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Ed Schroder



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: What about...... a programmers code? Reply to topic Reply with quote

What about...... a programmers code?

DRAFT (to be worked on)

I hereby declare that the origin of my program:

a) is an original work
b) is a derivative from xxxxx

I hereby solemnly promise:

1. Not to copy the work of other programmers without their express permission.

2. Not to RE the work of other programmers without their express permission.

3. When I use an idea I will mention the source in the README file.

Signature

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Maintain a web-page of those who signed. I offer my space and time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: What about...... a programmers code? Reply to topic Reply with quote

Rebel wrote:
What about...... a programmers code?

DRAFT (to be worked on)

I hereby declare that the origin of my program:

a) is an original work
b) is a derivative from xxxxx

I hereby solemnly promise:

1. Not to copy the work of other programmers without their express permission.

2. Not to RE the work of other programmers without their express permission.

3. When I use an idea I will mention the source in the README file.

Signature

----------------

Maintain a web-page of those who signed. I offer my space and time.


Perhaps a good idea, but the ratio of honest to dishonest programmers would probably equate fairly closely to the ratio of any other group of professionals in society, so it's highly unlikely stop the problem.
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Adam Hair



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: What about...... a programmers code? Reply to topic Reply with quote

Rebel wrote:
What about...... a programmers code?

DRAFT (to be worked on)

I hereby declare that the origin of my program:

a) is an original work
b) is a derivative from xxxxx

I hereby solemnly promise:

1. Not to copy the work of other programmers without their express permission.

2. Not to RE the work of other programmers without their express permission.

3. When I use an idea I will mention the source in the README file.

Signature

----------------

Maintain a web-page of those who signed. I offer my space and time.


I predict this will be ignored.

But it should not be. This is exactly the code of ethics that should be observed by all.
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Miguel A. Ballicora



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: What about...... a programmers code? Reply to topic Reply with quote

Rebel wrote:
What about...... a programmers code?

DRAFT (to be worked on)

I hereby declare that the origin of my program:

a) is an original work
b) is a derivative from xxxxx

I hereby solemnly promise:

1. Not to copy the work of other programmers without their express permission.

2. Not to RE the work of other programmers without their express permission.

3. When I use an idea I will mention the source in the README file.

Signature

----------------

Maintain a web-page of those who signed. I offer my space and time.


Underscore is added.

3. When I use an idea from other people I will mention the source in the README file unless they are widely recognized, standard, and present in the chess programming wiki ( Note: to avoid listing zobrist, alpha beta etc.)

Miguel
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: What about...... a programmers code? Reply to topic Reply with quote

Rebel wrote:
What about...... a programmers code?

DRAFT (to be worked on)

I hereby declare that the origin of my program:

a) is an original work
b) is a derivative from xxxxx

I hereby solemnly promise:

1. Not to copy the work of other programmers without their express permission.

2. Not to RE the work of other programmers without their express permission.

3. When I use an idea I will mention the source in the README file.

Signature

----------------

Maintain a web-page of those who signed. I offer my space and time.


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Ed Schroder



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: What about...... a programmers code? Reply to topic Reply with quote

michiguel wrote:
Rebel wrote:
What about...... a programmers code?

DRAFT (to be worked on)

I hereby declare that the origin of my program:

a) is an original work
b) is a derivative from xxxxx

I hereby solemnly promise:

1. Not to copy the work of other programmers without their express permission.

2. Not to RE the work of other programmers without their express permission.

3. When I use an idea I will mention the source in the README file.

Signature

----------------

Maintain a web-page of those who signed. I offer my space and time.


Underscore is added.

3. When I use an idea from other people I will mention the source in the README file unless they are widely recognized, standard, and present in the chess programming wiki ( Note: to avoid listing zobrist, alpha beta etc.)

Miguel

Good one.

I will make a page tomorrow and do a group mail.

Further comments welcome.
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Vincent Lejeune



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: What about...... a programmers code? Reply to topic Reply with quote

michiguel wrote:
Rebel wrote:
What about...... a programmers code?

DRAFT (to be worked on)

I hereby declare that the origin of my program:

a) is an original work
b) is a derivative from xxxxx

I hereby solemnly promise:

1. Not to copy the work of other programmers without their express permission.

2. Not to RE the work of other programmers without their express permission.

3. When I use an idea I will mention the source in the README file.

Signature

----------------

Maintain a web-page of those who signed. I offer my space and time.


Underscore is added.

3. When I use an idea from other people I will mention the source in the README file unless they are widely recognized, standard, and present in the chess programming wiki ( Note: to avoid listing zobrist, alpha beta etc.)

Miguel


More:
1) I copied idea from ...
2) I copied code from ...
Both can be filled.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: What about...... a programmers code? Reply to topic Reply with quote

Isn't the programmer declaring that it is an original work, if he didn't mention sources in whatever copyright he used? Why should a programmer make such a solemn promise like witnesses in court room do? Well the defendants life depend on a testimony in court rooms. Most politicians screw us even though they make similar promises. The only "benefit" I see with the approach is to embarass him, "but you said it is pure", citing a source of claim. I don't see a reason to use such extreme measures when a human life is not involved Smile (Doctors, captial punishment come to mind)
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Miguel A. Ballicora



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: What about...... a programmers code? Reply to topic Reply with quote

Daniel Shawul wrote:
Isn't the programmer declaring that it is an original work, if he didn't mention sources in whatever copyright he used? Why should a programmer make such a solemn promise like witnesses in court room do? Well the defendants life depend on a testimony in court rooms. Most politicians screw us even though they make similar promises. The only "benefit" I see with the approach is to embarass him, "but you said it is pure", citing a source of claim. I don't see a reason to use such extreme measures when a human life is not involved Smile (Doctors, captial punishment come to mind)


It is a Honor's Code, like in many other places. It is not for the people who read the signatures, it is more for the people who pledge it.

Miguel
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:11 am    Post subject: Re: What about...... a programmers code? Reply to topic Reply with quote

Good idea, Ed! Very Happy

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