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beram
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Re: Stockfish and Fischer

Post by beram »

Also on my slower system Ryzen 1800 with 15threads and 8Gb Hash Stockfish finds Bg4!

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82: New game
r3r1k1/pp1q1p2/2p2npb/PPPp1bnp/3PpN2/2N1P1PP/1R1B1PBK/3Q1R2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish 020118 64 POPCNT:

19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Rf1-g1 a7-a6 24.Qf3-g3 Kg8-g7 25.Qg3-h4 Ra8-d8 26.Nc3-e2 Nf6-e4 27.Ne2-g3 Ne4xg3 28.Qh4xg3 Qd7-e6 29.Bd2-b4 Qe6-f6 30.Qg3-g2 
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 18/30   00:00:01  14795kN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.b5xc6 b7xc6 23.Qd1xf3 Ra8-b8 24.Rb2xb8 Re8xb8 25.Rf1-a1 Rb8-b3 26.Qf3-g2 Qd7-e6 27.a5-a6 Kg8-g7 28.Qg2-f1 Rb3-b2 29.Ra1-a2 Rb2xa2 30.Nc3xa2 Nf6-e4 31.Bd2-b4 
  =  (-0.10)   Depth: 19/30   00:00:01  18047kN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.b5xc6 b7xc6 23.Qd1xf3 Ra8-b8 24.Rb2xb8 Re8xb8 25.Rf1-a1 Rb8-b2 26.Ra1-a2 Rb2-b3 27.Qf3-g2 Qd7-e6 28.a5-a6 Nf6-e4 29.Nc3xe4 Bf5xe4 30.f2-f3 Be4-d3 31.Bd2-c1 Rb3-b1 
  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 20/30   00:00:01  19327kN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.b5xc6 b7xc6 23.Qd1xf3 Ra8-b8 24.Rb2xb8 Re8xb8 25.Rf1-a1 Qd7-e6 26.Qf3-g2 Rb8-b2 27.Ra1-a2 Rb2-b3 28.Ra2-a1 Kg8-g7 29.a5-a6 h5-h4 30.Ra1-a2 Rb3-b8 31.Qg2-f1 Nf6-h5 32.Ra2-a1 Rb8-b3 33.Ra1-a2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 21/30   00:00:01  20128kN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.b5xc6 b7xc6 23.Qd1xf3 Ra8-b8 24.Rb2xb8 Re8xb8 25.Rf1-a1 Qd7-e6 26.Qf3-g2 Rb8-b2 27.Ra1-a2 Rb2-b3 28.Ra2-a1 Kg8-g7 29.Ra1-a2 Kg7-g8 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 22/31   00:00:01  23998kN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.Bf3-g2 Bf4-c7 22.a5-a6 b7xa6 23.b5xc6 Qd7xc6 24.Nc3-e2 a6-a5 25.Rb2-a2 Qc6-b5 26.Ne2-c3 Qb5-c6 27.Nc3-e2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 23/33   00:00:02  28626kN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.b5xc6 b7xc6 23.Qd1xf3 Ra8-b8 24.Rb2xb8 Re8xb8 25.Rf1-a1 Qd7-e6 26.Qf3-g2 Rb8-b2 27.Ra1-a2 Rb2-b3 28.Ra2-a1 Kg8-g7 29.Ra1-a2 Kg7-g8 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 24/33   00:00:02  34124kN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Qf3-g2 a7-a6 24.Rf1-e1 h5-h4 25.Nc3-d1 Kg8-g7 26.Bd2-b4 Qd7-e6 27.Nd1-c3 Ra8-d8 28.Re1-g1 Nf6-e4 29.Nc3-b1 Re8-h8 30.Qg2-f3 f7-f6 31.Nb1-d2 Ne4xd2 32.Rb2xd2 Qe6-e4 33.Qf3-d1 
  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 25/37   00:00:04  59830kN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Qf3-g2 a7-a6 24.Nc3-a2 Re8-e6 25.Bd2-b4 Kg8-g7 26.Na2-c3 Ra8-h8 27.Rf1-e1 Bf5-e4 28.f2-f3 Be4-f5 29.Rb2-e2 Rh8-e8 30.Nc3-d1 h5-h4 31.Qg2-g5 Qd7-d8 32.Nd1-f2 Nf6-h5 33.Qg5xd8 Re8xd8 34.Re2-b2 Nh5-f6 
  =  (-0.11)   Depth: 26/36   00:00:04  69987kN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 
  =  (-0.04 --)   Depth: 27/38   00:00:05  91368kN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Qf3-g2 a7-a6 24.Nc3-a2 Kg8-g7 25.Na2-b4 h5-h4 26.Rf1-c1 Ra8-c8 27.Bd2-e1 Qd7-d8 28.Be1-d2 Nf6-e4 29.Bd2-e1 Re8-h8 30.Rb2-c2 Ne4-f6 31.Rc2-e2 Nf6-e4 32.Re2-c2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 27/38   00:00:06  95916kN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Qf3-g2 a7-a6 24.Nc3-a2 Kg8-g7 25.Na2-b4 h5-h4 26.Rf1-c1 Ra8-c8 27.Bd2-e1 Qd7-d8 28.Be1-d2 Nf6-e4 29.Bd2-e1 Re8-h8 30.Rb2-c2 Ne4-f6 31.Rc2-e2 Nf6-e4 32.Re2-c2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 28/27   00:00:07  117mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Qf3-g2 a7-a6 24.Nc3-a2 Kg8-g7 25.Na2-b4 h5-h4 26.Rf1-c1 Ra8-c8 27.f2-f3 Nf6-h5 28.c5-c6 Qd7-d6 29.c6xb7 Rc8xc1 30.Bd2xc1 Qd6-c7 31.Nb4xa6 Qc7xc1 32.Qg2-d2 Qc1-f1 33.Qd2-g2 Qf1-c1 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 29/43   00:00:08  135mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Qf3-g2 a7-a6 24.Nc3-a2 Kg8-g7 25.Na2-b4 h5-h4 26.Rf1-c1 Ra8-c8 27.Rb2-b3 Nf6-e4 28.Bd2-e1 Re8-h8 29.c5-c6 Qd7-e7 30.Rb3-b2 Ne4-f6 31.Rb2-b3 Nf6-e4 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 30/39   00:00:11  175mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 
  =  (-0.07 ++)   Depth: 31/39   00:00:11  176mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-g3 a7-a6 25.f2-f3 Be4-f5 26.Qg3-h4 Kg8-g7 27.Na2-b4 Re8-e6 28.Rf1-g1 Nf6-g8 29.Qh4xh5 Ng8-e7 30.Qh5-g5 Ra8-h8 31.h3-h4 Ne7-c6 32.Nb4xc6 b7xc6 33.Rb2-b3 Re6-e8 34.Bd2-b4 Bf5-c2 35.Rb3-c3 Bc2-f5 36.Rc3-b3 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 31/45   00:00:16  263mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-g3 a7-a6 25.f2-f3 Be4-f5 26.Qg3-h4 Kg8-g7 27.Na2-b4 Re8-e6 28.Rf1-g1 Nf6-g8 29.Qh4xh5 Ng8-e7 30.Qh5-g5 Ra8-h8 31.h3-h4 Ne7-c6 32.Nb4xc6 b7xc6 33.Rb2-b3 Re6-e8 34.Bd2-b4 Bf5-c2 35.Rb3-c3 Bc2-f5 36.Rc3-b3 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 32/35   00:00:20  322mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-g3 h5-h4 25.Qg3-g5 Be4-d3 26.Rf1-g1 Kg8-g7 27.Na2-b4 Bd3-f5 28.Qg5-g2 a7-a6 29.Rg1-c1 Ra8-c8 30.Rb2-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Bd2-e1 Re8-h8 32.c5-c6 Qd7-e7 33.Rb3-b2 Ne4-f6 34.Rb2-b3 Nf6-e4 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 33/32   00:00:23  374mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-g3 