How many of you have ordered the new Naum?

[ernest]

Hi,
On the free Naum 2.0, I tested that on a given position analysis (using 1 processor, for reproducibility) the 32-bit version and the 64-bit version are identical in speed.
Is that still true with Naum 2.2?

[Philippe]

Fruit is free now, Toga is free too, to mention 2 strong engines. And Naum is a commercial software, let me laugh . I prefer spending my money for a nice chess program like Chessmaster 11.

[Graham Banks]

And Naum is a commercial software, let me laugh

Strong and very reasonably priced too, so why should you laugh?

[Marc MP]

Fruit is free now, Toga is free too, to mention 2 strong engines. And Naum is a commercial software, let me laugh . I prefer spending my money for a nice chess program like Chessmaster 11.

ChessMaster 11 is likely to be weaker than Fruit 2.3.1 so I don't follow your logic. On a dual-x64 system, Naum 2.2 is almost 100 elo stronger than Fruit 2.3.1. Is Naum 2.2 too strong for you?

[geots]

I just did, and how long did you wait before receiving it? What are your first impressions? I cant wait to play with it.

Hope you enjoy. I hear its a good improvement.

[Uri Blass]

Fruit is free now, Toga is free too, to mention 2 strong engines. And Naum is a commercial software, let me laugh . I prefer spending my money for a nice chess program like Chessmaster 11.

I did not buy naum but I am clearly against your post.

Naum is one of the strongest programs and in case of buying a chess program that is not rybka it is certainly a candidate to buy.

Even Naum single cpu is not weaker than fruit.

From the CEGT 40/20 list

52 Naum 2.2 w32 1CPU 2833 19 19 749 54.7 % 2800 40.1 %
53 Fruit 2.3 Lac 2831 21 21 602 50.1 % 2830 41.7 %
55 Fruit 05/11/03 2822 18 18 869 50.1 % 2822 40.3 %

Uri

[Tony Thomas]

Fruit is free now, Toga is free too, to mention 2 strong engines. And Naum is a commercial software, let me laugh . I prefer spending my money for a nice chess program like Chessmaster 11.

I did not buy naum but I am clearly against your post.

Naum is one of the strongest programs and in case of buying a chess program that is not rybka it is certainly a candidate to buy.

Even Naum single cpu is not weaker than fruit.

From the CEGT 40/20 list

52 Naum 2.2 w32 1CPU 2833 19 19 749 54.7 % 2800 40.1 %
53 Fruit 2.3 Lac 2831 21 21 602 50.1 % 2830 41.7 %
55 Fruit 05/11/03 2822 18 18 869 50.1 % 2822 40.3 %

Uri

I have only played limited amount of games with the new Naum, but I have came to the conclusion that it is indeed a beast. Though it doesnt have claws as sharp as Rybka, it plays so strong that you might actually believe that it is a reverse engineered rybka.

[naum]

Hey Tony,

Don't even joke about these things. You may trigger a Clone War III

Alex

[naum]

I am glad I made you laugh. Laughing is healthy and you should do it often.

Here are some interesting statistics unrelated to your spiteful post:
- Almost half of the sales are done in the first week when people don't even know about the ELO improvement.
- Around 10-15% of buyers are people who post in this forum.
- Almost half of the customers are Germans. Without Germany, computer chess would be barely alive. I don't know why is chess and comp chess so popular there. Is it thanks to the Chessbase advertising or maybe they teach chess in schools?
- Other countries with notable numbers: U.S., Netherlands, U.K., Italy
- Not a single 2.1 or 2.2 customer from Russia !?
- Time I spend working as Java programer in Canada to earn what I get from Naum sales: 1.5 weeks
- Sales of Naum 2.2 in first 3 weeks are already close to total 6 month sales of Naum 2.1
- Around 70-80% of those who bought Naum 2.1 already upgraded to 2.2, but to my surprise there is quite a few new customers. I expected almost no new customers.

Regards,
Alex

[naum]

On my Athlon 64-bit and WinXP-64 Naum 2.0-64 and 2.1-64 are around 8% faster.
Naum 2.2-64 is around 10% faster. Naum is using some bitboards, but it isn't a bitboard only engine like Rybka.

Regards,
Alex