ologist wrote:All I have to say is that when I go to a chess engine website I am interested in what they have to say about the engine and downloading. I am not looking to be sucked into an immersive environment that is rich in multimedia and CSS.
Is this site an immersive environment that is rich in multimedia and CSS? No and neither are the BBC or CNN websites. Show me any serious site in the top 100,000 ranked sites that uses frames.
If you are only interested in chess engines, many are interested in chess news, chess forums and chess products. A site that is difficult to navigate will drive away surfers and customers.
By the way you don't need the technical skills to design a good website. The work is already done for you, there are free/cheap solutions available.
The topic is why chess web sites are not standards based. Your choice of "standards based" websites is rather unfortunate. Here are the results of checking how well those three sites actually conform to standards (using http://validator.w3.org)
CNN: http://www.cnn.com/
This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!
Failed validation, 49 errors
BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/
This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!
Failed validation, 37 errors
That's a total of 86 standards breaking errors for these two "standards based" sites. Out of the three you mention, only the Mozilla site contains standards based HTML, but so does the following chess site, so what's the big deal?
Rybka forum: http://rybkaforum.net
This Page Is Valid HTML 4.01 Strict!
Passed validation
Not valid html? At least they use css stylesheets have some database features and avoid the very ugly frames. I thought I had seen the Hiarcs guy around, the HIARCS website looks like a sample website that came with Frontpage 4.0 (Frontpage was long discontinued for those of you not in the know). Gamers would like to know why something as advanced as Hiarcs still uses the Frontpage 4.0 website? (Yes people do note these things)
nuff wrote:Not valid html? At least they use css stylesheets have some database features and avoid the very ugly frames. I thought I had seen the Hiarcs guy around, the HIARCS website looks like a sample website that came with Frontpage 4.0 (Frontpage was long discontinued for those of you not in the know). Gamers would like to know why something as advanced as Hiarcs still uses the Frontpage 4.0 website? (Yes people do note these things)
I don't really regard the style or format of a website as important.
What matters to me as a user is that I can easily navigate my way around and obtain the information or downloads that I want.
John Woodruff
A question for you. You don't post here very often but I have notice that evey time you do post you have something nasty to say about someone or something. You start a big rucuss here a week or so ago and then carried it over to another site where smugly you bragged about it.
If all you want to do is start arguments they why don't you just stay home.
Bill
Bill Rogers wrote:John Woodruff
A question for you. You don't post here very often but I have notice that evey time you do post you have something nasty to say about someone or something. You start a big rucuss here a week or so ago and then carried it over to another site where smugly you bragged about it.
If all you want to do is start arguments they why don't you just stay home.
Bill
Good question William H Rogers particularly after the moderator has just edited out Terry McCracken's insults. Perhaps you can join in the discussion on Terry McCracken in CTF below? Is it a case of "different strokes for different folks" with Terry McCracken?
nuff wrote:Good question William H Rogers particularly after the moderator has just edited out Terry McCracken's insults. Perhaps you can join in the discussion on Terry McCracken in CTF below? Is it a case of "different strokes for different folks" with Terry McCracken?
Some of your insults and provocations have also been edited out.
When your posts are on topic regarding computer chess, they are welcome.
Don't give me cause to think you're just trolling as at least one of my fellow mods thinks.