h5-h4 25.Qg3-g5 Be4-d3 26.Rf1-g1 Kg8-g7 27.Na2-b4 Bd3-f5 28.Qg5-g2 a7-a6 29.Rg1-c1 Ra8-c8 30.Rb2-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Bd2-e1 Re8-h8 32.c5-c6 Qd7-e7 33.Rb3-b2 Ne4-f6 34.Rb2-b3 Nf6-e4 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 34/42   00:00:29  484mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-g3 h5-h4 25.Qg3-g5 Be4-d3 26.Rf1-g1 Kg8-g7 27.Na2-b4 Bd3-f5 28.Qg5-g2 a7-a6 29.Rg1-c1 Ra8-c8 30.Rb2-b3 Nf6-e4 31.Bd2-e1 Re8-h8 32.c5-c6 Qd7-e7 33.Rb3-b2 Ne4-f6 34.Rb2-b3 Nf6-e4 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 35/32   00:00:42  693mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-e2 a7-a6 25.Na2-b4 Be4-f5 26.Qe2-f3 Kg8-g7 27.Qf3-g2 Re8-h8 28.Rf1-c1 Nf6-g4+ 29.Kh2-g1 Ng4-f6 30.Kg1-h2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 36/51   00:00:47  773mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-e2 a7-a6 25.Na2-b4 Be4-f5 26.Qe2-f3 Kg8-g7 27.Qf3-g2 Re8-h8 28.Rf1-c1 Nf6-g4+ 29.Kh2-g1 Ng4-f6 30.Kg1-h2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 37/23   00:00:59  963mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-e2 a7-a6 25.Na2-b4 Be4-f5 26.Qe2-f3 Kg8-g7 27.Qf3-g2 Re8-h8 28.Rf1-c1 Nf6-g4+ 29.Kh2-g1 Ng4-f6 30.Kg1-h2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 38/23   00:01:06  1085mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-e2 a7-a6 25.Na2-b4 Be4-f5 26.Qe2-f3 Kg8-g7 27.Qf3-g2 Re8-h8 28.Rf1-c1 Nf6-g4+ 29.Kh2-g1 Ng4-f6 30.Kg1-h2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 39/23   00:01:28  1444mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-e2 a7-a6 25.Na2-b4 Be4-f5 26.Qe2-f3 Kg8-g7 27.Qf3-g2 Re8-h8 28.Rf1-c1 Nf6-g4+ 29.Kh2-g1 Ng4-f6 30.Kg1-h2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 40/23   00:01:58  1930mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-e2 a7-a6 25.Na2-b4 Be4-f5 26.Qe2-f3 Kg8-g7 27.Qf3-g2 Re8-h8 28.Rf1-c1 Nf6-g4+ 29.Kh2-g1 Ng4-f6 30.Kg1-h2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 41/23   00:02:31  2485mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-e2 a7-a6 25.Na2-b4 Be4-f5 26.Qe2-f3 Kg8-g7 27.Qf3-g2 Re8-h8 28.Rf1-c1 Nf6-g4+ 29.Kh2-g1 Ng4-f6 30.Kg1-h2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 42/23   00:03:23  3340mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-e2 a7-a6 25.Na2-b4 Be4-f5 26.Qe2-f3 Kg8-g7 27.Qf3-g2 Re8-h8 28.Rf1-c1 Nf6-g4+ 29.Kh2-g1 Ng4-f6 30.Kg1-h2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 43/23   00:04:11  4148mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-e2 a7-a6 25.Na2-b4 Be4-f5 26.Qe2-f3 Kg8-g7 27.Qf3-g2 Re8-h8 28.Rf1-c1 Nf6-g4+ 29.Kh2-g1 Ng4-f6 30.Kg1-h2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 44/64   00:06:15  6195mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-e2 a7-a6 25.Na2-b4 Be4-f5 26.Qe2-f3 Kg8-g7 27.Qf3-g2 Re8-h8 28.Rf1-c1 Nf6-g4+ 29.Kh2-g1 Ng4-f6 30.Kg1-h2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 45/23   00:07:47  7750mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 24.Qf3-e2 a7-a6 25.Na2-b4 Be4-f5 26.Qe2-f3 Kg8-g7 27.Qf3-g2 Re8-h8 28.Rf1-c1 Nf6-g4+ 29.Kh2-g1 Ng4-f6 30.Kg1-h2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 46/23   00:11:30  11529mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 
  =  (-0.07 ++)   Depth: 47/57   00:21:38  21784mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Rf1-c1 a7-a6 24.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 25.Qf3-e2 Nf6-g4+ 26.Kh2-g1 Ng4-h6 27.Kg1-h2 Be4-f5 28.Qe2-f1 Kg8-g7 29.Qf1-g2 Bf5-d3 30.Na2-b4 Bd3-c4 31.Rc1xc4 d5xc4 32.d4-d5 Ra8-c8 33.c5-c6 b7xc6 34.d5xc6 Qd7-e6 35.Bd2-c3+ Kg7-f8 36.Rb2-d2 Nh6-f5 37.Rd2-d7 Nf5-h4 38.Qg2-h1 g6-g5 39.Nb4-d5 Rc8xc6 40.Nd5-f6 Rc6-d6 41.Rd7xd6 Qe6xd6 42.Nf6-h7+ Kf8-g8 43.Nh7-f6+ Kg8-f8 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 47/69   00:38:05  38369mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Rf1-c1 a7-a6 24.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 25.Qf3-e2 Nf6-g4+ 26.Kh2-g1 Ng4-h6 27.Kg1-h2 Kg8-g7 28.f2-f3 Be4-f5 29.Qe2-g2 Bf5-d3 30.Na2-b4 Bd3-c4 31.e3-e4 Kg7-h7 32.Rc1xc4 d5xc4 33.Nb4-d5 Qd7-d8 34.Bd2-c3 Ra8-b8 35.Nd5-b6 Qd8-c7 36.Nb6-d5 Qc7-d8 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 48/58   00:38:38  38933mN
19...Ng5-f3+ 20.Bg2xf3 Bh6xf4 21.g3xf4 e4xf3 22.Qd1xf3 c6xb5 23.Rf1-c1 a7-a6 24.Nc3-a2 Bf5-e4 25.Qf3-e2 Nf6-g4+ 26.Kh2-g1 Ng4-h6 27.Kg1-h2 Be4-f5 28.Qe2-f3 Bf5-e4 29.Qf3-e2 
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 49/21   00:46:07  46595mN
19...Bf5-g4 
  =  (-0.07 ++)   Depth: 50/32   01:42:13  104620mN
19...Bf5-g4 
  =  (-0.15 ++)   Depth: 50/57   02:07:11  130517mN
19...Bf5-g4 
  =  (-0.26 ++)   Depth: 50/57   02:39:35  164121mN
19...Bf5-g4 
  =/+  (-0.42 ++)   Depth: 50/78   03:02:23  187604mN
19...Bf5-g4 20.Qd1-b1 Ng5-f3+ 21.Bg2xf3 Bg4xf3 22.Nf4-g2 a7-a6 23.b5xc6 b7xc6 24.Ng2-h4 Nf6-h7 25.Nh4xf3 e4xf3 26.Rf1-h1 Bh6-g7 27.Rb2-b7 Qd7-c8 28.Rb7-b6 Bg7-f6 29.h3-h4 Bf6-d8 30.e3-e4 d5xe4 31.Nc3xe4 Bd8-c7 32.Rh1-f1 Qc8-d8 33.Ne4-d6 Bc7xd6 34.c5xd6 Qd8xd6 35.Qb1-b3 Qd6xd4 36.Bd2-c3 Qd4-d5 37.Qb3xd5 c6xd5 38.Rf1-d1 Re8-e2 39.Kh2-g1 Re2-c2 40.Bc3-e5 Nh7-f8 41.Rd1xd5 Rc2-c1+ 42.Kg1-h2 Rc1-f1 43.Rb6-b3 Rf1xf2+ 44.Kh2-g1 Rf2-e2 45.Rb3xf3 Ra8-c8 46.Rf3-f2 Rc8-c2 47.Rf2xe2 Rc2xe2 48.Kg1-f1 Re2-a2 49.Be5-c3 Nf8-e6 
  =/+  (-0.51)   Depth: 50/78   03:49:39  236644mN
19...Bf5-g4 
  =/+  (-0.58 ++)   Depth: 51/24   04:19:48  267999mN

