Hey guys,
I just witnessed a game on my PC in which, once it'd caught my attention, left me glued to the screen until it's completion.
When Henny played Rb5 and Bd2 trapping the black queen, and black had to give up the Q for a knight - I was about to adjudicate the game - but then I looked twice...
What the hell??
[pgn][Event "Charactors"]
[Site "MacBook Pro Early 2015"]
[Date "2018.01.11"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Rodent III Henny"]
[Black "Rodent III Scorpion"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B37"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[PlyCount "404"]
[EventDate "2018.??.??"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6 5. c4 Bg7 6. Nc2 Qb6 {0.81/14 2} 7.
Nc3 {0.13/13 2} Bxc3+ {0.64/14 2} 8. bxc3 {-0.04/13 2} Nf6 {0.69/14 2} 9. f3 {
0.26/14 2} Qa5 {0.68/13 2} 10. Be2 {0.26/13 2} h5 {0.65/13 2} 11. O-O {
0.47/13 2} h4 {0.81/13 2} 12. Be3 {0.59/13 2} Qxc3 {0.62/14 2} 13. Rb1 {
0.78/14 2} h3 {0.54/13 2} 14. Rb5 {0.84/13 2} hxg2 {0.77/13 2} 15. Bd2 {
1.09/13 2} Qxc2 {0.66/16 2} 16. Qxc2 {1.27/13 2} Nd4 {0.59/18 2} 17. Qd3 {
1.44/14 2} gxf1=B {0.57/17 2} 18. Qxd4 {1.75/16 2} Bxe2 {1.95/14 2} 19. Re5 {
1.70/14 2} d6 {-0.06/12 2} 20. Rxe7+ {1.98/15 2} Kxe7 {0.00/16 2} 21. Bg5 {
1.75/14 2} Kd7 {0.00/16 2} 22. Bxf6 {2.31/14 2} Re8 {-0.27/14 2} 23. c5 {
2.50/15 2} Re6 {-1.25/16 2} 24. Qa4+ {2.46/13 2} Kc7 {-1.01/17 2} 25. cxd6+ {
2.04/14 2} Rxd6 {-0.87/12 1} 26. Be5 {2.19/14 2} Be6 {-0.83/14 1} 27. Qd4 {
2.24/17 1} Rad8 {-0.93/15 1} 28. Qc5+ {2.46/13 1} Kb8 {-0.96/17 1} 29. Bxd6+ {
2.29/16 1} Ka8 {-0.90/17 1} 30. Be5 {2.35/15 1} Rc8 {-0.74/15 1} 31. Qe3 {
2.16/15 1} Bb5 {-0.78/14 1} 32. a3 {2.10/14 1} b6 {-0.60/14 1} 33. Kf2 {
2.10/15 1} Kb7 {-0.67/14 1} 34. Qd2 {2.13/15 1} Rc5 {-0.82/16 1} 35. Bd6 {
2.16/17 1} Rc4 {-0.74/16 1} 36. h4 {2.15/15 1} Ka6 {-0.84/17 1} 37. Bb8 {
2.14/15 1} Rc8 {-0.80/16 1} 38. Be5 {2.10/17 1} Rc5 {-0.72/16 1} 39. Bd4 {
2.13/16 1} Rc4 {-0.83/17 1} 40. Ke3 {2.10/17 1} Ra4 {-0.82/17 1} 41. Qb2 {
2.13/16 1} Rc4 {-0.80/15 1} 42. Bf6 {2.09/17 1} Ra4 {-0.80/17 1} 43. Kf4 {
2.14/16 1} Bd3 {-0.81/15 1} 44. Bc3 {2.34/15 1} Rc4 {-0.95/16 1} 45. Qd2 {
2.23/14 1} Bb1 {-1.00/15 1} 46. a4 {2.66/14 1} f5 {-1.39/12 1} 47. Ke5 {
2.72/13 1} Rc6 {-0.74/12 1} 48. a5 {2.66/12 1} fxe4 {-0.98/12 1} 49. fxe4 {
2.40/12 1} Bb3 {-0.74/13 1} 50. axb6 {3.11/14 1} Re6+ {-0.68/13 1} 51. Kf4 {
2.21/16 1} Rxe4+ {-0.76/13 1} 52. Kg5 {2.48/14 1} axb6 {-0.57/13 1} 53. Qd8 {
2.43/13 1} B1c2 {-0.57/15 1} 54. Kh6 {2.73/12 1} Re6 {-0.58/15 1} 55. Bd4 {
2.75/13 1} Kb5 {-0.55/14 1} 56. Kg5 {2.78/13 1} Be4 {-0.55/14 1} 57. Qc7 {
2.71/13 1} Rc6 {-0.62/14 1} 58. Qe5+ {2.84/13 1} Bbd5 {-0.62/14 1} 59. Be3 {
2.74/14 1} Rc4 {-0.65/15 1} 60. Kh6 {2.78/13 1} Rc6 {-0.63/14 1} 61. Qd4 {
