Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championship –

[Rebel]

Then he doesn't understand why no one joins his "world championship"…

Well, adding a zero to the 2,000 Euro will certainly help, adding 2 will cause an overloaded inbox.

[Ras]

Maybe there's another problem with the travel in general. International air travel in particular has become nasty due to security lockdowns. It is only getting worse over time, see the current ideas to ban laptops (and have them stolen from or damaged in checked baggage).

The event is located in the Netherlands. This means that getting things like visa permits in place is easiest for participants from the Schengen Area (they don't need any), more difficult from other Western countries and a lot of hassle for the rest of the world.

While this is not the fault of the ICGA, the result still is that participants will experience discrimination by country.

The whole event in itself is totally out of touch with 2017. We have things like video meetings. VR and telemetric surgery are right around the corner - and people have to travel for entering chess moves into a computer? This is totally backwards. The participants could just submit their engines and maybe join via Skype.

An engine tournament is not a human tournament, and mimicking human championships even more via the 2018 format makes even less sense.

In the same way, modern engine contests are not via a small number of games. In fact, this doesn't even make sense for humans, but that's because of human limitations engines don't have. Humans cannot play some thousand games a day or so.

That the WCCC still is using such small numbers makes the event even more irrelevant. The outcome is more or less like taking the strongest engines and throwing dice.

The only actual value I can see is for commercial engines. A by and large meaningless title still can be used for marketing.

[Sean Evans]

http://en.chessbase.com/post/computer-c ... new-format

Another reason programs do not want to play is many programs are derivatives and know they will be caught like Rybka was caught cheating!

Speaking of derivatives is Andscacs participating in the tourney? If not, why not?!

Sean

Again just your imagination.

Then enter the program!

[cdani]

Then enter the program!

Why? I never participate in any tournament, other than when others run Andscacs on them, as I prefer to use the time to make it stronger, or play chess, or whatever. Anyone has his preferences on how to use their own time.
This does not mean that I can change of idea at any moment, of course.

[Henk]

Only engines are allowed to participate that are qualified as being 'original'. That's an asset. So now we know that at least Komodo, Shredder, Hiarcs and Jonny are or were 'original' engines at the time they participated.

[Henk]

Then enter the program!

Why? I never participate in any tournament, other than when others run Andscacs on them, as I prefer to use the time to make it stronger, or play chess, or whatever. Anyone has his preferences on how to use their own time.
This does not mean that I can change of idea at any moment, of course.

We expect Andscacs to be world champion within a few years. Maybe you could use this tournament now as a training to get used to it so participating won't be something new in the future when Andscacs is a really serious candidate for the title.

[cdani]

We expect Andscacs to be world champion within a few years. Maybe you could use this tournament now as a training to get used to it so participating won't be something new in the future when Andscacs is a really serious candidate for the title.

Many times I don't know if you're being serious or joking or sharp...
Why not let this thread be what is meant to be?

[Graham Banks]

Speaking of derivatives is Andscacs participating in the tourney? If not, why not?!

Sean

This post needs to go as well.

[Harvey Williamson]

Speaking of derivatives is Andscacs participating in the tourney? If not, why not?!

Sean

This post needs to go as well.

Perhaps it should remain as a monument to Seans stupidity. He will not be troubling us again during this moderation term.

[MikeB]

Speaking of derivatives is Andscacs participating in the tourney? If not, why not?!

Sean

This post needs to go as well.

Perhaps it should remain as a monument to Seans stupidity. He will not be troubling us again during this moderation term.

+1 Amen!