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Martin Wyngaarden



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:46 am    Post subject: Re: Goodbye Talkchess Reply to topic Reply with quote

Already registered and posting. Though I haven't been a member here long, I've stalked the forums for a long time and I saw this coming quite a while ago... glad to see you spearhead this. Thanks.
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Thomas Mayer



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: Goodbye Talkchess Reply to topic Reply with quote

BTO7 wrote:
Great move ...we will all support you there. This is crazy around here....obviously biased. We play chess....we love engines ...dont need the hand cuffs on for sure. Short time i have been here it looks to me Banks is the underlying reason too.

Catch you there
BT


That looks great, all the trolls are leaving... well, some collateral damage, but time will heal wounds... Wink

Greets, Thomas
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Robert Hyatt



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: Goodbye Talkchess Reply to topic Reply with quote

Thomas Mayer wrote:
BTO7 wrote:
Great move ...we will all support you there. This is crazy around here....obviously biased. We play chess....we love engines ...dont need the hand cuffs on for sure. Short time i have been here it looks to me Banks is the underlying reason too.

Catch you there
BT


That looks great, all the trolls are leaving... well, some collateral damage, but time will heal wounds... Wink

Greets, Thomas


There are more than "trolls" leaving. But I suppose you won't understand that at all...
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Thomas Mayer



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:06 am    Post subject: Re: Goodbye Talkchess Reply to topic Reply with quote

bob wrote:
Thomas Mayer wrote:
BTO7 wrote:
Great move ...we will all support you there. This is crazy around here....obviously biased. We play chess....we love engines ...dont need the hand cuffs on for sure. Short time i have been here it looks to me Banks is the underlying reason too.

Catch you there
BT


That looks great, all the trolls are leaving... well, some collateral damage, but time will heal wounds... Wink

Greets, Thomas


There are more than "trolls" leaving. But I suppose you won't understand that at all...


Well, you didn't get me, Bob. The others are the collateral damage.
I mean if Rolf turns up he might follow as well. Wink

Greets, Thomas
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Albert Silver



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:09 am    Post subject: Re: Goodbye Talkchess Reply to topic Reply with quote

zamar wrote:
I hate cloning and have been personally convinced so far that Ippolit is a clone of Rybka, but as a writer of open source program and supporter of the right to free speech


No offense, but I think your arguments are odd. The announcement I read asked to be less lenient about posting announcements in the General Topics subforum, essentially promoting the clones, and to move them to the CEO.

If you think they are clones of Rybka, and thus that a professional colleague's work is being distributed via these forums, how do you reconcile allowing them? If you had stated you were not convinced they were clones, I might have understood, but instead you are professing that his work should be stolen and disseminated here in the name of free speech??
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Zach Wegner



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:16 am    Post subject: Re: Goodbye Talkchess Reply to topic Reply with quote

Albert Silver wrote:
zamar wrote:
I hate cloning and have been personally convinced so far that Ippolit is a clone of Rybka, but as a writer of open source program and supporter of the right to free speech


No offense, but I think your arguments are odd. The announcement I read asked to be less lenient about posting announcements in the General Topics subforum, essentially promoting the clones, and to move them to the CEO.

If you think they are clones of Rybka, and thus that a professional colleague's work is being distributed via these forums, how do you reconcile allowing them? If you had stated you were not convinced they were clones, I might have understood, but instead you are professing that his work should be stolen and disseminated here in the name of free speech??


Reread this part:

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The moderation team was informed yesterday by the site administrator, Sam Hull, that the site owners, Your Move Chess & Games/ICD, want the moderation team to aggressively remove links and any posts which could be seen as "encouragement to acquire software of questionable legitimacy". "Software of questionable legitimacy" obviously refers to the engines derived from the source code known as I--- (I censor myself here to avoid being banned to the CEO forum by Graham), and the request was justified by the various commercial partnerships which YMC&G/ICD maintains.