2.77/13 1} Ka6 {-0.55/16 1} 62. Qa4+ {2.86/14 1} Kb7 {-0.63/17 1} 63. Qa1 {
2.84/14 1} Re6 {-0.61/14 1} 64. Qb2 {2.80/14 1} Bc4 {-0.62/15 1} 65. Qg7+ {
2.81/14 1} Ka6 {-0.57/14 1} 66. Qc7 {2.83/14 1} Bed5 {-0.58/16 1} 67. Bf2 {
2.87/14 1} Rc6 {-0.55/16 1} 68. Qe7 {2.76/14 1} Re6 {-0.64/15 1} 69. Qd8 {
2.77/14 1} Be4 {-0.59/15 1} 70. Qc8+ {2.77/14 1} Kb5 {-0.61/16 1} 71. Qd7+ {
2.86/13 1} Bc6 {-0.62/15 1} 72. Qd4 {2.78/15 1} B6d5 {-0.54/15 1} 73. Qa1 {
2.75/13 1} Bb3 {-0.65/15 1} 74. Qc3 {2.75/13 1} Rc6 {-0.62/16 1} 75. Qd3+ {
2.84/14 1} Bdc4 {-0.57/15 1} 76. Qd7 {2.84/14 1} Bc2 {-0.61/15 1} 77. Kg7 {
2.73/13 1} B2b3 {-0.59/15 1} 78. Qa7 {2.75/13 1} Bc2 {-0.62/16 1} 79. Qa1 {
2.75/14 1} Bd5 {-0.56/14 1} 80. Qa3 {2.77/13 1} Bce4 {-0.61/14 1} 81. Bd4 {
2.74/14 1} Rc4 {-0.61/15 1} 82. Be3 {2.71/13 1} Rc2 {-0.54/15 1} 83. Qa1 {
2.81/14 1} Rc4 {-0.64/16 1} 84. Qb2+ {2.78/13 1} Rb4 {-0.50/13 1} 85. Qe2+ {
2.86/14 1} Kc6 {-0.67/14 1} 86. Qa6 {3.33/14 1} Rb3 {-0.61/14 1} 87. Bg1 {
3.74/13 1} Rb4 {-0.83/13 1} 88. Qa7 {4.06/12 1} Rb1 {-0.54/15 1} 89. Bh2 {
3.19/13 1} Kc5 {-0.37/12 1} 90. Qa4 {3.54/13 1} b5 {-0.38/12 1} 91. Qa6 {
3.35/12 1} Kb4 {0.00/14 1} 92. Bd6+ {3.02/12 1} Kc4 {0.00/15 1} 93. Qa3 {
2.99/14 1} b4 {0.00/13 1} 94. Qa2+ {3.07/12 1} Kd4 {0.00/17 1} 95. Qf2+ {
2.57/13 1} Kc3 {0.00/17 1} 96. Be5+ {2.79/14 1} Kd3 {0.00/15 1} 97. Qd4+ {
2.87/13 1} Kc2 {0.00/16 1} 98. Bd6 {3.14/12 1} b3 {0.21/12 1} 99. Qf2+ {
2.50/13 1} Kd3 {0.00/15 1} 100. Bb4 {2.39/12 1} Rd1 {0.00/16 1} 101. Ba5 {
2.83/12 1} Kc4 {0.00/12 1} 102. Qe3 {2.63/12 1} Rd3 {0.00/14 1} 103. Qc1+ {
3.61/13 1} Kd4 {0.00/14 1} 104. Bb6+ {3.46/11 1} Ke5 {0.00/18 1} 105. Qg5+ {
4.66/11 1} Kd6 {0.00/14 1} 106. Qd8+ {4.16/14 1} Ke6 {0.00/17 1} 107. Qf6+ {
3.30/13 1} Kd7 {0.00/21 1} 108. Qe5 {3.23/13 1} Bc6 {0.00/14 1} 109. Ba5 {
3.51/13 1} Bcd5 {0.00/12 1} 110. Qc7+ {3.59/12 1} Ke6 {-0.12/17 1} 111. Qf7+ {
3.49/13 1} Kd6 {-0.90/20 1} 112. Qf6+ {3.23/14 1} Kd7 {-1.22/13 1} 113. Kh6 {
3.76/14 1} Rf3 {0.00/15 1} 114. Qd8+ {4.10/11 1} Kc6 {0.00/14 1} 115. Qe8+ {
2.87/12 1} Kc5 {0.00/14 1} 116. Qe7+ {2.79/13 1} Kb5 {0.00/19 1} 117. Qa3 {
2.75/13 1} Kc4 {0.00/17 1} 118. Qb4+ {2.86/14 1} Kd3 {0.00/23 1} 119. Qc3+ {
3.10/14 1} Ke2 {0.00/26 1} 120. Qe1+ {2.67/13 1} Kd3 {0.00/26 1} 121. Qd2+ {
3.15/14 1} Kc4 {0.00/26 1} 122. Qc1+ {3.15/14 1} Kd3 {0.00/16 1} 123. Qd1+ {
2.94/12 1} Kc4 {0.00/30 1} 124. Qd2 {2.78/13 1} Bc6 {0.00/16 1} 125. Kg7 {
3.66/13 1} Bcd5 {0.00/14 1} 126. Qc1+ {2.02/13 1} Kb5 {0.75/13 1} 127. Qa3 {
2.08/13 1} g5 {0.19/14 1} 128. h5 {2.66/11 1} Kc6 {0.23/11 1} 129. Qa4+ {
2.54/12 1} Kd6 {0.29/12 1} 130. Kh6 {2.32/12 1} g4 {0.04/11 1} 131. Qb4+ {
2.25/11 1} Kd7 {0.00/14 1} 132. Qb6 {2.33/12 1} Bc6 {0.00/14 1} 133. Qd4+ {