(Bram,  06.01.2018)
Adam Hair
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Re: A blast from the past

Post by Adam Hair »

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
I am at least 3000 under quiet conditions.
And ALL the most advanced chess theory is due to me: https://en.chessbase.com/post/the-secret-of-chess

Which, next to your 2200 or so chess.com rating is hilarious.
I guess 2200 players should respect 3000 ones more, but maybe your family did not teach you that. It's not my fault.
These statements are not worthy of respect.
Everybody, but everybody aside you on this forum knows I am the world's best chess theoretician.
If this was true, there would be no need to make the statement.
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Re: Human versus Machine

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

Here one review for 'Human versus Machine': https://www.expert-chess-strategies.com ... chine.html
Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: Stockfish and Fischer

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

And here my latest puzzle for you from Fischer's positional suite:

[d]3r1rk1/1p1n1ppp/pNbpp3/8/2P1P3/5P2/PPB3PP/2RR2K1 w - - 0 19

White to play and win, single winning move.
This is from Fischer-Rossetto, Mar del Plata 1959.

Anyone able to find it?

Engines are reputed to be very good in the endgame, due to diminishing number of lines.
Do the 64/16 cores see it?
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Re: A blast from the past

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

Adam Hair wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
I am at least 3000 under quiet conditions.
And ALL the most advanced chess theory is due to me: https://en.chessbase.com/post/the-secret-of-chess

Which, next to your 2200 or so chess.com rating is hilarious.
I guess 2200 players should respect 3000 ones more, but maybe your family did not teach you that. It's not my fault.
These statements are not worthy of respect.
Everybody, but everybody aside you on this forum knows I am the world's best chess theoretician.
If this was true, there would be no need to make the statement.
Adam, are you reading the whole thread, his posts, or just mine?
He accused me of:

- lying 5 times
- copying a pattern/game to suit my needs
- being weak player

Which claims are more outrageous, according to you?

I can in full faith tell you: "You are a 5-time lier".
Are you happy now?
Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: A blast from the past

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

Guenther wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Everybody, but everybody aside you on this forum knows I am the world's best chess theoretician.

Later

PS. and, accusing me of lying is a BIG disgrace and offence, obviously.
Hilarious - wrong medication obviously...
Still, ChessBase published an article on ME, and not on YOU.
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Re: A blast from the past

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

MikeGL wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:I am at least 3000 under quiet conditions.
Yes of course you are rated 3000, just like all of us here in forum with our strong chess engines running in front of us.
Where's you proof you are stronger than top engines? By showing us again your
Qf6+! brilliancy? You call it a LIVE GAME, when it was neither live nor a game.
Cannot be LIVE, because it was hand-crafted composition done OFFLINE.
Cannot be a GAME if it started from some random FEN position and
not from a start position.