This is obviously against the charter.
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Timothy J. Frohlick



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:18 am    Post subject: Re: Goodbye Talkchess Reply to topic Reply with quote

Mr. Bernstein,

ICD/YourMove owns Talkchess.com and controls the content therein. The only reason that I can post crap is that the owners of this site/company have known me for a long time. They know me to be a benign fellow with no malicious intent.

The owners of Talkchess are in the entertainment business. The main reason for these blog sites is to encourage heated debates about computer chess and the larger world. If they determine that a post might affect sales then they are free to remove it. What else would you expect from legitimate sales people?

Tj, living in the real world
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Peter C



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:20 am    Post subject: Re: Goodbye Talkchess Reply to topic Reply with quote

This was needed a loooong time ago.... Rolling Eyes

Ooh, and it uses phpBB3.

Anyway, I signed up as 'Peter C' there too.

I think I'll still hang around Talkchess for a bit to see the end. This could get epic. I guess. Razz

Congrats on your decision Jeremy,
Peter
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Pablo Ignacio Restrepo



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:22 am    Post subject: Re: Goodbye Talkchess Reply to topic Reply with quote

Jun2 9, 2010

Good evening Thomas Mayer (Thomas Mayer).


How are you Sir?!! ?

What a good days were these when the beautiful “Comp Quark” used to be in main room from playchess.com. I can remember the hundreds of games the machine won to me.

If God get me the chance and you the opportunities, what a nice being to play against comp quark in main room.

The Main room with some chess engines into it, and then, many persons playing for free against commercial and not commercial engines was a very good experience...

Because of I have been very concentrated in man versus machines; I have not understood the meaning of this post. Today I put in the morning a game in played against Houdini, my first game, my first victory. Even tough the Houdini did not have any time, and the watch appear TIEMPO in my favor a victories on time, the machine to continue playing without time and with out acceptation of it’s loose, since the move 165 until the last move 195 more or less, when the machine claimed a draw by repetition. I claimed that THIS IS A CHESS COMPUTER TIME CHEATER, but the post was eraser and my game … I don’t understood the reason, the same that all these posts, just I played on a desk the game, and could discover that Houdini is a cheater. I won the game… now some hours after were removed my post I don’t understand yet why it was removed…

Not hate is a VIP attitude on life. Times fly, and feel hate each other is one of the biggest waste of time ever been ... What a stupid arrogance are on Earth. I would like hear in this forum, just feels everybody love themselves, help ourselves, and never never hate each other.

Best regards,

Father playches.com user
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Arturo Ochoa



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:26 am    Post subject: Re: Goodbye Talkchess Reply to topic Reply with quote

Father wrote:
Jun2 9, 2010

Good evening Thomas Mayer (Thomas Mayer).


How are you Sir?!! ?

What a good days were these when the beautiful “Comp Quark” used to be in main room from playchess.com. I can remember the hundreds of games the machine won to me.

If God get me the chance and you the opportunities, what a nice being to play against comp quark in main room.

The Main room with some chess engines into it, and then, many persons playing for free against commercial and not commercial engines was a very good experience...

Because of I have been very concentrated in man versus machines; I have not understood the meaning of this post. Today I put in the morning a game in played against Houdini, my first game, my first victory. Even tough the Houdini did not have any time, and the watch appear TIEMPO in my favor a victories on time, the machine to continue playing without time and with out acceptation of it’s loose, since the move 165 until the last move 195 more or less, when the machine claimed a draw by repetition. I claimed that THIS IS A CHESS COMPUTER TIME CHEATER, but the post was eraser and my game … I don’t understood the reason, the same that all these posts, just I played on a desk the game, and could discover that Houdini is a cheater. I won the game… now some hours after were removed my post I don’t understand yet why it was removed…

Not hate is a VIP attitude on life. Times fly, and feel hate each other is one of the biggest waste of time ever been ... What a stupid arrogance are on Earth. I would like hear in this forum, just feels everybody love themselves, help ourselves, and never never hate each other.

Best regards,

Father playches.com user


Oh, my god... Confused Rolling Eyes
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