I am finished with talkchess.com. The site administration and my co-moderator Graham Banks have made it impossible for me to continue as a moderator, and in a more extended sense, as a member of this community. Before I explain my reasons for leaving: I am starting a new, free, uncensored, (though unconditionally non-warez) computer chess site -- OpenChess -- which can be found at http://www.open-chess.org/ -- effective immediately. I hope that, with time, it will become a valuable alternative to talkchess.com, but without commercial influence over content, and without biased moderation or censorship of discussions in progress. I encourage anyone with an interest in computer chess, everyone who desires a forum where free, uncensored, tolerant discourse is possible, engine authors as well as testers and end-users, to join. There's not much there yet, but that's just a matter of time and your participation. As we populate and organize OpenChess, your suggestions are welcome.
That's a nice forum you have set up, Jeremy. I'm sure it will get more popular over time. I have registered it there.
It's a good idea to create a forum where commercial and money-minded businesses don't have control over anything.
Open Chess. Great!
"Your Move, ICD" controls Talkchess. This has been going on forever, there's always been a shop technique to influence the forums..Rybka forum has commercial engine.
Actually that is incorrect. When Steve owned ICD chess, and Tim was our sysadmin, things went well. Absolutely zero interference.
I'm off to check out the new forum as anything has to be better than the current mess left here. Congrats, I never thought a couple of people could destroy CCC this effectively. Once again, I was wrong.
Well, i been around for some time. Even to a point of selling dedicated computers for ICD. I even did some tourny's while living in the state of FL. I always like the open dialog that were allowed here that seems free of censoring. Its sad to see where things are going. If the same was done to Rybka during its early development I guess there would be no Rybka 4 today. I want to see the development of chess in a whole and recent events has helped developers in a whole. When do you give back to those that pioneered this age of programs. I guess its all coming down to commercialization. When new forum opens please send me the link or post here. Hopefully it is not deleted. Its all about the Money !!! and nothing to do with the development of Computer Chess.
bob wrote:I'm off to check out the new forum as anything has to be better than the current mess left here.
Open Chess is a nice forum created by him, Bob, and it is nice to see many people joining up.
I hope you will become an active member there.
waiting on the registration confirmation, then that's where I will post from here on...
I've had more than enough of the moderation nonsense here. Let Graham and Sam enjoy moderating each other when this finally falls apart... This started going to hell in a handbasket when Steve decided to retire... Really enjoyed working with him for years.
Great move ...we will all support you there. This is crazy around here....obviously biased. We play chess....we love engines ...dont need the hand cuffs on for sure. Short time i have been here it looks to me Banks is the underlying reason too.
Already registered and posting. Though I haven't been a member here long, I've stalked the forums for a long time and I saw this coming quite a while ago... glad to see you spearhead this. Thanks.
BTO7 wrote:Great move ...we will all support you there. This is crazy around here....obviously biased. We play chess....we love engines ...dont need the hand cuffs on for sure. Short time i have been here it looks to me Banks is the underlying reason too.
Catch you there
BT
That looks great, all the trolls are leaving... well, some collateral damage, but time will heal wounds...
BTO7 wrote:Great move ...we will all support you there. This is crazy around here....obviously biased. We play chess....we love engines ...dont need the hand cuffs on for sure. Short time i have been here it looks to me Banks is the underlying reason too.
Catch you there
BT
That looks great, all the trolls are leaving... well, some collateral damage, but time will heal wounds...
Greets, Thomas
There are more than "trolls" leaving. But I suppose you won't understand that at all...
BTO7 wrote:Great move ...we will all support you there. This is crazy around here....obviously biased. We play chess....we love engines ...dont need the hand cuffs on for sure. Short time i have been here it looks to me Banks is the underlying reason too.
Catch you there
BT
That looks great, all the trolls are leaving... well, some collateral damage, but time will heal wounds...
Greets, Thomas
There are more than "trolls" leaving. But I suppose you won't understand that at all...
Well, you didn't get me, Bob. The others are the collateral damage.
I mean if Rolf turns up he might follow as well.
zamar wrote:I hate cloning and have been personally convinced so far that Ippolit is a clone of Rybka, but as a writer of open source program and supporter of the right to free speech
No offense, but I think your arguments are odd. The announcement I read asked to be less lenient about posting announcements in the General Topics subforum, essentially promoting the clones, and to move them to the CEO.
If you think they are clones of Rybka, and thus that a professional colleague's work is being distributed via these forums, how do you reconcile allowing them? If you had stated you were not convinced they were clones, I might have understood, but instead you are professing that his work should be stolen and disseminated here in the name of free speech??
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."