2.71/11 1} Bcd5 {0.00/14 1} 134. Qg7+ {2.17/11 1} Kc6 {0.00/13 1} 135. Qc7+ {
5.15/11 1} Kb5 {0.00/21 1} 136. Qb6+ {3.48/11 1} Kc4 {0.00/22 1} 137. Qb4+ {
3.02/13 1} Kd3 {0.00/22 1} 138. Qd2+ {2.51/13 1} Kc4 {0.00/22 1} 139. Kg5 {
2.59/12 1} g3 {0.00/11 1} 140. h6 {3.39/12 1} Bc6 {0.00/11 1} 141. Qb4+ {
3.41/12 1} Kd5 {0.00/13 1} 142. Bc7 {2.22/11 1} g2 {0.00/11 1} 143. Bh2 {
2.22/9 1} Rg3+ {0.00/11 1} 144. Kf6 {2.51/12 1} b2 {-0.97/9 1} 145. Qxb2 {
3.65/12 1} Kc4 {-0.96/10 1} 146. Bg1 {3.17/10 1} Rh3 {-0.73/9 1} 147. Ke7 {
3.81/9 1} Bcd5 {-0.42/11 1} 148. Qd4+ {3.65/11 1} Kb3 {-0.55/13 1} 149. Qd1+ {
3.69/12 1} Ka2 {-0.51/13 1} 150. Bd4 {3.65/13 1} Ka3 {-0.53/11 1} 151. Qc1+ {
3.78/12 1} Ka4 {-0.51/13 1} 152. Qb2 {3.98/13 1} Rxh6 {0.00/12 1} 153. Bc5 {
4.12/10 1} Rh7+ {0.00/15 1} 154. Kf6 {2.74/13 1} Rb7 {0.00/15 1} 155. Qa3+ {
2.66/11 1} Kb5 {0.00/15 1} 156. Ke5 {2.43/12 1} Kc6 {0.00/15 1} 157. Bd4 {
1.46/13 1} Rd7 {0.00/15 1} 158. Qc5+ {2.86/12 1} Kb7 {0.00/15 1} 159. Bg1 {
1.93/12 1} Bc6 {0.51/11 1} 160. Kf6 {2.09/13 1} Bed5 {0.00/15 1} 161. Qb6+ {
2.16/13 1} Kc8 {0.00/13 1} 162. Bh2 {1.35/11 1} Rf7+ {0.00/18 1} 163. Kg5 {
0.59/12 1} Kd7 {0.00/18 1} 164. Qc7+ {0.80/12 1} Ke8 {0.00/23 1} 165. Qb8+ {
0.73/12 1} Ke7 {0.00/24 1} 166. Qe5+ {0.56/13 1} Kf8 {0.00/25 1} 167. Qh8+ {
0.73/13 1} Ke7 {0.00/34 1} 168. Bg1 {0.27/13 1} Rf1 {1.00/10 1} 169. Bc5+ {
0.90/13 1} Kd7 {0.60/15 1} 170. Qh7+ {0.19/14 1} Bf7 {0.75/12 1} 171. Qd3+ {
-0.15/14 1} Kc7 {1.08/13 1} 172. Qd6+ {0.67/14 1} Kb7 {1.06/14 1} 173. Qe7+ {
0.86/13 1} Kc8 {0.66/15 1} 174. Kh6 {0.15/14 1} Bc4 {1.12/12 1} 175. Qa7 {
0.34/13 1} Bb7 {0.84/11 1} 176. Bd4 {0.24/12 1} Bcd5 {0.99/12 1} 177. Kg7 {
0.00/13 1} Kd7 {1.26/11 1} 178. Qc5 {0.00/13 1} Ke6 {1.33/13 1} 179. Be3 {
0.00/12 1} Bbc6 {1.50/11 1} 180. Bf2 {0.00/12 1} Rb1 {1.10/10 1} 181. Bg3 {
1.40/12 1} Rb7+ {0.00/15 1} 182. Kh8 {0.65/13 1} Kd7 {0.00/17 1} 183. Bh2 {
0.75/12 1} Ke6 {0.00/21 1} 184. Qd6+ {0.74/12 1} Kf5 {0.00/27 1} 185. Qf4+ {
1.65/14 1} Kg6 {0.00/25 1} 186. Qg4+ {0.99/13 1} Kf6 {0.00/22 1} 187. Qh4+ {
0.76/14 1} Kg6 {0.00/25 1} 188. Qg3+ {0.35/16 1} Kf7 {0.00/24 1} 189. Bg1 {
0.26/13 1} Be4 {0.60/10 1} 190. Bc5 {0.12/13 1} Ke6 {1.29/12 1} 191. Qh3+ {
0.37/13 1} Kd5 {1.58/14 1} 192. Qe3 {-0.15/14 1} Rh7+ {1.38/12 1} 193. Kg8 {
-0.15/20 1} Ke6 {0.97/11 1} 194. Kf8 {-0.15/15 1} Rh8+ {1.63/11 1} 195. Kg7 {
-0.15/24 1} Rh5 {0.61/13 1} 196. Bd4 {-0.15/15 1} Bcd5 {1.80/9 1} 197. Kf8 {
-0.15/15 1} Rf5+ {0.00/13 1} 198. Kg7 {-0.15/16 1} Rf1 {0.00/16 1} 199. Qh3+ {
-0.15/18 1} Rf5 {0.00/24 1} 200. Kh6 {-0.15/18 1} Kd7 {0.00/19 1} 201. Kg7 {
-0.15/21 1} Ke6 {0.00/20 1} 202. Kh6 {-0.15/34 1} Kf7 {normal} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
Such a chess game, to me is a "Picasso" or "Van Gogh" of chess... Pure artistry...