That's why, just prove me wrong by posting the complete game from move 1 in a standard chess starting position, not random FEN that's composed offline.
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:respect 3000
Rediculous. You are stronger than stockfish as what you claimed so you must be around 3600,
don't you think? Yes 3600, with INFINITE analysis of SF engine running in front.
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:Each and every chess engine sees the first game, don't be stup*d: it is mate in 5 or 6.
Care to provide the full PV and mate announcement? Clear hash first before clicking analyze, because I know your dirty tricks of modifying something in engine output.
I checked with all top 5 engines, none can play Qf6+ of Asauskas in 10 hours.
You modified that Asauskas test position, right? Then claim you are brilliant and stronger than all engines on planet.
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: so guess who discovered and popularised it.
Your ebook was published 2017, the combination of Asauskas posted in previous page was
done more than 17 years ago. You claim to discover it, lol? The truth is you discovered it from Asauskas.
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Concerning my game, I am very busy now, you have the link to the thread and are the interested party: why don't you strip the pgn yourself?
I saw the PGN there, but it started from a hand crafted FEN composition and NOT from a
starting position of a chess game with 1.e4 or 1.d4 or whatever from 20 possible first move in a starting position.
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:accusing me of lying
Easy to rebut if you can post the
complete PGN game, or post the name of engines which can solve the Asauskas Qf6+!
position that you have heavily modified.
Take note:

[pgn][PlyCount "95"]
[MLNrOfMoves "47"]
[MLFlags "000100"]
[Event "Blitz 5m+3s"]
[Site "Sofia"]
[Date "2015.02.06"]
[White "Tsvetkov, Lyudmil"]
[Black "Stockfish 6 64 POPCNT"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D00"]
[TimeControl "300+3"]
[Annotator "Tsvetkov,Lyudmil"]

{512MB, Dell XPS 4Cores} 1. f4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 1... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:16]} 2.
Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 2... e6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 3. d4 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 3... d5
{[%emt 0:00:09]} 4. e3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 4... c5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 5. c3
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 5... Be7 {[%emt 0: 00:18]} 6. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 6... O-O
{[%emt 0:00:31]} 7. O-O {[%emt 0:00:02]} 7... c4 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 8. Bc2
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 8... b5 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 9. a3 {[%emt 0:00: 04]} 9... Bb7
{[%emt 0:00:08]} 10. Ne5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 10... a5 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 11. Nd2
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 11... a4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 12. Qf3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 12... Nc6
{[%emt 0:00: 09]} 13. g4 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 13... g6 {[%emt 0:00:19]} 14. g5
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 14... Nxe5 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 15. dxe5 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 15... Nd7
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 16. Qg4 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 16... Nc5 {[%emt 0:00:13]} 17. Nf3
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 17... Qb6 {[%emt 0:00:39]} 18. Nd4 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 18... Ne4
{[%emt 0:00:13]} 19. Rf3 {[%emt 0:00:24]} 19... Bc6 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 20. Rh3
{[%emt 0:00:06]} 20... Rfc8 {[%emt 0:00:24]} 21. Qe2 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 21... Qd8
{[%emt 0:00:08]} 22. Bd2 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 22... Qf8 {[%emt 0:00:21]} 23. Kh1
{[%emt 0:00:24]} 23... Nc5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 24. Rg1 {[%emt 0:00:28]} 24... Ne4
{[%emt 0:00:34]} 25. Rg4 {[%emt 0:01:19]} 25... Qg7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 26. Be1
{[%emt 0: 00:42]} 26... Qh8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 27. Rgh4 {[%emt 0:00:26]} 27... Bd7
{[%emt 0:00:00]} 28. Bd1 {[%emt 0:00:19]} 28... Rd8 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 29. Qg2
{[%emt 0:00:11]} 29... Rac8 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 30. Rh6 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 30... Bf8
{[%emt 0:00:07]} 31. R6h4 {[%emt 0:00: 02]} 31... Be7 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 32. Kg1
{[%emt 0:00:10]} 32... Nc5 {[%emt 0:00:23]} 33. Bc2 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 33... Rb8
{[%emt 0:00:10]} 34. Bd2 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 34... h5 {[%emt 0:00: 05]} 35. Bd1
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 35... Qg7 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 36. Bxh5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 36... b4
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 37. axb4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 37... Nd3 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 38. Be2
{[%emt 0:00:05]} 38... a3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 39. bxa3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 39... Bc5
{[%emt 0:00:01]} 40. Rh6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 40... Bxd4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 41. exd4
{[%emt 0:00:01]} 41... Ra8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 42. Qg4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 42... Rxa3
{[%emt 0:00:03]} 43. Qh4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 43... Kf8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 44. Rh7
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 44... Qg8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 45. Rh8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 45... Ke7
{[%emt 0:00:04]} 46. Rxg8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 46... Rxg8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 47. Qh7
{[%emt 0:00:02]} 47... Rf8 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 48. Bxd3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 1-0
[/pgn]

Who is playing with f7 twice backward shelter pawn?
Who is winning?

This is from 'Human versus Machine', there are 15 or so games with this pattern in the 3 volumes, so this is MY trademark.

Asauskas played a single chance game, that is it.

His position is mate in 5, my mate in 25.

25=5, right, great mathematician.
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Re: A blast from the past

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

[d]r2q1r2/1b2bpkp/p3p1p1/2ppP1P1/7R/1PN1BQR1/1PP2P1P/4K3 w - - 0 1

Test position: really 64 cores don't see the mate in a reasonable time?

In my position they don't see it, that is for certain.

One way or another, this is mate in 7 or 8, with all stupid sacs counted in.
Mine is mate in 25.

If Asauskas knew something about the pattern, he would have written on it, right?
The fact is, only I wrote a book, describing the pattern.
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Re: Stockfish and Fischer

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

fastgm wrote:Stockfish sees only a slight advantage.

