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Steven Edwards



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: Bounced from FICS Reply to topic Reply with quote

I hadn't been using my FICS account recently but I tried doing so earlier today and found out that Symbolic had been bounced. Apparently they needed an updated application. Why, I do not know. Everything they wanted was already in the finger notes, the same situation as at ICC.

If your program has a FICS account but it hasn't been used recently, you might want to check to see if it's still active.
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Daniel Mehrmann



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: Bounced from FICS Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yep, same problem with my FICS account. Crying or Very sad

All stuff they want are in my finger notes already, but they disabled my account and waiting for a mail. It looks like they did it automaticly without checking the finger notes !

However, i don't accept such handling. They can do with my account what they want. I'll never enter FICS again. Just lousy.... Rolling Eyes

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Daniel
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Vladimir Medvedev



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Bounced from FICS Reply to topic Reply with quote

Same with my comp account GreKoChess. After not playing for some months account was locked, and it was required to send email to support team to unlock it.

But, I did not get any responce from their computer-account support during some months! (I sent at least 10 emails to them...)

I got only one reply from guy in common (human-related) support. He said, it is common situation, for they have only one supporter for comp accounts, who could be on vacations right now, etc. etc.

I don't play on FICS anymore.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Bounced from FICS Reply to topic Reply with quote

Symbolic's account has been reactivated and the program is playing as I write this.

My idea is to use FICS as the initial public test area for Symbolic's Lisp cognitive search while the program's A/B searcher will be playing on ICC.

I hope to have the Lisp searcher running on FICS early next month. It should be good for a few laughs.
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Dann Corbit



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Bounced from FICS Reply to topic Reply with quote

There is an open source rewrite of FICS:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=86389

That means that (for instance) chess programmers could start up their own node.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Bounced from FICS Reply to topic Reply with quote

Sounds like a wonderful idea Dann. Now we just need someone to make it happen. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Bounced from FICS Reply to topic Reply with quote

http://chess.samba.org/ftp/lasker/

I used to use this one (on four machines) when testing. Not for public chess server but I guess it would do that too.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Bounced from FICS Reply to topic Reply with quote

sje wrote:
I hadn't been using my FICS account recently but I tried doing so earlier today and found out that Symbolic had been bounced. Apparently they needed an updated application. Why, I do not know. Everything they wanted was already in the finger notes, the same situation as at ICC.

If your program has a FICS account but it hasn't been used recently, you might want to check to see if it's still active.


A news item was posted back in December of last year about this. Not saying it was the best method but the following explains why the reapp was required.

Code:

1200 (Wed, Dec  6) Important information for computer account owners.

A recent review of the computer accounts shows that most are no longer in
\   compliance with our rules. The most common violations of our rules are 1)
\   Using another engine than the one authorized by Computers(*), 2) Missing
\   information about hardware/software/owner in the finger notes and 3)
\   Playing variants which the account was not authorized for. In order to
\   correct this we have decided that all computer account owners will have to
\   send in an updated application stating what engine(s) they wish to use and
\   for which variant(s). All computer account owners should also make sure
\   their finger notes contain the required info (if you, the owner of a
\   computer account, do not have a fics handle, please say so in your notes).
\   Computer accounts from which we have not recieved a response by December
\   31st will be locked. The updated application can be sent either as a
\   message to Computers(*) or as an email to computers@freechess.org.
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Steven Edwards



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Bounced from FICS Reply to topic Reply with quote

If they wanted to clean up FICS, they would have done a better job with the same effort by booting every allegedly human account that had scored a victory over a program with twice the elo rating.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: The 100 millisecond tax Reply to topic Reply with quote

I've just noticed something with FICS/timeseal on Linux/xboard: the program's per move search elapsed time is set to 100 ms (1/10 second) even for very small true search times. Symbolic's logs use a millisecond resolution timestamp on each output line and there are many times the program responds in under five ms.

Has this "feature" always been there?
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