Can you imagine playing that game as black? It's witchcraft!
The Most Interesting Chess Game Ever?
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Re: The Most Interesting Chess Game Ever?
My all time favorite -
[pgn][Event ""]
[Site "Calcutta"]
[Date "1886.??.??"]
[Round ""]
[White "Steel"]
[Black "Unknown"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Opening "C25 Vienna: Steinitz Gambit, Zukertort Defense"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4 exf4 4. d4 Qh4+ 5. Ke2 d5 6. exd5 Bg4+ 7. Nf3 O-O-O 8. dxc6 Bc5 9. cxb7+ Kb8 10. Nb5 Nf6 11. c3 Rhe8+ 12. Kd3 Bf5+ 13. Kc4 Be6+ 14. Kxc5 a5 15. Nxc7 Qh5+ 16. Ne5 Nd7+ 17. Kb5 Qxd1 18. Bxf4 Qxa1 19. Ka6 Nxe5 20. Nxe8 f6 21. dxe5 f5 22. Be3 Rxe8 23. Bb5 Qxh1 24. Ba7+ Kc7 25. Bc5 Rd8 26. Ka7 1-0[/pgn]
It's said it was a fake game. It's not without errors also. Nevertheless....
[pgn][Event ""]
[Site "Calcutta"]
[Date "1886.??.??"]
[Round ""]
[White "Steel"]
[Black "Unknown"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Opening "C25 Vienna: Steinitz Gambit, Zukertort Defense"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4 exf4 4. d4 Qh4+ 5. Ke2 d5 6. exd5 Bg4+ 7. Nf3 O-O-O 8. dxc6 Bc5 9. cxb7+ Kb8 10. Nb5 Nf6 11. c3 Rhe8+ 12. Kd3 Bf5+ 13. Kc4 Be6+ 14. Kxc5 a5 15. Nxc7 Qh5+ 16. Ne5 Nd7+ 17. Kb5 Qxd1 18. Bxf4 Qxa1 19. Ka6 Nxe5 20. Nxe8 f6 21. dxe5 f5 22. Be3 Rxe8 23. Bb5 Qxh1 24. Ba7+ Kc7 25. Bc5 Rd8 26. Ka7 1-0[/pgn]
It's said it was a fake game. It's not without errors also. Nevertheless....
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Re: The Most Interesting Chess Game Ever?
If Black hadn't underpromoted he would have had two rooks and a pawn for the queen, although afterBrendanJNorman wrote:When Henny played Rb5 and Bd2 trapping the black queen, and black had to give up the Q for a knight
18.Bxf1 Nxb5 19.e5 (a disorganizing zwischenzug) ...Ne4 (trying to get rid of White's two-bishops advantage) 20.Qxe4
White has a much better game, thanks to his centralized queen, two bishops in a wide-open position and Black's difficulty in developing his queenside.
For me, the underpromotion is the most interesting thing about this game. After it Black is plain lost and White's inability to convert could be only attributed to the bullet time control. Or perhaps your Henny charactor needs more tweaking. ;)
Rather strong terms for a bullet engine-vs.-engine game. I wonder if you have seen any of these:BrendanJNorman wrote:Such a chess game, to me is a "Picasso" or "Van Gogh" of chess... Pure artistry...
Hamppe--Meitner, Vienna 1872 AKA The Immortal Draw
Bronstein--Rojahn, Moscow Olympiad 1956
Nezhmetdinov--Chernikov, Rostov 1962
Portisch--Tal, Amsterdam Interzonal 1964
The last two are in particular mindboggling. The Nezh game features a positional sacrifice of the queen for a minor piece right out of the opening. In the other game Tal is down a rook and two minors for three pawns by move 29.
Other good candidates are Reti--Alekhine, Baden-Baden 1925 and Tal--Panno, Portoroz Interzonal 1958 but I presume you should be well familiar with these.
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Re: The Most Interesting Chess Game Ever?
Brendan
Thank for sharing that game involving games with two bishops of same color.
They're extremely hard to find and may only occur once every 1,000,000 games.
Lichess analysis - https://lichess.org/Dl20ToxH#33
Thank for sharing that game involving games with two bishops of same color.
They're extremely hard to find and may only occur once every 1,000,000 games.
Lichess analysis - https://lichess.org/Dl20ToxH#33
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Re: The Most Interesting Chess Game Ever?
Makes no difference to me whether it's a fake game or not - it's fantastic!Rebel wrote:My all time favorite -
[pgn][Event ""]
[Site "Calcutta"]
[Date "1886.??.??"]
[Round ""]
[White "Steel"]
[Black "Unknown"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Opening "C25 Vienna: Steinitz Gambit, Zukertort Defense"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4 exf4 4. d4 Qh4+ 5. Ke2 d5 6. exd5 Bg4+ 7. Nf3 O-O-O 8. dxc6 Bc5 9. cxb7+ Kb8 10. Nb5 Nf6 11. c3 Rhe8+ 12. Kd3 Bf5+ 13. Kc4 Be6+ 14. Kxc5 a5 15. Nxc7 Qh5+ 16. Ne5 Nd7+ 17. Kb5 Qxd1 18. Bxf4 Qxa1 19. Ka6 Nxe5 20. Nxe8 f6 21. dxe5 f5 22. Be3 Rxe8 23. Bb5 Qxh1 24. Ba7+ Kc7 25. Bc5 Rd8 26. Ka7 1-0[/pgn]
It's said it was a fake game. It's not without errors also. Nevertheless....
