To say that i'm impressed is a understatement. Shocking.
Take note that SF was at 64 cores!
25 wins for white and only 3 wins for black. is such a big difference what you would expect ?
When I have been claiming, the stronger the engines, the more they score with white, everyone has been laughing.
At some point, there will be only 11111111111111111s.
Werewolf wrote:1 GB hash allows them to say SF nps are really high while hiding that they’ve weakened its search.
I would like to see a rematch at a better time control, much more hash, all tablebases, and a tournament quality opening book and the latest asmfish.
I bet it’d be much closer then.
If you look at results of B40 Sicilian difference is only 38.5Elo.
With the lastest Brainfish using Cerebellum limited to for example 12 moves, 32GB hash, 6-men Syzygy and 60'+15'' TC I'm pretty confident Alpha0 would not win, at the best result would be indecisive.
If I had access to the training games, I could construct the book that would give SF +100 Elo advantage without much trouble.
While I understand why you would like to do that (so would I), I believe it will never happen.
This is surely not the original intend of the team that worked on AlphaZero.
They just proved that by letting an IA develop within a few hours it could get more than a match for a regular program on which several thousands of hours were spent....
Unfortunately, the proof is done and they will likely move to the next things. SF with opening book, this or that..... is most probably of little interest to them.
Did this published paper give any estimate for perfect chess? One figure has 3500 limit or +100 from SF8. Are we near? Where is Kai, when we need him ?
corres wrote:2, Alpha Zero did not start from zero knowledge about chess
because it was [fed] a lot of human games at start up.
Where did you see that? My impression is the opposite, they explicitly did not use any prior human chess knowledge besides the basic rules, hence the "Zero" in AlphaZero.
personally i have no doubt that the "4 hours thing" is the truth...and even if its 4 days, thats no difference imo....the fact, that that "process" manages to get to such a ultra-high level of playingstrengh is nothing other than revolutionary and thats simply a scary, very scary, fact that we are faced with
Wahrheiten sind Illusionen von denen wir aber vergessen haben dass sie welche sind.
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