do you think that the ELO LIST guys switch learning off ?
what is the value of 100 diced elo list games ?
(did you get the impression that i talked about you?)
If so it seems you either underestimate a lot of people or you are a bit too confident about yourself!
is this sentence meant as a question or as an insult ?
i do NOT read it ingo.
i was speaking in general.
if the elo-list guys switch learning OFF (that would imply they
change the DEFAULT settings of the programs), they would
get doubles and tripples and and and.
than they would have to throw those games out.
this would imply they do book-keeping .
Whats left of learning and book influence? Nothing!
in the rating lists there is much left.
in a tournament where the opponents change each game,
the learning/book-line-learning mechanism cannot be as succesful.
and here we have the reason tournaments get different results
than matches eng-eng.
you say toga1.2.1a is stronger than 1.3x4. i do say the opposite.
if i would have had ANY tournament saying the opposite,
i would post it.
if it would be random, 1.2.1 would be stronger in one tournament, and 1.3 in the other. but this does not happen.
another example
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Motor Punkte RyToHiPxFrLoSpPyGlthCoToNoPr S-B
01: Rybka v2.3.lk.x64 8,5/9 · 1 1 1 1 = 1 1 1 1 30,25
02: TogaII1.3x4 [default] 7,5/9 · = = 1 1 1 1 1 = 1 26,00
03: Hiarcs11.1UCI 7,5/9 · = 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 19,00
04: program x 6,0/9 0 = = · = = 1 1 1 1 20,00
05: Fruit-061115a 6,0/9 0 = = · 1 = 1 = 1 1 18,75
06: LoopMP 12.32 5,0/9 0 0 = · = = 1 1 = 1 13,50
07: Spike1.2 4,5/8 0 0 1 · = = = 1 1 16,25
08: program y 4,5/9 = 0 0 0 = = · 1 1 1 15,50
09: Glaurung121-EM64T 3,0/8 0 0 0 = = = · = 1 9,25
10: theBaron1.8.1Uci 3,0/9 0 0 0 0 = 0 · 1 = 1 6,00
11: Colossus2006f 2,0/9 0 0 = 0 0 0 0 · = 1 4,75
12: TogaII1.2.1a 1,5/8 0 0 0 = 0 0 = = · 5,00
13: Now0704 1,0/8 0 = 0 0 0 0 = · 0 5,25
14: ProDeo1.2 1,0/9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 · 1,00
61 Partien von 182 gespielt
Intel6300, 25'+10", ponder:off
the only difference between these tournaments is, that the later
has the faster hardware, and the slower time controls.
and the gap between the results is even bigger.
this could indicate that with more computation time the gap increases.