mjlef wrote:For the 2017 World Computer Chess Championship we are changing the format, removing the entry fee, and offering an expenses budget to each of the contestants. Our aim for 2017 will be to attract the strongest participants. There will be only 4 contestants, each of whom will receive 1,000 Euro for their expenses from the ICGA.
Does this mean only 4 participants are accepted? or more can be accepted but they can only offer 1000 euros to each of 4 participants?
Regarding attracting the strongest participants, perhaps ICGA should just invite the Stockfish team.
The problem is that the Stockfish team shuns world championships out of principle, and that some of its current members have destoying ICGA for daring to organize such things high on their private agenda...
hgm wrote:The problem is that the Stockfish team shuns world championships out of principle, and that some of its current members have destoying ICGA for daring to organize such things high on their private agenda...
And how would you know about their private agendas? You hacked them?
The existence of SF may well be a "threat" to ICGA-type tournaments, but that is not SF's fault. Nor does it have to be anybody else's fault.
It seems the new set up destroys the last reason for its existence.
Henk wrote:That's a pity. In almost all sports we have doping control.
We should also have that with engines because it is so easy to dope them. Just take the binary, and crank up the 1-bits. Empirical studies have shown that already boosting the 1-bits to 1.1 (just by 10%) gives an unfair Elo advantage of around 20 points because stronger bits mean stronger moves.
Another unfair approach is chrome-plating the bits so that the bit-rot will be considerably reduced, compared to the unplated competitors. This method especially makes sense if you have to submit the engine before a tournament.
Let also Stockfish, Komodo and Houdini play or only the weaker engines.
But don't do something stupid like weaker engines + Komodo or weaker engines + Houdini.
It must be interesting and fair.
Let also Stockfish, Komodo and Houdini play or only the weaker engines.
But don't do something stupid like weaker engines + Komodo or weaker engines + Houdini.
It must be interesting and fair.
I am sure the ICGA would love to see the authors enter Stockfish.
Henk wrote:That's a pity. In almost all sports we have doping control.
We should also have that with engines because it is so easy to dope them. Just take the binary, and crank up the 1-bits. Empirical studies have shown that already boosting the 1-bits to 1.1 (just by 10%) gives an unfair Elo advantage of around 20 points because stronger bits mean stronger moves.
Another unfair approach is chrome-plating the bits so that the bit-rot will be considerably reduced, compared to the unplated competitors. This method especially makes sense if you have to submit the engine before a tournament.
I mean for instance the amount of Stockfish vapor they sniffed during cooking their engines. If some are high it will be a fishy tournament.