What should I support, UCI or Winboard?

[hgm]

You walk around with your eyes shut? Please explain how setting up Polyglot is easier than using a GUI that understands UCI already.

Setting up Polyglot? Do you live in the stone age, or what? Of course WinBoard users do not have to 'set up' Polyglot to run UCI engines. They just tick 'UCI' in the Load Engine menu dialog...

Please refrain from displaying your ignorance in such an embarrassing way...

[Christopher Conkie]

Setting up Polyglot? Do you live in the stone age, or what? Of course WinBoard users do not have to set up Polyglot to run UCI engines. They just tick 'UCI' in the Load Engine menu dialog...

Please refrain from displaying your ignorance in such an embarrassing way...

"UCI engines running under Polyglot (v 1.4.46b or higher) will get their UCI options transmitted to XBoard, so they can be configured through this XBoard menu. Below you see how this dialog looks for Glaurung, which has quite a few options. The Polyglot options appear also in this dialog."

"Note that the UCI support built in this WinBoard version can only be fully exploited with Michel van den Bergh's recent Polyglot versions (which are of course included in the 4.6.2 installer pack)."

Sorry.....what was that you were saying about "adaptability"?

Well I suppose it's something......

Chris

[hgm]

Yeah, so what? Do you read the word 'set up' anywhere in what you quote?

Fact is that people that want to run UCI engines under WinBoard have to do nothing more than tick a checkbox. There is absolutely nothing to set up.

Look, if you want to talk about this, it would be better if you actually first tried it, so you know how it works. Rather than just reading documentations that you apparently have difficulty understanding. That would save you a lot of embarrassment.

[Christopher Conkie]

Yeah, so what? Do you read the word 'set up' anywhere in what you quote?

Fact is that people that want to run UCI engines under WinBoard have to do nothing more than tick a checkbox. There is absolutely nothing to set up.

Look, if you want to talk about this, it would be better if you actually first tried it, so you know how it works. Rather than just reading documentations that you apparently have difficulty understanding. That would save you a lot of embarrassment.

We try every GUI even yours.

It is always interesting to see other methods of implementing things.

Chris

[Christopher Conkie]

Both?

I support all four! So people can actually have truly everything.

But of course I wouldn't expect you to know. No need to be an esper for that...

Btw, have you already done the test which GUI has better performance in UCI support, WinBoard or Arena, using my GUI- timing toolkit?

Me....why would I? Martin tests in his own way. I doubt he uses your tool. Anyway.....there are 6.

Please try to avoid this unfortunate syndrome......





Chris

[hgm]

Me....why would I?

To inform people with fact, rather than fabrications, for a change? But of course that is not really in your interest, is it?

We try every GUI even yours.

Well, 'we' then apparently means 'we by proxy', because it obviously does not include you. Because your remarks show that you really don't have the faintest notion how it works. You seem to have a total misconception about what 'adapter' means.

As I said, people that install WinBoard through the usual install wizzard only have to tick a checkbox labeled 'UCI' with the selected engine for loading / installing it as UCI engine. Nothing to 'set up', really, other than make sure the engine exists on your computer first. That only exists in your imagination.

[asimpereira]

Wooooooooaaah.... I did not revisit my question for a couple of days and I get 7 pages of responses!
Sorry I did not mean to start a protocol war, but I think I have got the 'right' direction now.

I will support both protocols, starting with UCI.

Thank you gentlemen for the interesting discussion.

[Michel]

Wooooooooaaah.... I did not revisit my question for a couple of days and I get 7 pages of responses!
Sorry I did not mean to start a protocol war, but I think I have got the 'right' direction now.

[michiguel]

Wooooooooaaah.... I did not revisit my question for a couple of days and I get 7 pages of responses!
Sorry I did not mean to start a protocol war, but I think I have got the 'right' direction now.

I will support both protocols, starting with UCI.

Thank you gentlemen for the interesting discussion.

It does not matter anyway... Gaviota supports both

Miguel
PS: Actually, there is a good reason to implement (at least a very basic) winboard/xboard protocol (CECP to be pedantic). With the bk command, Gaviota will give you the full list of moves of TB information. In that way, you will have TB support w/o coding for it. That is actually how Arena does it.

[Daniel Mehrmann]

And what is this silly notion about "my stuff"?

For myself the word "stuff" has no negative meaning. It's just a definition about all things in the case of X-/Winboard (like i learned it on school).

Someone is asking for help, and I am trying to give him some useful advice.

You switching the "focus" on the fly now. We, namely you and me, have a "part thread" debate about Android and polyglot right now and nothing more. This is one of your nice "tricks".

BTW: "Help" is if you would do one post and explain pros about your wb protocol. What you did and currently do is responding on any message in this topic where people write pro stuff for UCI or if they simply tell they like or prefer UCI. This is no help, it's just spamming.

OK, so you are only prepared to give 'help' if you are payed. We took note of that. So you can butt out now.

We ? Well, this offer is a special one only for you of course and i'm sure you know that. But "playing" with the community voice, namely "we" is just another trick by yourself.

However, this talk make no sense at all (as expected).
End of story.[/u]