TCEC 10
Moderators: hgm, Rebel, chrisw
-
- Posts: 3309
- Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:15 pm
Re: TCEC 10
6 - 1 for Houdini. With traditional human Wch rules it's over! Minor interest: will Houdini get black win? I predict yes.
Jouni
-
- Posts: 12554
- Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:57 pm
- Location: Redmond, WA USA
Re: TCEC 10
Right now, there are 55 out of 100 games not completed with score:Jouni wrote:6 - 1 for Houdini. With traditional human Wch rules it's over! Minor interest: will Houdini get black win? I predict yes.
Komodo + 1 = 34 - 7
Which means it is possible to finish +56 = 34 -7
Though admittedly (cough) highly unlikely.
So I am wondering what kind of cock-eyed traditional rules mandate a win for the side with advantage at this point? It is (quite frankly) absurd unless they have "skunk" or "mercy" rules.
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.
-
- Posts: 10393
- Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:37 am
- Location: Tel-Aviv Israel
Re: TCEC 10
Traditional human wch rules say that the side that get 6 wins first win.Dann Corbit wrote:Right now, there are 55 out of 100 games not completed with score:Jouni wrote:6 - 1 for Houdini. With traditional human Wch rules it's over! Minor interest: will Houdini get black win? I predict yes.
Komodo + 1 = 34 - 7
Which means it is possible to finish +56 = 34 -7
Though admittedly (cough) highly unlikely.
So I am wondering what kind of cock-eyed traditional rules mandate a win for the side with advantage at this point? It is (quite frankly) absurd unless they have "skunk" or "mercy" rules.
-
- Posts: 6344
- Joined: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:34 pm
- Location: Acworth, GA
Re: TCEC 10
In a Galaxy, that's far far away from ours!Dann Corbit wrote:Right now, there are 55 out of 100 games not completed with score:Jouni wrote:6 - 1 for Houdini. With traditional human Wch rules it's over! Minor interest: will Houdini get black win? I predict yes.
Komodo + 1 = 34 - 7
Which means it is possible to finish +56 = 34 -7
Though admittedly (cough) highly unlikely.
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
__________________________________________________________________
Ted Summers
__________________________________________________________________
Ted Summers
-
- Posts: 491
- Joined: Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:25 pm
- Full name: Colin Jenkins
-
- Posts: 2273
- Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:50 am
Re: TCEC 10
The z-value (W+L)/sqrt(W-L) is currently 5/3=1.66, well within the 95% interval [-1.96,1.96]. So the claims that Komodo is being routed were premature.
Of course we have to wait for the final outcome but currently there is little hard evidence to back up the general perception here that Houdini is now somehow "much stronger" than Komodo.
Of course we have to wait for the final outcome but currently there is little hard evidence to back up the general perception here that Houdini is now somehow "much stronger" than Komodo.
Ideas=science. Simplification=engineering.
Without ideas there is nothing to simplify.
Without ideas there is nothing to simplify.
-
- Posts: 10948
- Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:21 pm
- Full name: Kai Laskos
Re: TCEC 10
Correct the signs, to be pedantic .Michel wrote:The z-value (W+L)/sqrt(W-L) is currently 5/3=1.66, well within the 95% interval [-1.96,1.96]. So the claims that Komodo is being routed were premature.
Of course we have to wait for the final outcome but currently there is little hard evidence to back up the general perception here that Houdini is now somehow "much stronger" than Komodo.
-
- Posts: 2273
- Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:50 am
Re: TCEC 10
Dyslexia... (W-L)/sqrt(W+L).
Ideas=science. Simplification=engineering.
Without ideas there is nothing to simplify.
Without ideas there is nothing to simplify.
-
- Posts: 4618
- Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:33 am
- Location: Regensburg, Germany
- Full name: Guenther Simon
Re: TCEC 10
All people who never believed in stats will learn the hard way in the TCEC final.Geonerd wrote:[profanity], this is a pedantic, argumentative bunch! :(
Have any of the people lecturing the world on "correct statistics" even looked at the bleeping games???
IMO, Houdini has a clear 'pull' over Komodo in the middle-game, and is generally the one with winning chances. Combine that with the current score and - yea - I'd call it a 'thrashing.'
Komodo soon at 3:7 =42 and being the first to win with Black!
100 games are simply nothing between equally strong programs.
https://rwbc-chess.de
trollwatch:
Talkchess nowadays is a joke - it is full of trolls/idiots/people stuck in the pleistocene > 80% of the posts fall into this category...
trollwatch:
Talkchess nowadays is a joke - it is full of trolls/idiots/people stuck in the pleistocene > 80% of the posts fall into this category...
-
- Posts: 5569
- Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:56 pm
Re: TCEC 10
They will learn?Guenther wrote:All people who never believed in stats will learn the hard way in the TCEC final.
This is a pattern that will keep repeating. Engines are judged by their last game only.