How would you create such a personality in ProDeo 2.6?
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Re: The Most Interesting Chess Game Ever?
Yep, I'm aware of the "truth" of the position of course...but...tpoppins wrote:If Black hadn't underpromoted he would have had two rooks and a pawn for the queen, although after 18.Bxf1 Nxb5 19.e5 (a disorganizing zwischenzug) ...Ne4 (trying to get rid of White's two-bishops advantage) 20.Qxe4 White has a much better game, thanks to his centralized queen, two bishops in a wide-open position and Black's difficulty in developing his queenside.
It takes two to create a brilliancy. I never claimed either side played perfectly and in fact, we can see from the average TCEC game that the closer to "perfection" chess gets, the more boring.
I'm the type that can enjoy the beauty of a completely composed game or study, so long as it has the right combination of aesthetic elements, so the odd mistake or missed defense is no issue to me.
Of course. The oddity that is two bishops of the SAME color and a rook, fighting a queen and bishop - and managing to keep the initiative, is what gives this game it's flavor. Also, the artistic sequence of moves (as in the move choices in the order they came)after Rb5 (obviously he seen that his queen was about to be trapped) ...hxg3 Bd2 etc - just very artistic to me.tpoppins wrote:For me, the underpromotion is the most interesting thing about this game. After it Black is plain lost and White's inability to convert could be only attributed to the bullet time control. Or perhaps your Henny charactor needs more tweaking.
Especially since the Scorpion personality (named after the Mortal Kombat character ) considered itself better around this point.
Yes! As a chess coach of 11 years now, these games are all my bread an butter. I'm familiar with them all. Some of them are really mind-boggling and I often use them to inspire my "too positional/cautious" students.tpoppins wrote:Rather strong terms for a bullet engine-vs.-engine game. I wonder if you have seen any of these:
Hamppe--Meitner, Vienna 1872 AKA The Immortal Draw
Bronstein--Rojahn, Moscow Olympiad 1956
Nezhmetdinov--Chernikov, Rostov 1962
Portisch--Tal, Amsterdam Interzonal 1964
The last two are in particular mindboggling. The Nezh game features a positional sacrifice of the queen for a minor piece right out of the opening. In the other game Tal is down a rook and two minors for three pawns by move 29.
Other good candidates are Reti--Alekhine, Baden-Baden 1925 and Tal--Panno, Portoroz Interzonal 1958 but I presume you should be well familiar with these.
One thing I must mention however, is something Uly and I were discussing recently on here...
That is, the weird habit of computer chess people having one set of standards for chess engines, and another for humans.
Several of the games above for example, contain poor defense that in effect, rewards the daring play of our hero.
Don't get me started on guys like Anderssen and Morphy, many of whose opponents were absolutely pathetic by today's standards.
The time control of 1-1 on my MacBook Pro with these engines is undoubtably enough to produce still even higher (much higher) quality of games (and defense!) than ANY of Morphy/Anderssen's opponent's and probably any of Tal's opponents as well.
For me, computer chess is not about a scientific endeavor.
The engine, GUI, opening books etc are tools for the creation of chess beauty, and if one can call a Tal game (with imperfect defense) beautiful, we should apply that same standard to engine games as well.
We should look at the game itself, ignoring (even deliberately forgetting) who the players were.
For some reason when we see a Tal, Alekhine or Nezh game, we just say "wow! such a genius" but when we see a nice engine game, we throw it in a GUI and compare with Stockfish for "errors" - and anything with errors is to be scorned.
I think this is flawed thinking, especially when considering deliberately weakened engine personalities.
Beauty is beauty...regardless of the players...and in chess, it takes mistakes to create beauty.
Twenty or so years ago, if we seen a computer program make a positional pawn sac (even if unsound), we'd have been spouting about how amazing this engine is that can play "master level chess and still sacrifice material".
Chess System Tal is weaker than both engines in the above game, for example.
Anyway, we all have our own treasure we find in chess, and such things are usually subjective.
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Re: The Most Interesting Chess Game Ever?
Nordlandia wrote:Brendan
Thank for sharing that game involving games with two bishops of same color.
They're extremely hard to find and may only occur once every 1,000,000 games.
Lichess analysis - https://lichess.org/Dl20ToxH#33
Yes very unusual and interesting. Thanks for the analysis!
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Re: The Most Interesting Chess Game Ever?
BrendanJNorman wrote:Hey guys,
I just witnessed a game on my PC in which, once it'd caught my attention, left me glued to the screen until it's completion.
When Henny played Rb5 and Bd2 trapping the black queen, and black had to give up the Q for a knight - I was about to adjudicate the game - but then I looked twice...
What the hell??
[pgn][Event "Charactors"]
[Site "MacBook Pro Early 2015"]
[Date "2018.01.11"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Rodent III Henny"]
[Black "Rodent III Scorpion"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B37"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[PlyCount "404"]
[EventDate "2018.??.??"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6 5. c4 Bg7 6. Nc2 Qb6 {0.81/14 2} 7.
