TCEC 10

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Re: TCEC 10

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What a win for Stockfish. I suppose arb thinks the tournament is fair now.
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Leo wrote:What a win for Stockfish. I suppose arb thinks the tournament is fair now.
This is all part of the complex scam that goes 600 levels deep. Even Stockfish is part of it.
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If Stockfish goes stage 2 lossless I consider it already as winner. No interest to continue with possible K vs H final :!: .
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Jouni wrote:If Stockfish goes stage 2 lossless I consider it already as winner. No interest to continue with possible K vs H final :!: .
Funny that the whole thing pivots for you on a single loss (as the others have).

Surely you realize how random that is.
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Jouni wrote:If Stockfish goes stage 2 lossless I consider it already as winner. No interest to continue with possible K vs H final :!: .
I have similar feelings but I will respect the final winner also.
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gotogo wrote:It's game selection and it is to favor komodo! absolutely the worst tcec yet!
only three stages get rid of the competition early! Tcec is nothing more than a scam!
For the jerks that would think I might be arb well what can I say other than you're a jerk!
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Dann Corbit wrote:
Jouni wrote:If Stockfish goes stage 2 lossless I consider it already as winner. No interest to continue with possible K vs H final :!: .
Funny that the whole thing pivots for you on a single loss (as the others have).

Surely you realize how random that is.
No more random than basing the winner on how it did against the weakest engines. An argument could be made that fewer losses is more important than more wins.
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Dirt wrote: An argument could be made that fewer losses is more important than more wins.
No need to make arguments, 1 win with 1 loss will get the same score as 2 draws. (You can see in the rules,) But in comparison of scores between engines A -10 draws vs Engine B 9 win 1 loss. Engine B will advance. and that should logically be!
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Dirt wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:
Jouni wrote:If Stockfish goes stage 2 lossless I consider it already as winner. No interest to continue with possible K vs H final :!: .
Funny that the whole thing pivots for you on a single loss (as the others have).

Surely you realize how random that is.
No more random than basing the winner on how it did against the weakest engines. An argument could be made that fewer losses is more important than more wins.
Give me daring chess any day, over a draw master. But that is just personal preference. The winner is determined by points and SB.
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Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Dirt wrote: An argument could be made that fewer losses is more important than more wins.
No need to make arguments, 1 win with 1 loss will get the same score as 2 draws. (You can see in the rules,) But in comparison of scores between engines A -10 draws vs Engine B 9 win 1 loss. Engine B will advance. and that should logically be!
The problematic situation is Stockfish with no losses but three fewer wins versus one loss and three more wins for Houdini and Komodo. The rules do say that Stockfish failed, but I'm not at all sure that it would be the weaker program.
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