FEN: r1b2rk1/2q2ppp/p2p1b2/4pP2/4P3/1Pp1BQ2/1PP1N2P/R4RK1 w - - 0 18

Stockfish 180101 64 BMI2, 18 cores

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 20/30	00:01	 24.033k	21.809k	+0,61	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Qg4 Rfd8 20.Rad1 Rab8 21.Rf3 Qa5 22.Bg5 Bxg5 23.Qxg5 f6 24.Qh5 Rd7 25.Rh3 h6 26.Rg3 Qc5+ 27.Kh1 Kh8 28.Rdg1 Bc6 29.Rg6 a5 30.Qg4
 21/34	00:01	 40.286k	23.880k	+0,60	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Bc6 20.Rg2 Rfb8 21.Kh1 Rb4 22.Rag1 Qb7 23.Bg5 Bxg5 24.Rxg5 Bxe4 25.Nxe4 Qxe4 26.Rxg7+ Kh8 27.Qxe4 Rxe4 28.Rxf7 Rg8 29.c3 Re2 30.Rd7 Rxg1+ 31.Kxg1 Rxb2 32.b4 Rd2 33.Ra7 d5 34.Re7 d4 35.c4
 22/40	00:02	 56.093k	25.683k	+0,53	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Qg4 Rfd8 20.Rad1 Rab8 21.Rf3 Qa5 22.Bg5 Bxg5 23.Qxg5 f6 24.Qh5 Rd7 25.Rh3 h6 26.Rg3 Kh8 27.Qf3 Qb4 28.Kh1 a5 29.Rg2 Bc6 30.Rdg1 a4
 23/32	00:02	 73.023k	26.956k	+0,52	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Kh1 Rac8 20.Rg1 Rfd8 21.Rad1 Kh8 22.Qg4 Qd7 23.Rg2 Rg8 24.h3 g6 25.fxg6 Qe7 26.Nd5 Bxd5 27.exd5 fxg6 28.Ra1 Ra8 29.Ra4 Qf7 30.Qe6 Qxe6 31.dxe6
 24/42	00:03	 110.673k	28.517k	+0,50	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Kh1 Rac8 20.Rg1 Qd7 21.Bg5 Qd8 22.Bxf6 Qxf6 23.Raf1 Rfd8 24.Rg3 Kh8 25.h3 h6 26.Kh2 Rb8 27.Ra1 Rg8 28.Rgg1 Qh4 29.Rad1 Qf6 30.Rg3 Rgd8 31.Rg2 Rg8
 25/27	00:03	 112.064k	28.559k	+0,50	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Kh1 Rac8 20.Rg1 Qd7 21.Bg5 Qd8 22.Bxf6 Qxf6 23.Raf1 Rfd8 24.Rg3 Kh8 25.h3 h6 26.Kh2 Rb8 27.Ra1 Rg8 28.Rgg1 Qh4 29.Rad1 Qf6 30.Rg3 Rgd8 31.Rdg1
 26/38	00:04	 139.699k	29.159k	+0,50	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Kh1 Rac8 20.Rg1 Qd7 21.Bg5 Qd8 22.Bxf6 Qxf6 23.Raf1 Rfd8 24.Rg3 Kh8 25.h3 h6 26.Kh2 Rb8 27.Ra1 Rg8 28.Rgg1 Rbc8 29.Rg4 Rgd8 30.Rg3 Rg8 31.Rgg1 Rgd8 32.Rad1 Bc6
 27/36	00:05	 165.280k	29.583k	+0,59	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Kh1 Rac8 20.Rg1 Qd7 21.Rg2 Rfd8 22.Rd2 Qc7 23.Kg1 Qe7 24.Rg2 Kh8 25.Rf1 Bc6 26.Rg3 Qb7 27.Rh3 Kg8 28.Rd1 Rb8 29.Rg3 Kh8 30.Rd2 Qb4 31.Rh3 Kg8
 28/39	00:12	 390.273k	30.847k	+0,49	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Qd1 Kh8 22.Rg3 Rg8 23.Qf3 Qd8 24.Rf1 Qe7 25.Rh3 Bg5 26.Bxg5 Qxg5+ 27.Rg3 Qf6 28.h3 h6 29.Rg2 Bc6 30.Kh2 Bb7 31.Rg3 Rcd8 32.Rfg1 Rb8 33.Ra1
 29/39	00:15	 482.660k	30.766k	+0,49	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Qd1 Kh8 22.Rg3 Rg8 23.Qf3 Qd8 24.Rf1 Qe7 25.Rh3 Bg5 26.Bxg5 Qxg5+ 27.Rg3 Qf6 28.h3 h6 29.Kh2 Rce8 30.Ra1 Rb8 31.Rd1 Rgd8 32.Rdg1 Rg8 33.Qe3 Bc6 34.Ra1
 30/32	00:15	 482.731k	30.765k	+0,49	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Qd1 Kh8 22.Rg3 Rg8 23.Qf3 Qd8 24.Rf1 Qe7 25.Rh3 Bg5 26.Bxg5 Qxg5+ 27.Rg3 Qf6 28.h3 h6 29.Kh2 Rce8 30.Ra1 Rb8 31.Rd1 Rgd8 32.Rdg1 Rg8 33.Qe3 Bc6
 31/34	00:15	 488.437k	30.758k	+0,49	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Qd1 Kh8 22.Rg3 Rg8 23.Qf3 Qd8 24.Rf1 Qe7 25.Rh3 Bg5 26.Bxg5 Qxg5+ 27.Rg3 Qf6 28.h3 h6 29.Kh2 Rce8 30.Ra1 Rb8 31.Rd1 Rgd8 32.Rdg1 Rg8 33.Qe3 Bc6 34.Ra1 Bb7
 32/34	00:16	 497.234k	30.726k	+0,49	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Qd1 Kh8 22.Rg3 Rg8 23.Qf3 Qd8 24.Rf1 Bh4 25.Rg2 Bf6 26.Rg4 Qe7 27.Rg3 Bh4 28.Rh3 Bg5 29.Bxg5 Qxg5+ 30.Rg3 Qf6 31.h3 h6 32.Kh2 Rce8 33.Ra1 Rb8 34.Rd1 Rgd8
 33/36	00:21	 652.715k	30.244k	+0,49	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Qd1 Kh8 22.Rg3 Rg8 23.Qf3 Qd8 24.Rf1 Qe7 25.Rh3 Bg5 26.Bxg5 Qxg5+ 27.Rg3 Qf6 28.h3 h6 29.Kh2 Rce8 30.Ra1 Rb8 31.Rd1 Rgd8 32.Rdg1 Rg8 33.Qe3 d5 34.Nxd5 Bxd5 35.exd5 Qxf5
 34/49	00:40	 1.182.504k	29.502k	+0,49	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Rg4 Qe7 22.Rd1 Kh8 23.Rg3 Rg8 24.Rf1 Bh4 25.Rh3 Bg5 26.Bxg5 Qxg5+ 27.Rg3 Qf6 28.h3 h6 29.Kh2 Rce8 30.Ra1 Rb8 31.Rd1 Rgd8 32.Rdg1 Rg8 33.Qe2 Qh4 34.Rd1 Rgd8 35.Qg4
 35/47	01:40	 2.918.718k	29.178k	+0,50	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.h3 Kh8 22.Rd1 Rb8 23.h4 Bc6 24.Bg5 Qe7 25.Ra1 Rb4 26.Rxa6 Bxg5 27.Rxc6 Bh6 28.f6 Qxf6 29.Qxf6 gxf6 30.Rc7 Rf8 31.Rd7 Bc1 32.Re2 Rd4 33.Nb5 Rd1+ 34.Kf2 Rh1 35.Nxd6 Rxh4 36.Nxf7+ Kg8 37.Nd6 Kh8 38.Ra7 Bxb2 39.Nf5 Bd4+ 40.Nxd4 exd4
