The only act that has ever been 100% original was when Eve took the apple from the tree. From then on all is derivative.
Of course, some things are more "derivative" than others.
Fern
Eve and the Apple
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Laskos
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Re: Eve and the Apple
We should have some nuances, I think the open scientific research in universities or similar institutions, with rated journals, rated papers, peer-reviewing, openess, competitivity, accountability, etc. (I think I miss the most important, rewards from businesses or state for good theoretical works per se, without the need of marketing etc.) is the way in CC. What you see here are some folks who want to do it quickly (often dubious works), and other folks who want all to stay 20 years inventing the wheel like they did (a fact which does not preclude many of them of having dubious works too from scientific point of view).fern wrote:The only act that has ever been 100% original was when Eve took the apple from the tree. From then on all is derivative.
Of course, some things are more "derivative" than others.
Fern
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Re: Eve and the Apple
Obviously the right thing is the middle way, where you pick up what has been done before, but in order to do something better. Just copies are not legitimate, but to pretend perennial reinvention is preposterous. Chess programming is part science, part technology and part art. Both the first and second aspects can be and must be used to get new advances.
The code writing I guess is the artistic side of it and should be considered private.
Fern
The code writing I guess is the artistic side of it and should be considered private.
Fern
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Re: Eve and the Apple
It was not the apple on the tree but the pair on the ground that caused the trouble in the garden.fern wrote:The only act that has ever been 100% original was when Eve took the apple from the tree. From then on all is derivative.
Of course, some things are more "derivative" than others.
Fern
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Re: Eve and the Apple
....and the Lord said, "Be fruitful and multiply and eat one another."
The Real Creator thinks quite differently than any semitic invention.
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PS Let's all eat like the birdies eat
Snakes, bugs, geckos and ants.
The Real Creator thinks quite differently than any semitic invention.
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PS Let's all eat like the birdies eat
Snakes, bugs, geckos and ants.
A New Way Comes Upon Earth.
God is an infinitely variable Constant.
Man marks his ground with ideologies.
Galaxies are the dreidels of God.
War is a punishment for implacability.
Peace flows from forgiveness of sins.
God is an infinitely variable Constant.
Man marks his ground with ideologies.
Galaxies are the dreidels of God.
War is a punishment for implacability.
Peace flows from forgiveness of sins.
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Re: Eve and the Apple
hahahah, certainly so.
God called me by phone today and said you are right..
Uncle Fern
God called me by phone today and said you are right..
Uncle Fern
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Re: Eve and the Apple
Now, you are starting to understand.fern wrote:Obviously the right thing is the middle way, where you pick up what has been done before, but in order to do something better. Just copies are not legitimate, but to pretend perennial reinvention is preposterous. Chess programming is part science, part technology and part art. Both the first and second aspects can be and must be used to get new advances.
The code writing I guess is the artistic side of it and should be considered private.
Fern
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Re: Eve and the Apple
My dear friend, I have understood this from the beginning, but perhaps I am not always clear in my statements. Do not forget that English is NOT my native language, as it should be notorious from my poor writing.
My best
Fern.
My best
Fern.
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CRoberson
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Re: Eve and the Apple
Good point. Many forget that much of language understanding comes from reading nonverbal clues. Certainly, makes writing difficult even with the primary language! So, a second or third is tough.fern wrote:My dear friend, I have understood this from the beginning, but perhaps I am not always clear in my statements. Do not forget that English is NOT my native language, as it should be notorious from my poor writing.
My best
Fern.