish and Komodo. 1 thread and 20" + 0.02" games, same test suite of 100 starting positions for each match.
Stockfish with contempt 15 is 20 ...
 
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