 36/52	02:14	 3.920.761k	29.119k	+0,50	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Kh1 Kh8 22.Rd1 Qa5 23.Qg4 Rd7 24.h4 Qb4 25.Kh2 Rxc3 26.bxc3 Qxe4 27.Qxe4 Bxe4 28.Rgd2 h6 29.c4 Bxh4 30.Rxd6 Rc7 31.R1d2 Bxf5 32.Kg1 Be4 33.Rxa6 Kg8 34.Rh2 Be1 35.Kf1 Bc3 36.Ra7 Rxa7 37.Bxa7 f5 38.Rh3
 37/55	02:55	 5.123.651k	29.251k	+0,61	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Kh1 Kh8 22.Rd1 Qa5 23.Qg4 Rd7 24.Bf2 Qd8 25.Bh4 h6 26.Kg1 a5 27.Bxf6 Qxf6 28.h3 Rg8 29.Kh2 Rdd8 30.Qe2 g6 31.fxg6 Qf4+ 32.Kh1 Rxg6 33.Rxg6 fxg6 34.Rf1 Qg3 35.Qg2 Qxg2+ 36.Kxg2 Bc6 37.Ra1 Ra8 38.Kf3 g5 39.Rd1 Rd8 40.Ra1 Rf8+ 41.Ke3
 38/61	04:23	 7.835.565k	29.725k	+0,49	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Kh1 Kh8 22.Rd1 Qa5 23.Qg4 Rd7 24.Bf2 Qd8 25.Bh4 h6 26.Bxf6 Qxf6 27.h3 Rdd8 28.Kh2 Rg8 29.Qf3 Rgd8 30.Qe3 Rb8 31.Rdg1 Rg8 32.Ra1 Qe7 33.Rg3 Qf6 34.Qd3 Rbc8 35.Rag1 Rb8 36.Qf3 Bc6 37.Ra1 Bb7 38.Kh1
 39/42	04:29	 8.035.914k	29.778k	+0,49	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Kh1 Kh8 22.Rd1 Qa5 23.Qg4 Rd7 24.Bf2 Qd8 25.Bh4 h6 26.Bxf6 Qxf6 27.h3 Rdd8 28.Kh2 Rg8 29.Qf3 Rgd8 30.Qe3 Rb8 31.Rdg1 Rg8 32.Ra1 Qe7 33.Rg3 Qf6 34.Qd3 Rbc8 35.Rag1 Rb8 36.Qf3 Rbc8 37.Rd1 Rb8 38.Rg2 Qe7
 40/43	04:31	 8.093.466k	29.791k	+0,49	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Kh1 Kh8 22.Rd1 Qa5 23.Qg4 Rd7 24.Bf2 Qd8 25.Bh4 h6 26.Bxf6 Qxf6 27.h3 Rdd8 28.Kh2 Rg8 29.Qf3 Rgd8 30.Qe3 Rb8 31.Rdg1 Rg8 32.Ra1 Qe7 33.Rg3 Qf6 34.Qd3 Rbc8 35.Rag1 Rb8 36.Qf3 Rbc8 37.Rd1 Rb8 38.Rgg1 Bc6 39.Ra1
 41/52	04:48	 8.630.101k	29.882k	+0,49	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Rfd8 20.Rg2 Rac8 21.Kh1 Kh8 22.Rd1 Qa5 23.Qg4 Rd7 24.Bf2 Qd8 25.Bh4 h6 26.Bxf6 Qxf6 27.h3 Rdd8 28.Kh2 Rg8 29.Qf3 Rgd8 30.Qe3 Rb8 31.Rdg1 Rg8 32.Ra1 Qe7 33.Rg3 Qf6 34.Qd3 Rbc8 35.Rag1 Rb8 36.Qf3 Rbc8 37.Rd1 Rb8 38.Rgg1 Bc6 39.Ra1 Bb7
 42/63	08:55	 16.415.217k	30.675k	+0,41	18.Nxc3 Bb7 19.Rf2 Kh8 20.Rg2 Qe7 21.Rg3 g6 22.Rh3 Rg8 23.Kh1 Bg5 24.Bxg5 Qxg5 25.f6 Rad8 26.Rf1 Rge8 27.Rg3 Qd2 28.Rg2 Qh6 29.Kg1 Re6 30.Qg3 Ree8 31.Qd3 Qh4 32.Rg3 Re6 33.Rh3 Qg4+ 34.Qg3 Qxg3+ 35.Rxg3 Rc8 36.Rgf3 h5 37.Kf2 Kh7 38.h4 Rg8 39.Nd5 Bxd5 40.exd5 Ree8 41.Ra1 Ra8 42.Rc3
 43/65	33:37	 63.234.484k	31.337k	+0,48	18.bxc3 Bd7 19.c4 a5 20.Nc3 Bc6 21.Qe2 Rfb8 22.Rfd1 a4 23.bxa4 Rb4 24.Nb5 Qc8 25.Nxd6 Qc7 26.a5 Rxa5 27.Rxa5 Qxa5 28.Qd2 Ra4 29.Qxa5 Rxa5 30.Rb1 Ra8 31.Rb6 Ba4 32.Rb7 Bd8 33.Nxf7 Bc6 34.Nxd8 Rxd8 35.Re7 Bxe4 36.c5 Kf8 37.Rxe5 Re8 38.Bd4 Rxe5 39.Bxe5 Bxc2 40.c6 Ke8 41.f6 gxf6 42.Bxf6 Kf7
 44/61	37:54	 71.306.107k	31.349k	+0,45	18.bxc3 Bb7 19.c4 a5 20.Nc3 Bc6 21.Qe2 Kh8 22.Rf3 Qe7 23.Kh1 Bg5 24.Bxg5 Qxg5 25.Rg1 Qf6 26.Qd2 Rg8 27.Qd3 Rgd8 28.Rgg3 Rg8 29.Rh3 Rgb8 30.Rf1 Rc8 31.Rg3 Rd8 32.Qd2 Rg8 33.Qe2 Rgb8 34.Rd3 Rg8 35.Qh5 Rab8 36.Qd1 Qh4 37.Qe2 Qf6 38.Rfd1 Qxf5 39.Rxd6 Qc8 40.Kg2 Ra8
 45/76	1:03:33	120.119.414k	31.495k	+0,49	18.bxc3 Bb7 19.c4 a5 20.Nc3 Kh8 21.h3 Rg8 22.Rfd1 Bc6 23.Kh2 Qb8 24.Qe2 Be7 25.Qd3 f6 26.Rg1 Qb7 27.Nd5 Bd8 28.Rg2 Bc7 29.Rg3 Bxd5 30.cxd5 Qb8 31.Ra4 Bb6 32.Bd2 Qe8 33.Qf3 Qf7 34.c4 Rgb8 35.h4 Bc5 36.Bxa5 Qd7 37.h5 Bd4 38.h6 gxh6 39.Bd2 Rxa4 40.bxa4 Qxa4 41.Qd3
 46/69	1:17:35	146.766.933k	31.525k	+0,34	18.bxc3 Bb7 19.c4 a5 20.Nc3 Kh8 21.h3 Bc6 22.Rfd1 Qb8 23.Qf1 Be7 24.Qd3 Qb7 25.Rf1 Rfb8 26.Nd5 Rg8 27.Kh2 Bd8 28.Ra2 f6 29.Rg1 Bc7 30.Raa1 Bb8 31.Rgf1 Bc7 32.Rfb1 Bd8 33.c3 Qf7 34.b4 a4 35.Rg1 g6 36.b5 Bb7 37.fxg6 Rxg6 38.Rxg6 hxg6 39.c5 dxc5 40.Bxc5 f5 41.c4
 47/58	1:19:38	150.699.591k	31.535k	+0,37	18.bxc3 Bb7 19.c4 a5 20.Nc3 Kh8 21.Qg4 Rfb8 22.h3 Bc6 23.Qd1 Qb7 24.Qd3 Be7 25.Kh2 Rg8 26.Nd5 Bd8 27.Ra2 f6 28.Rg1 Rc8 29.Rg2 a4 30.Ra1 Bxd5 31.Qxd5 Qxd5 32.exd5 axb3 33.cxb3 Rb8 34.Rb2 g6 35.fxg6 Rxg6 36.b4 f5 37.Rg2 Bf6 38.Ra4 Rxg2+ 39.Kxg2 Rg8+ 40.Kf1 Rg3 41.Bf2 Rc3 42.b5 Kg7 43.Kg2 Rc2 44.b6 Kg6
.
In fact, bc3 wins, while Nc3 draws.
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Re: Stockfish and Fischer

