TCEC 10
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Well.. rules allow one update during stage to fix play limiting bugs.
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It looks like Komodo is now running ~20% slower than in prior rounds.
How many ELO is that supposed to be worth?
I can't imagine K's NUMA bug is entirely responsible for the thrashing it's receiving.
How many ELO is that supposed to be worth?
I can't imagine K's NUMA bug is entirely responsible for the thrashing it's receiving.
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About Houdini overall, there is something I like about its piece sacrifices and willingness to take calculated chances.
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Indeed. Bad luck probably plays a bigger role.Geonerd wrote:It looks like Komodo is now running ~20% slower than in prior rounds.
How many ELO is that supposed to be worth?
I can't imagine K's NUMA bug is entirely responsible for the thrashing it's receiving.
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Not such thing as bad luck. It is currently +5=20-0 which translates tosyzygy wrote:Indeed. Bad luck probably plays a bigger role.Geonerd wrote:It looks like Komodo is now running ~20% slower than in prior rounds.
How many ELO is that supposed to be worth?
I can't imagine K's NUMA bug is entirely responsible for the thrashing it's receiving.
70+/-56Elo (2 sigma error bars).
Houdini is simply a stronger engine.
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That is just loser whining, nothing else.I read from TCEC chat, that ML confirmed Komodo 1970 has NUMA bug causing slow speed
Komodo is a good Engine and in some ways even better than Houdini, but Lefler is simply paying the price of being over-cautious with his ridiculous Contempt 0.
In Chess, as in Life, sometimes chances have to be taken to achieve something worthwhile.
He who Dares, Wins !
That's EXACTLY what positive Contempt is about !About Houdini overall, there is something I like about its piece sacrifices and willingness to take calculated chances.
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Agree. The engine isn't crashing, it isn't causing problems with GUI or hardware, and isn't losing on time.Damir wrote:No adjustments. Komodo must suffer. The version Komodo is playing with should have been tested before the super final, and found out if it was buggy or not... Komodo should not have any kind of special treatment
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20% Slower means Komodo might loose something like 15 to 20 elo I guess ? Can someone estimate it ?
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In a match with two equally strong engines, there is a 1 in 16 probability that the first 5 wins are by the same engine. Are you seriously claiming that there is no such thing as a 1 in 16 event?Milos wrote:Not such thing as bad luck. It is currently +5=20-0 which translates tosyzygy wrote:Indeed. Bad luck probably plays a bigger role.Geonerd wrote:It looks like Komodo is now running ~20% slower than in prior rounds.
How many ELO is that supposed to be worth?
I can't imagine K's NUMA bug is entirely responsible for the thrashing it's receiving.
70+/-56Elo (2 sigma error bars).
Houdini is simply a stronger engine.
But I was not even suggesting that they are equally strong. I just pointed out that there is no reason to suspect that the version of Komodo now playing is seriously bugged, i.e. beyond having lower nps than the earlier versions.
I recently ran a test that had one engine lead the other 10-1-19 before it got trashed. It just got lucky in those first 30 games. Such things happen all the time.
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If a doubling in speed wins 50 Elo, so a loss of 50% speed loses 50 Elo, then a loss of 20% speed corresponds to a loss of 50 * log(0.8) / log(0.5) = 16 Elo.JJJ wrote:20% Slower means Komodo might loose something like 15 to 20 elo I guess ? Can someone estimate it ?