Nc3 {0.13/13 2} Bxc3+ {0.64/14 2} 8. bxc3 {-0.04/13 2} Nf6 {0.69/14 2} 9. f3 {
0.26/14 2} Qa5 {0.68/13 2} 10. Be2 {0.26/13 2} h5 {0.65/13 2} 11. O-O {
0.47/13 2} h4 {0.81/13 2} 12. Be3 {0.59/13 2} Qxc3 {0.62/14 2} 13. Rb1 {
0.78/14 2} h3 {0.54/13 2} 14. Rb5 {0.84/13 2} hxg2 {0.77/13 2} 15. Bd2 {
1.09/13 2} Qxc2 {0.66/16 2} 16. Qxc2 {1.27/13 2} Nd4 {0.59/18 2} 17. Qd3 {
1.44/14 2} gxf1=B {0.57/17 2} 18. Qxd4 {1.75/16 2} Bxe2 {1.95/14 2} 19. Re5 {
1.70/14 2} d6 {-0.06/12 2} 20. Rxe7+ {1.98/15 2} Kxe7 {0.00/16 2} 21. Bg5 {
1.75/14 2} Kd7 {0.00/16 2} 22. Bxf6 {2.31/14 2} Re8 {-0.27/14 2} 23. c5 {
2.50/15 2} Re6 {-1.25/16 2} 24. Qa4+ {2.46/13 2} Kc7 {-1.01/17 2} 25. cxd6+ {
2.04/14 2} Rxd6 {-0.87/12 1} 26. Be5 {2.19/14 2} Be6 {-0.83/14 1} 27. Qd4 {
2.24/17 1} Rad8 {-0.93/15 1} 28. Qc5+ {2.46/13 1} Kb8 {-0.96/17 1} 29. Bxd6+ {
2.29/16 1} Ka8 {-0.90/17 1} 30. Be5 {2.35/15 1} Rc8 {-0.74/15 1} 31. Qe3 {
2.16/15 1} Bb5 {-0.78/14 1} 32. a3 {2.10/14 1} b6 {-0.60/14 1} 33. Kf2 {
2.10/15 1} Kb7 {-0.67/14 1} 34. Qd2 {2.13/15 1} Rc5 {-0.82/16 1} 35. Bd6 {
2.16/17 1} Rc4 {-0.74/16 1} 36. h4 {2.15/15 1} Ka6 {-0.84/17 1} 37. Bb8 {
2.14/15 1} Rc8 {-0.80/16 1} 38. Be5 {2.10/17 1} Rc5 {-0.72/16 1} 39. Bd4 {
2.13/16 1} Rc4 {-0.83/17 1} 40. Ke3 {2.10/17 1} Ra4 {-0.82/17 1} 41. Qb2 {
2.13/16 1} Rc4 {-0.80/15 1} 42. Bf6 {2.09/17 1} Ra4 {-0.80/17 1} 43. Kf4 {
2.14/16 1} Bd3 {-0.81/15 1} 44. Bc3 {2.34/15 1} Rc4 {-0.95/16 1} 45. Qd2 {
2.23/14 1} Bb1 {-1.00/15 1} 46. a4 {2.66/14 1} f5 {-1.39/12 1} 47. Ke5 {
2.72/13 1} Rc6 {-0.74/12 1} 48. a5 {2.66/12 1} fxe4 {-0.98/12 1} 49. fxe4 {
2.40/12 1} Bb3 {-0.74/13 1} 50. axb6 {3.11/14 1} Re6+ {-0.68/13 1} 51. Kf4 {
2.21/16 1} Rxe4+ {-0.76/13 1} 52. Kg5 {2.48/14 1} axb6 {-0.57/13 1} 53. Qd8 {
2.43/13 1} B1c2 {-0.57/15 1} 54. Kh6 {2.73/12 1} Re6 {-0.58/15 1} 55. Bd4 {
2.75/13 1} Kb5 {-0.55/14 1} 56. Kg5 {2.78/13 1} Be4 {-0.55/14 1} 57. Qc7 {
2.71/13 1} Rc6 {-0.62/14 1} 58. Qe5+ {2.84/13 1} Bbd5 {-0.62/14 1} 59. Be3 {
2.74/14 1} Rc4 {-0.65/15 1} 60. Kh6 {2.78/13 1} Rc6 {-0.63/14 1} 61. Qd4 {
2.77/13 1} Ka6 {-0.55/16 1} 62. Qa4+ {2.86/14 1} Kb7 {-0.63/17 1} 63. Qa1 {
2.84/14 1} Re6 {-0.61/14 1} 64. Qb2 {2.80/14 1} Bc4 {-0.62/15 1} 65. Qg7+ {
2.81/14 1} Ka6 {-0.57/14 1} 66. Qc7 {2.83/14 1} Bed5 {-0.58/16 1} 67. Bf2 {
2.87/14 1} Rc6 {-0.55/16 1} 68. Qe7 {2.76/14 1} Re6 {-0.64/15 1} 69. Qd8 {
2.77/14 1} Be4 {-0.59/15 1} 70. Qc8+ {2.77/14 1} Kb5 {-0.61/16 1} 71. Qd7+ {
2.86/13 1} Bc6 {-0.62/15 1} 72. Qd4 {2.78/15 1} B6d5 {-0.54/15 1} 73. Qa1 {
2.75/13 1} Bb3 {-0.65/15 1} 74. Qc3 {2.75/13 1} Rc6 {-0.62/16 1} 75. Qd3+ {
2.84/14 1} Bdc4 {-0.57/15 1} 76. Qd7 {2.84/14 1} Bc2 {-0.61/15 1} 77. Kg7 {
2.73/13 1} B2b3 {-0.59/15 1} 78. Qa7 {2.75/13 1} Bc2 {-0.62/16 1} 79. Qa1 {
2.75/14 1} Bd5 {-0.56/14 1} 80. Qa3 {2.77/13 1} Bce4 {-0.61/14 1} 81. Bd4 {
2.74/14 1} Rc4 {-0.61/15 1} 82. Be3 {2.71/13 1} Rc2 {-0.54/15 1} 83. Qa1 {