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

fastgm wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Btw., what happened to Bg4 in Nikolic-Fischer, 64 cores helpless, Andreas? :D
Stockfish finds 19 ... Bg4!

[d]r3r1k1/pp1q1p2/2p2npb/PPPp1bnp/3PpN2/2N1P1PP/1R1B1PBK/3Q1R2 b - - 0 19

Stockfish 180101 64 BMI2, 18 cores

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 20/30	00:00	 12.355k	14.071k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Nxb5 Bd3 24.Nd6 Bxf1 25.Rxb7 Qc6 26.f5 Red8 27.fxg6 Rxd6 28.gxf7+ Kg7 29.f8Q+ Kxf8 30.cxd6 Qxb7 31.Qxf6+ Qf7 32.Qh8+ Qg8 33.Qf6+ Qf7
 21/30	00:00	 14.914k	15.142k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Nxb5 Bd3 24.Nd6 Bxf1 25.Rxb7 Qc6 26.f5 Red8 27.fxg6 Rxd6 28.gxf7+ Kg7 29.f8Q+ Kxf8 30.cxd6 Qxb7 31.Qxf6+ Qf7 32.Qh8+ Qg8 33.Qf6+ Qf7
 22/30	00:01	 17.425k	16.075k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Nxb5 Bd3 24.Nd6 Bxf1 25.Rxb7 Qc6 26.f5 Red8 27.fxg6 Rxd6 28.gxf7+ Kg7 29.f8Q+ Kxf8 30.cxd6 Qxb7 31.Qxf6+ Qf7 32.Qh8+ Qg8 33.Qf6+ Qf7
 23/36	00:01	 30.685k	19.421k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.bxc6 bxc6 23.Qxf3 Rab8 24.Ra2 Rb3 25.Qg2 Reb8 26.f3 Kg7 27.Re1 Rb2 28.Rxb2 Rxb2 29.Re2 Bd3 30.Rf2 Rb3 31.Be1 Bf5 32.Bd2 Qe6 33.Re2 Bd3 34.Rf2 Bf5
 24/30	00:01	 34.479k	20.116k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.bxc6 bxc6 23.Qxf3 Rab8 24.Ra2 Rb3 25.Qg2 Reb8 26.f3 h4 27.Re1 Rb2 28.Rxb2 Rxb2 29.Re2 Bd3 30.Rf2 Nh5 31.Qg4 Qe8 32.Nd1 Rb1 33.Nc3 Rb2
 25/38	00:02	 45.932k	21.904k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.bxc6 bxc6 22.gxf4 exf3 23.Qxf3 Rab8 24.Rxb8 Rxb8 25.Ra1 Qe6 26.Qg2 Ne4 27.Nxe4 Bxe4 28.f3 Bd3 29.Rd1 Rb3 30.Rh1 Rb2 31.Qf2 Qf6 32.Ra1 Qe6 33.Rg1 Bf5 34.h4 Kg7
 26/36	00:02	 59.759k	23.518k	+0,07	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.bxc6 bxc6 22.gxf4 exf3 23.Qxf3 Rab8 24.Rxb8 Rxb8 25.Ra1 Rb2 26.Ra2 Rb3 27.Qg2 Ne4 28.Ne2 Kg7 29.Bc1 Nc3 30.Nxc3 Rxc3 31.Bd2 Rb3 32.a6 Be4 33.f3 Bf5 34.Ra1
 27/36	00:03	 76.066k	24.777k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Na2 a6 24.Qg2 Kg7 25.Nb4 h4 26.Rg1 Be4 27.Qf1 Rh8 28.Be1 Nh5 29.Bd2 Nf6
 28/33	00:03	 92.935k	25.651k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Na2 a6 24.Qg2 Kg7 25.Nb4 h4 26.Rg1 Be4 27.Qf1 Rh8 28.Be1 Nh5 29.Bd2 Nf6
 29/19	00:04	 122.971k	26.669k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Na2 a6 24.Qg2 Kg7 25.Rc1 Rh8 26.f3 Ng4+ 27.Kg1 Nf6 28.Kh2
 30/19	00:04	 132.694k	26.927k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Na2 a6 24.Qg2 Kg7 25.Nb4 Rh8 26.Rc1 Ng4+ 27.Kg1 Nf6 28.Kh2
 31/19	00:06	 194.213k	28.009k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Na2 a6 24.Qg2 Kg7 25.Nb4 Rh8 26.Rc1 Ng4+ 27.Kg1 Nf6 28.Kh2
 32/19	00:09	 280.291k	28.804k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Na2 a6 24.Qg2 Kg7 25.Nb4 Rh8 26.Rc1 Ng4+ 27.Kg1 Nf6 28.Kh2
 33/19	00:10	 291.218k	28.885k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Na2 a6 24.Qg2 Kg7 25.Nb4 Rh8 26.Rc1 Ng4+ 27.Kg1 Nf6 28.Kh2
 34/19	00:13	 398.093k	29.128k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Na2 a6 24.Qg2 Kg7 25.Nb4 Rh8 26.Rc1 Ng4+ 27.Kg1 Nf6 28.Kh2
 35/19	00:18	 532.974k	28.883k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Na2 a6 24.Qg2 Kg7 25.Nb4 Rh8 26.Rc1 Ng4+ 27.Kg1 Nf6 28.Kh2
