Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championship –

[velmarin]

We suppose that then the game will always be against the old champion.
The winning version of the previous year, not a remodeled version.
It seems a retrograde idea.

[mjlef]

I am sure David Levy is open for ideas.

This one has some good points and some bad:

First, play the World Chess Software Championship (where all entries complete on identical hardware). The winning X entries qualify for the World Computer Chess Championship which can use whatever hardware they want.

Good points: the WCSC is typically at a faster time control and happens on a weekend normally, reducing hotel expenses. And makes things a bit more like the Human Championship where they need to qualify from earlier matches. If WCSC was somehow done on the internet, it could be done pretty cheaply since only the qualifying entries need to travel.

The bad: it rules out special hardware (like Deep Blue)
It shortens the event. A nice things about these events is the exchange of ideas. People who travel from far away would not know how long to book the travel.

[Dirt]

http://en.chessbase.com/post/computer-c ... new-format

Another reason programs do not want to play is many programs are derivatives and know they will be caught like Rybka was caught cheating!

Speaking of derivatives is Andscacs participating in the tourney? If not, why not?!

Sean

Again just your imagination.

Your comment makes no sense to me. Mind you, neither did the comment you responded to, but that's pretty normal for him.

I don't expect Andscacs to enter, but not because of any wrongdoing.

[jdart]

I know it's traditional for these to be on-premise events but in the modern world there are so many ways to connect people online. Were I to enter, I couldn't take big hardware to Europe, most likely, and would be connecting to something remote anyway. (I remember trying to bring 200 lbs of high-end computer equipment into Germany once, and the customs guy just looked at it and said "We take this." It took several days to get it back). So why do I have to take my body there?

--Jon

[lucasart]

I am sure David Levy is open for ideas.

Is that a joke, or are you serious ?

He is an old donkey. No one can change his mind. He still thinks computer tournaments should be manually operated, today, in 2017. He obviously understands nothing about statistics either, give the "all play all" format of the tournament. Doesn't want to make it a fair competition, by forcing all engines to use the same hardware, same book, same TB.

Then he doesn't understand why no one joins his "world championship"…

[karger]

Seems like this tournament is not very well thought anymore and really is just not relevant because there are so many nearly equal engines available that are not going to be in it.

[Ferdy]

I am sure David Levy is open for ideas.

Is that a joke, or are you serious ?

He is an old donkey. No one can change his mind. He still thinks computer tournaments should be manually operated, today, in 2017. He obviously understands nothing about statistics either, give the "all play all" format of the tournament. Doesn't want to make it a fair competition, by forcing all engines to use the same hardware, same book, same TB.

Then he doesn't understand why no one joins his "world championship"…

This new donkey is abusing the old donkey after learning the tricks of the old donkey .

[hgm]

Doesn't want to make it a fair competition, by forcing all engines to use the same hardware, same book, same TB.

You forget to mention evaluation. It is also highly unfair that some participants have better evaluation then others. They really should be forced to use the same DLL for evaluation, to make for a fair tournament.

[Uri Blass]

Doesn't want to make it a fair competition, by forcing all engines to use the same hardware, same book, same TB.

You forget to mention evaluation. It is also highly unfair that some participants have better evaluation then others. They really should be forced to use the same DLL for evaluation, to make for a fair tournament.

Why stop at evaluation?
It is unfair that some programs are better for different reasons.
They should all use exactly the same software so we have a fair competition.

Hopefully all get 50% and every participant wins the world championship and is happy.

[Henk]

Or some programmers having more talent than others. Or some people even have no money to buy a computer.

It would be best only to participate on bingo tournaments where all participants have the same chance of winning.