Rybka Is About To Be Eclipsed!

[Sean Evans]

Vas better start copying and pasting some Shredder and Hiarcs into his Rybka program quick

http://www.inwoba.de/bayeselo.html

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IPON - BayesElo 0056 result:

List of best single engines, one engine per Author:

     Name                      Elo    +    -   games scor oppo.  draws
 
   1 Houdini 1.5a             3013   11   11  3900   80%  2772   25% 
   2 Deep Rybka 4             2955   10   10  4700   75%  2763   32% 
     Komodo 2.03 DC SSE42     2955   13   12  2700   74%  2772   29% 
   4 Critter 1.2 SSE42        2952   13   13  2500   75%  2769   34% 
   5 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA       2942   12   12  2800   73%  2775   34% 
   6 Naum 4.2                 2825    8    8  6100   59%  2760   40% 
   7 Deep Shredder 12         2800    8    8  7200   57%  2754   38% 
   8 Gull 1.2                 2795   11   11  3100   51%  2785   36% 
   9 Deep Sjeng c't 2010 32b  2788    9    9  4100   51%  2784   39% 
  10 Spike 1.4 32b            2782   11   10  3200   49%  2786   39% 
  11 Deep Fritz 12 32b        2779    8    8  6100   53%  2760   38% 
  12 Protector 1.4.0 x64      2762   10   10  3300   48%  2780   38% 
  13 Hannibal 1.1             2759   12   11  2600   47%  2783   40% 
  14 spark-1.0 SSE42          2757    9   10  3800   46%  2785   40% 
  15 HIARCS 13.2 MP 32b       2755   10   10  3600   46%  2782   38% 
  16 Deep Junior 12.5         2731   11   11  2900   42%  2787   35% 
  17 Zappa Mexico II          2716    7    7  8500   47%  2741   38% 
  18 Deep Onno 1-2-70         2685    9    9  5100   38%  2771   37% 
  19 Strelka 2.0 B            2674   11   11  3200   34%  2786   34% 
  20 Umko 1.2 SSE42           2666   12   12  2400   33%  2787   37% 
  21 Loop 13.6/2007           2620    8    8  7000   32%  2750   34% 
  22 Jonny 4.00 32b           2616   10   10  4300   28%  2782   29% 
  23 Crafty 23.3 JA           2598   10   10  4200   26%  2779   28%

[LaurenceChen]

Nay... The list is only for a 1-CPU engine... it is meaningless because Komodo single CPU has no chance against a SMP version of Rybka, Critter or Stockfish...
Until a SMP version is released... jumping the gun at this time is too premature.

[Uri Blass]

Nay... The list is only for a 1-CPU engine... it is meaningless because Komodo single CPU has no chance against a SMP version of Rybka, Critter or Stockfish...
Until a SMP version is released... jumping the gun at this time is too premature.

This is simply wrong.
Komodo 1 cpu has clearly chances against a smp version of stockfish and it is even ranked higher than part of the smp versions of stockfish in another list.

http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_40%2 ... liste.html

41 Komodo 2.03 x64 3120 15 15 1178 56.2% 3077 43.5%
42 Stockfish 1.6 x64 4CPU 3116 10 10 2814 65.5% 3005 41.6%

Of course Stockfish improved since version 1.6 but Komodo also can improve so your conclusion is wrong and here is your conclusion:

"Until a SMP version is released... jumping the gun at this time is too premature. " is simply wrong."

Note also that komodo is only one engine in the list and houdini or Critter support more than one cpu.

[LaurenceChen]

Nay... The list is only for a 1-CPU engine... it is meaningless because Komodo single CPU has no chance against a SMP version of Rybka, Critter or Stockfish...
Until a SMP version is released... jumping the gun at this time is too premature.

This is simply wrong.
Komodo 1 cpu has clearly chances against a smp version of stockfish and it is even ranked higher than part of the smp versions of stockfish in another list.

http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_40%2 ... liste.html

41 Komodo 2.03 x64 3120 15 15 1178 56.2% 3077 43.5%
42 Stockfish 1.6 x64 4CPU 3116 10 10 2814 65.5% 3005 41.6%

Of course Stockfish improved since version 1.6 but Komodo also can improve so your conclusion is wrong and here is your conclusion:

"Until a SMP version is released... jumping the gun at this time is too premature. " is simply wrong."

Note also that komodo is only one engine in the list and houdini or Critter support more than one cpu.

Uri, the lastest version of Stockfish is 2.1.1... would like to know what are the chance of Komodo against the latest versions of Critter or Stockfish running on a Quad?
So I am not wrong? Until there is a SMP version... one cannot say that Komodo is better... translating a program from a single CPU to a SMP can be tricky... unless there is some copying of another SMP engine... would that be allowed?

[Uri Blass]

Nay... The list is only for a 1-CPU engine... it is meaningless because Komodo single CPU has no chance against a SMP version of Rybka, Critter or Stockfish...
Until a SMP version is released... jumping the gun at this time is too premature.

This is simply wrong.
Komodo 1 cpu has clearly chances against a smp version of stockfish and it is even ranked higher than part of the smp versions of stockfish in another list.

http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_40%2 ... liste.html

41 Komodo 2.03 x64 3120 15 15 1178 56.2% 3077 43.5%
42 Stockfish 1.6 x64 4CPU 3116 10 10 2814 65.5% 3005 41.6%

Of course Stockfish improved since version 1.6 but Komodo also can improve so your conclusion is wrong and here is your conclusion:

"Until a SMP version is released... jumping the gun at this time is too premature. " is simply wrong."

Note also that komodo is only one engine in the list and houdini or Critter support more than one cpu.

Uri, the lastest version of Stockfish is 2.1.1... would like to know what are the chance of Komodo against the latest versions of Critter or Stockfish running on a Quad?
So I am not wrong? Until there is a SMP version... one cannot say that Komodo is better... translating a program from a single CPU to a SMP can be tricky... unless there is some copying of another SMP engine... would that be allowed?

My point is that you cannot get the conclusion that until there is a SMP version once cannot say that Komodo is better..

Komodo of 2011 1 cpu is clearly better than old stockfish 4 cpu and
it is possible that new komodo of 2012 1 cpu is going to be better than new stockfish 4 cpu even if komodo does not come with a SMP version.

Uri

[AdminX]

it is meaningless because Komodo single CPU has no chance against a SMP version of Rybka, Critter or Stockfish

So your saying that if a match of lets say 100 games were played with Komodo 2.03 single cpu versus Rybka 4.1, Stockfish 2.1.1, or Critter 1.2 using 4 cores that Komodo could not win 1 game. Sorry but I think you are wrong here. Clearly there is a chance to win a game, chances are lower to win the match however there still is a chance.