2.81/14 1} Rc4 {-0.64/16 1} 84. Qb2+ {2.78/13 1} Rb4 {-0.50/13 1} 85. Qe2+ {
2.86/14 1} Kc6 {-0.67/14 1} 86. Qa6 {3.33/14 1} Rb3 {-0.61/14 1} 87. Bg1 {
3.74/13 1} Rb4 {-0.83/13 1} 88. Qa7 {4.06/12 1} Rb1 {-0.54/15 1} 89. Bh2 {
3.19/13 1} Kc5 {-0.37/12 1} 90. Qa4 {3.54/13 1} b5 {-0.38/12 1} 91. Qa6 {
3.35/12 1} Kb4 {0.00/14 1} 92. Bd6+ {3.02/12 1} Kc4 {0.00/15 1} 93. Qa3 {
2.99/14 1} b4 {0.00/13 1} 94. Qa2+ {3.07/12 1} Kd4 {0.00/17 1} 95. Qf2+ {
2.57/13 1} Kc3 {0.00/17 1} 96. Be5+ {2.79/14 1} Kd3 {0.00/15 1} 97. Qd4+ {
2.87/13 1} Kc2 {0.00/16 1} 98. Bd6 {3.14/12 1} b3 {0.21/12 1} 99. Qf2+ {
2.50/13 1} Kd3 {0.00/15 1} 100. Bb4 {2.39/12 1} Rd1 {0.00/16 1} 101. Ba5 {
2.83/12 1} Kc4 {0.00/12 1} 102. Qe3 {2.63/12 1} Rd3 {0.00/14 1} 103. Qc1+ {
3.61/13 1} Kd4 {0.00/14 1} 104. Bb6+ {3.46/11 1} Ke5 {0.00/18 1} 105. Qg5+ {
4.66/11 1} Kd6 {0.00/14 1} 106. Qd8+ {4.16/14 1} Ke6 {0.00/17 1} 107. Qf6+ {
3.30/13 1} Kd7 {0.00/21 1} 108. Qe5 {3.23/13 1} Bc6 {0.00/14 1} 109. Ba5 {
3.51/13 1} Bcd5 {0.00/12 1} 110. Qc7+ {3.59/12 1} Ke6 {-0.12/17 1} 111. Qf7+ {
3.49/13 1} Kd6 {-0.90/20 1} 112. Qf6+ {3.23/14 1} Kd7 {-1.22/13 1} 113. Kh6 {
3.76/14 1} Rf3 {0.00/15 1} 114. Qd8+ {4.10/11 1} Kc6 {0.00/14 1} 115. Qe8+ {
2.87/12 1} Kc5 {0.00/14 1} 116. Qe7+ {2.79/13 1} Kb5 {0.00/19 1} 117. Qa3 {
2.75/13 1} Kc4 {0.00/17 1} 118. Qb4+ {2.86/14 1} Kd3 {0.00/23 1} 119. Qc3+ {
3.10/14 1} Ke2 {0.00/26 1} 120. Qe1+ {2.67/13 1} Kd3 {0.00/26 1} 121. Qd2+ {
3.15/14 1} Kc4 {0.00/26 1} 122. Qc1+ {3.15/14 1} Kd3 {0.00/16 1} 123. Qd1+ {
2.94/12 1} Kc4 {0.00/30 1} 124. Qd2 {2.78/13 1} Bc6 {0.00/16 1} 125. Kg7 {
3.66/13 1} Bcd5 {0.00/14 1} 126. Qc1+ {2.02/13 1} Kb5 {0.75/13 1} 127. Qa3 {
2.08/13 1} g5 {0.19/14 1} 128. h5 {2.66/11 1} Kc6 {0.23/11 1} 129. Qa4+ {
2.54/12 1} Kd6 {0.29/12 1} 130. Kh6 {2.32/12 1} g4 {0.04/11 1} 131. Qb4+ {
2.25/11 1} Kd7 {0.00/14 1} 132. Qb6 {2.33/12 1} Bc6 {0.00/14 1} 133. Qd4+ {
2.71/11 1} Bcd5 {0.00/14 1} 134. Qg7+ {2.17/11 1} Kc6 {0.00/13 1} 135. Qc7+ {
5.15/11 1} Kb5 {0.00/21 1} 136. Qb6+ {3.48/11 1} Kc4 {0.00/22 1} 137. Qb4+ {
3.02/13 1} Kd3 {0.00/22 1} 138. Qd2+ {2.51/13 1} Kc4 {0.00/22 1} 139. Kg5 {
2.59/12 1} g3 {0.00/11 1} 140. h6 {3.39/12 1} Bc6 {0.00/11 1} 141. Qb4+ {
3.41/12 1} Kd5 {0.00/13 1} 142. Bc7 {2.22/11 1} g2 {0.00/11 1} 143. Bh2 {
2.22/9 1} Rg3+ {0.00/11 1} 144. Kf6 {2.51/12 1} b2 {-0.97/9 1} 145. Qxb2 {
3.65/12 1} Kc4 {-0.96/10 1} 146. Bg1 {3.17/10 1} Rh3 {-0.73/9 1} 147. Ke7 {
3.81/9 1} Bcd5 {-0.42/11 1} 148. Qd4+ {3.65/11 1} Kb3 {-0.55/13 1} 149. Qd1+ {
3.69/12 1} Ka2 {-0.51/13 1} 150. Bd4 {3.65/13 1} Ka3 {-0.53/11 1} 151. Qc1+ {
3.78/12 1} Ka4 {-0.51/13 1} 152. Qb2 {3.98/13 1} Rxh6 {0.00/12 1} 153. Bc5 {
4.12/10 1} Rh7+ {0.00/15 1} 154. Kf6 {2.74/13 1} Rb7 {0.00/15 1} 155. Qa3+ {
2.66/11 1} Kb5 {0.00/15 1} 156. Ke5 {2.43/12 1} Kc6 {0.00/15 1} 157. Bd4 {