 36/19	00:21	 604.745k	28.596k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Na2 a6 24.Qg2 Kg7 25.Nb4 Rh8 26.Rc1 Ng4+ 27.Kg1 Nf6 28.Kh2
 37/19	00:27	 767.730k	27.681k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Na2 a6 24.Qg2 Kg7 25.Nb4 Rh8 26.Rc1 Ng4+ 27.Kg1 Nf6 28.Kh2
 38/19	00:39	 1.101.539k	28.023k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Na2 a6 24.Qg2 Kg7 25.Nb4 Rh8 26.Rc1 Ng4+ 27.Kg1 Nf6 28.Kh2
 39/50	01:25	 2.357.768k	27.721k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Rc1 a6 24.Na2 Ng4+ 25.Kg1 Nh6 26.Kh2 Bd3 27.Nb4 Be4 28.Qe2 Ng4+ 29.Kg1 Nf6 30.f3 Bf5 31.h4 Kg7 32.Qg2 Re6 33.Re1 Qd8 34.Bc3 Qc7 35.Qf2 Ree8 36.Bd2 Re6 37.Ra1 Rae8 38.Kh2 Kh7 39.Rb3 Qd8 40.Qg3 Kg7 41.Qf2
 40/54	01:52	 3.114.304k	27.570k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Rc1 a6 24.Na2 Ng4+ 25.Kg1 Nh6 26.Kh2 Be4 27.Qe2 Ng4+ 28.Kg1 Nf6 29.Kh2 h4 30.Nb4 Kg7 31.Rg1 Bf5 32.Qf1 Ne4 33.Qg2 Rac8 34.Rc1 Qd8 35.Be1 Nf6 36.Ra1 Qd7 37.c6 Qc7 38.Rb3 Ne4 39.Rb2 Nf6
 41/56	03:18	 5.500.691k	27.721k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Rc1 a6 24.Na2 Ng4+ 25.Kg1 Nh6 26.Kh2 Qd8 27.Qg2 Kg7 28.c6 bxc6 29.Rxc6 Qh4 30.f3 Bc8 31.Rb6 Nf5 32.e4 dxe4 33.fxe4 Nxd4 34.f5 Qxe4 35.Rxg6+ fxg6 36.Qxg6+ Kh8 37.Qxh5+ Kg8 38.Qg6+ Kh8 39.Qh6+ Kg8 40.Qg6+
 42/55	03:38	 6.089.067k	27.911k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Rc1 a6 24.Na2 Ng4+ 25.Kg1 Nh6 26.Kh2 Qd8 27.Qg2 Kg7 28.Rd1 Be6 29.Nb4 Nf5 30.Rg1 Nh4 31.Qg3 Nf5 32.Qg2
 43/48	03:51	 6.487.165k	28.053k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Rc1 a6 24.Na2 Ng4+ 25.Kg1 Nh6 26.Kh2 Qd8 27.Qg2 Kg7 28.Rd1 Be6 29.Nb4 Nf5 30.Rg1 Nh4 31.Qg3 Nf5 32.Qg2
 44/50	04:24	 7.472.173k	28.252k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Rc1 a6 24.Na2 Ng4+ 25.Kg1 Nh6 26.Kh2 Qd8 27.Qg2 Kg7 28.Rd1 Be6 29.Nb4 Nf5 30.Rg1 Nh4 31.Qg3 Nf5 32.Qg2
 45/27	05:41	 9.804.954k	28.735k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Rc1 a6 24.Na2 Ng4+ 25.Kg1 Nh6 26.Kh2 Qd8 27.Qg2 Kg7 28.Rd1 Be6 29.Nb4 Nf5 30.Rg1 Nh4 31.Qg3 Nf5 32.Qg2
 46/27	08:42	 15.368.059k	29.407k	 0,00	19. ... Nf3+ 20.Bxf3 Bxf4 21.gxf4 exf3 22.Qxf3 cxb5 23.Rc1 a6 24.Na2 Ng4+ 25.Kg1 Nh6 26.Kh2 Qd8 27.Qg2 Kg7 28.Rd1 Be6 29.Nb4 Nf5 30.Rg1 Nh4 31.Qg3 Nf5 32.Qg2
 47/32+  14:53	 26.885.357k	30.088k	+0,07	19. ... Bg4
 47/85	52:51	 98.872.689k	31.180k	+0,89	19. ... Bg4 20.Qb1 Nf3+ 21.Bxf3 Bxf3 22.a6 Bxf4 23.exf4 Ng4+ 24.Kg1 Nh6 25.Kh2 bxa6 26.bxc6 Qxc6 27.Qa2 Ng4+ 28.Kg1 Nf6 29.Kh2 Qe6 30.Be3 Kg7 31.Rb7 Ng4+ 32.Kg1 Nxe3 33.fxe3 Qxh3 34.Qh2 Qe6 35.Rfb1 Red8 36.Qh4 Rd7 37.Kf2 Rc8 38.Ke1 Bg4 39.Qg5 Bf5 40.Qh4 Qc6 41.R7b2 Bg4 42.Ra1 Re8 43.Rba2 Qb7 44.Rb1 Qc8 45.Kd2 Rb7 46.Qh1 Be6 47.Rxb7 Qxb7 48.Qb1 Qc6 49.Qf1 Bc8 50.Rb2 Qd7 51.Qb1 a5 52.Qa2
 48/88	2:12:09	250.279.091k	31.565k	+1,38	19. ... Bg4 20.Qb1 Nf3+ 21.Bxf3 Bxf3 22.a6 Bxf4 23.exf4 Ng4+ 24.Kg1 Nh6 25.Kh2 bxa6 26.bxc6 Qxc6 27.Qa2 Ng4+ 28.Kg1 Nf6 29.Kh2 Qe6 30.Be3 Kg7 31.Rb7 Ng4+ 32.Kg1 Nxe3 33.fxe3 Rab8 34.Rxb8 Rxb8 35.Kh2 a5 36.Rb1 Rxb1 37.Qxb1 Qa6 38.Qb5 Qxb5 39.Nxb5 Be2 40.Nc3 Bf1 41.Kg1 Bxh3 42.Nxd5 a4 43.Nc3 a3 44.d5 Kf8 45.Kf2 Bc8 46.Ke1 Ke7 47.Kd2 Ba6 48.Kc2 Bc4 49.Kb1 f5 50.Kc2 Kd8 51.Kb1 Kd7 52.Ka1 a5 53.Kb1 Kc7
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52 minutes, Andreas, 52 minutes. :D
2 hours for a more convincing score.

Certainly, it will lose all games in TCEC like that.