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What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?
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Dr.Wael Deeb



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PostPost subject: Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4?    Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:11 am Reply to topic Reply with quote
Denis P. Mendoza wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
What's wrong to show that an awesome commercial engine is tested wrong against another engine and that it's losing because of broken test conditions?
Where do you see the insult here.... Shocked


I think Dr. Wael Deeb has a point regarding his observation. Pavel"s tournament link here http://www.chesspraga.cz/engine-turn.htm will explain why he feels this way. Pavel uses a different method in matching engines. He usually uses opening books that may be an advantage to another, which should have been a neutral book to be fair. But I believe that Pavel's reasons are unintentional. Since he builds opening books for his favorite engines like Spike (for example), on his he gives it a special treatment on his matches to test how well his book performs on any opponent engine he matches.

I believe that opinions will vary from either side, depending on your point of view. It's still computerchess but on a different perspective. I hope people will cool down a little bit since each of us are as respectable in our own right


Thank you sir for the constructive and logical point of view Very Happy
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What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:31 am
      Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Mike Scheidl Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:01 am
            Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:43 am
                  Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Mike Scheidl Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:54 am
                        Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:15 am
                              Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Eelco de Groot Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:04 pm
                                    Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Leto Atreides Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:10 pm
                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Eelco de Groot Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:43 pm
                                                Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:24 pm
                                                      Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:27 pm
                                                            Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Uri Blass Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:34 pm
                                                                  Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:17 am
                                                                        Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:44 am
                                                                              Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:47 am
                                                                                    Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:51 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Uri Blass Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:55 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:58 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:06 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Tony Thomas Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:11 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:20 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:40 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:55 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:06 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Denis P. Mendoza Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:01 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:11 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:35 am
                                                                                          This thread has been moderated. Graham Banks Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:08 pm
                                                                                          Re: This thread has been moderated. Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:42 pm
                                                                                          Re: This thread has been moderated. Graham Banks Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:49 pm
                                                                                          Re: This thread has been moderated. Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:00 pm
                                                                                          Re: This thread has been moderated. Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:04 pm
                                                                                          Re: This thread has been moderated. Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:20 pm
                                                                                          Re: This thread has been moderated. Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:23 pm
                                                                                          Re: This thread has been moderated. Shaun Brewer Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:50 pm
                                                                                          Re: This thread has been moderated. Shaun Brewer Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:35 pm
                                                                                          Re: This thread has been moderated. Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:36 pm
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:05 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:08 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:13 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:15 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:59 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:07 am
                                                                              Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:49 am
                                                      Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Eelco de Groot Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:27 pm
                                                            Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:13 pm
                                                                  Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:11 pm
                                                                        Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Eelco de Groot Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:43 am
                                                                              Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:27 am
                                                                                    Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Eelco de Groot Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:12 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Eelco de Groot Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:26 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:49 am
                                                                              Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:31 pm
                                                                        Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:15 am
                                                                              Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Graham Banks Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:28 am
                                                                                    Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:45 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:48 am
                                                                              Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:46 am
                                                                                    Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Tony Thomas Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:50 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Terry McCracken Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:54 am
                                                                                          Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:57 am
                              Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Uri Blass Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:16 pm
                                    My experience with Toga II 1.3x4 Stephen Ham Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:28 pm
                                          Re: My experience with Toga II 1.3x4 Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:31 pm
                                          Re: My experience with Toga II 1.3x4 Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:35 pm
      Some more data to the fire :-) Ingo Bauer Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:27 am
            Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Dr.Wael Deeb Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:35 am
                  Re: Some more data to the fire :-) nuff Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:41 am
                        Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Spock Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:03 am
                        Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Ingo Bauer Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:50 pm
                        Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:55 pm
                              Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Ingo Bauer Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:15 pm
                              Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Graham Banks Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:07 pm
                                    Re: Some more data to the fire :-) nuff Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:54 am
                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:59 am
                                                Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:36 pm
                                                      Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Ingo Bauer Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:47 pm
                                                            Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Uri Blass Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:02 pm
                                                                  Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Ingo Bauer Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:25 pm
                                                            Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Tony Thomas Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:03 pm
                                                            Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:55 pm
                                                                  Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Ingo Bauer Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:30 pm
                                                                        Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:37 pm
                                                                              Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Uri Blass Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:14 pm
                                                                                    Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:34 am
                                                                              Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Graham Banks Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:00 pm
                                                                                    Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:36 am
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Graham Banks Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:44 am
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Uri Blass Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:58 am
                                                                              Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:06 am
                                                                                    Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Terry McCracken Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:00 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:19 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Terry McCracken Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:21 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:23 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Terry McCracken Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:28 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Eelco de Groot Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:33 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Terry McCracken Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:17 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:19 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Terry McCracken Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:26 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Eelco de Groot Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:42 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Terry McCracken Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:44 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:43 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:34 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:59 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Graham Banks Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:21 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:26 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Uri Blass Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:26 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:01 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:13 am
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Ernest Bonnem Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:31 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:52 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Ernest Bonnem Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:54 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Enrico Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:41 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:04 am
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Marc Lacrosse Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:35 am
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:08 am
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Thorsten Czub Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:22 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some more data to the fire :-) Terry McCracken Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:27 pm
      Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Shaun Brewer Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:32 pm
            Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Denis P. Mendoza Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:39 am
            Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Ernest Bonnem Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:58 pm
                  Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? Shaun Brewer Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:54 pm
      Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? It is Windows-only engine glorfindel Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:02 pm
            Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? It is Windows-only engine Tony Thomas Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:42 am
                  Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? It is Windows-only engine glorfindel Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:24 pm
                        Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? It is Windows-only engine Vempele Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:59 pm
            Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? It is Windows-only engine nas Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:19 pm
                  Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? It is Windows-only engine Eelco de Groot Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:52 pm
                        Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? It is Windows-only engine nas Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:00 am
                              Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? It is Windows-only engine Eelco de Groot Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:47 am
                                    Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? It is Windows-only engine Jouni Uski Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:16 am
                  Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? It is Windows-only engine Graham Banks Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:52 pm
                        Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? It is Windows-only engine nas Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:01 am
                              Re: What is New in Toga II 1.3x4? It is Windows-only engine glorfindel Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:41 am
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