1.46/13 1} Rd7 {0.00/15 1} 158. Qc5+ {2.86/12 1} Kb7 {0.00/15 1} 159. Bg1 {
1.93/12 1} Bc6 {0.51/11 1} 160. Kf6 {2.09/13 1} Bed5 {0.00/15 1} 161. Qb6+ {
2.16/13 1} Kc8 {0.00/13 1} 162. Bh2 {1.35/11 1} Rf7+ {0.00/18 1} 163. Kg5 {
0.59/12 1} Kd7 {0.00/18 1} 164. Qc7+ {0.80/12 1} Ke8 {0.00/23 1} 165. Qb8+ {
0.73/12 1} Ke7 {0.00/24 1} 166. Qe5+ {0.56/13 1} Kf8 {0.00/25 1} 167. Qh8+ {
0.73/13 1} Ke7 {0.00/34 1} 168. Bg1 {0.27/13 1} Rf1 {1.00/10 1} 169. Bc5+ {
0.90/13 1} Kd7 {0.60/15 1} 170. Qh7+ {0.19/14 1} Bf7 {0.75/12 1} 171. Qd3+ {
-0.15/14 1} Kc7 {1.08/13 1} 172. Qd6+ {0.67/14 1} Kb7 {1.06/14 1} 173. Qe7+ {
0.86/13 1} Kc8 {0.66/15 1} 174. Kh6 {0.15/14 1} Bc4 {1.12/12 1} 175. Qa7 {
0.34/13 1} Bb7 {0.84/11 1} 176. Bd4 {0.24/12 1} Bcd5 {0.99/12 1} 177. Kg7 {
0.00/13 1} Kd7 {1.26/11 1} 178. Qc5 {0.00/13 1} Ke6 {1.33/13 1} 179. Be3 {
0.00/12 1} Bbc6 {1.50/11 1} 180. Bf2 {0.00/12 1} Rb1 {1.10/10 1} 181. Bg3 {
1.40/12 1} Rb7+ {0.00/15 1} 182. Kh8 {0.65/13 1} Kd7 {0.00/17 1} 183. Bh2 {
0.75/12 1} Ke6 {0.00/21 1} 184. Qd6+ {0.74/12 1} Kf5 {0.00/27 1} 185. Qf4+ {
1.65/14 1} Kg6 {0.00/25 1} 186. Qg4+ {0.99/13 1} Kf6 {0.00/22 1} 187. Qh4+ {
0.76/14 1} Kg6 {0.00/25 1} 188. Qg3+ {0.35/16 1} Kf7 {0.00/24 1} 189. Bg1 {
0.26/13 1} Be4 {0.60/10 1} 190. Bc5 {0.12/13 1} Ke6 {1.29/12 1} 191. Qh3+ {
0.37/13 1} Kd5 {1.58/14 1} 192. Qe3 {-0.15/14 1} Rh7+ {1.38/12 1} 193. Kg8 {
-0.15/20 1} Ke6 {0.97/11 1} 194. Kf8 {-0.15/15 1} Rh8+ {1.63/11 1} 195. Kg7 {
-0.15/24 1} Rh5 {0.61/13 1} 196. Bd4 {-0.15/15 1} Bcd5 {1.80/9 1} 197. Kf8 {
-0.15/15 1} Rf5+ {0.00/13 1} 198. Kg7 {-0.15/16 1} Rf1 {0.00/16 1} 199. Qh3+ {
-0.15/18 1} Rf5 {0.00/24 1} 200. Kh6 {-0.15/18 1} Kd7 {0.00/19 1} 201. Kg7 {
-0.15/21 1} Ke6 {0.00/20 1} 202. Kh6 {-0.15/34 1} Kf7 {normal} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
Such a chess game, to me is a "Picasso" or "Van Gogh" of chess... Pure artistry...
Can you imagine playing that game as black? It's witchcraft!
Hahahah! It took me until the endgame to realize Black had two light-squared bishops. Fantastic game!
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Re: The Most Interesting Chess Game Ever?
Somehow they defended better than Bishops of different colors, didn't they?carldaman wrote:Hahahah! It took me until the endgame to realize Black had two light-squared bishops. Fantastic game!
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Re: The Most Interesting Chess Game Ever?
They became what I call "chain-link bishops" - bishops of the same color that "link" together and form a self-protection force. Combined with other pieces they can coordinate pretty effectively.Ovyron wrote:Somehow they defended better than Bishops of different colors, didn't they?carldaman wrote:Hahahah! It took me until the endgame to realize Black had two light-squared bishops. Fantastic game!
I've used such motifs in bughouse chess and crazyhouse at times.