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Post subject: Re: 4'+2" UPDATE: Loop 13.5 is here... matches underwa Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:03 am |
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In the Pruned List, which consists only of the "best/strongest" engine versions that have been tested, Loop 13.5.32 2CPU takes over the #2 position from HIARCS 11.1 MP UCI. It is a very, very close, and statistically speaking, the engines are identical in strength.
From a stability standpoint, Loop did not crash once in 1,400 games, so that makes me very happy.
What is going to be interesting on a go forward basis is seeing whether or not engines like HIARCS, Loop, and Rybka maintain the amount that they improve from old version to new version.
HIARCS 11.1 MP UCI was a 35 Elo improvement over HIARCS 11 MP UCI according to the FULL LIST. That's about a 1.3% improvement.
Loop 13.5.32 2CPU was a 25 Elo improvement over LoopMP 12.32 2CPU, a .92% improvement.
Rybka 2.3.1 mp 32-bit was a 11 Elo improvement over Rybka 2.2 mp 32-bit, a .39% improvement.
What might this indicate? Well, it indicates that it could get harder and harder to squeeze Elo improvement out of an existing engine. Sort of a law of diminishing returns in the programming world, I guess.
Let's speculate for fun! What if HIARCS team squeezes out a .75% improvement in their next version over HIARCS 11.1 MP UCI? That would put them at 2751 Elo.
Now, what if Vas and company eek out the same .39% improvement in their next version over Rybka 2.3.1 mp 32-bit? That would put them at 2839 Elo.
Rybka still would have a commanding lead in the Elo race, but it would be shrinking.
What if the HIARCS team pulls off another fine improvement, and eeks out 1.3% instead of the previously assumed .75%? That puts HIARCS at 2813 Elo. AHA! Now things start to get interesting!
As a fan of computer chess engines, I truly hope that one or two engines can continue to make the kinds of strides that they have been able to make lately. I'd like to see the performance gap closed a bit between Rybka and the rest of the field. I bet the playchess.com server would become a more interesting place if Rybka were no longer a clear #1. Remember the days when Shredder was #1? It was #1, but it wasn't a DOMINANT #1, so folks could toss out HIARCS, Fritz, Chess Tiger, Junior, etc. and still be competitive.
We'll see what develops!
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Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws
1 Rybka 2.3.1 mp 32-bit : 2825 17 17 1400 75.9 % 2626 25.0 %
2 Loop 13.5.32 2CPU : 2730 15 15 1400 63.7 % 2632 34.9 %
3 HIARCS 11.1 MP UCI : 2729 15 15 1400 63.5 % 2633 33.6 %
4 Deep Fritz 10 : 2721 19 19 960 60.2 % 2649 29.2 %
5 Naum 2.1 MP : 2665 18 18 960 51.8 % 2653 36.5 %
6 Deep Shredder 10 UCI : 2664 19 19 960 51.6 % 2653 28.8 %
7 Deep Junior 10.1 : 2636 18 18 960 47.3 % 2654 31.1 %
8 Toga II 1.2.1a : 2633 18 18 960 46.9 % 2655 32.1 %
9 Fruit 2.2.1 : 2628 18 18 960 46.2 % 2655 32.8 %
10 Spike 1.2 Turin : 2626 18 18 960 45.8 % 2655 36.8 %
11 Glaurung 1.2 SMP : 2597 19 19 960 41.4 % 2657 28.6 %
12 Chess Tiger 2007 UCI : 2557 19 19 960 35.7 % 2659 30.3 %
13 Scorpio 1.91 2CPU : 2541 19 19 960 33.5 % 2660 32.3 %
14 Deep Pharaon 3.5.1 : 2536 19 19 960 32.9 % 2661 29.3 %
15 Deep Frenzee 3.0 : 2509 20 20 960 29.3 % 2662 24.1 % |
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Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:42 am |
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