Movei00_8_403 and Movei00_8_418 in Chess960

[pichy]

This is with candidatefactor 3 so far the score is even against Slowchess Blitz.

Movei00_8_421 with Candidatefactor 3 so far is stronger than the previous 418 and much more stronger than 403

Engine Score Mo Sl S-B
1: Movei00_8_421 6.5/13 =111=0=00=01= 42.25
1: Slow 6.5/13 =000=1=11=10= 42.25

13 of 40 games played
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Level: Blitz 5/1
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My result with fixed number of nodes candidatefactor 3 and changes in pawn value against the default:

1)58-42 400,000 nodes per move.
2)52.5-47.5 200,000 nodes per move.

I do not believe that it is stronger than glaurung and maybe glaurung does not like your hardware or does not like movei.

It may be interesting to test movei against other programs with similiar strength

possible opponents that are supposed to be slightly weaker than glaurung1.2.1 but stronger than movei based on the ccrl list are

1)Slow Chess Blitz WV2.1
2)Alaric 0704
3)Bright-0.1d
4)Delfi5.1

I am just started to test Movei421 versus Slow Chess Blitz WV2.1, but this was the final result versus Glaurung 1.2.1.


This is with candidatefactor 3 a very impressive result for Movei421

Engine Score Mo Gl S-B
1: Movei00_8_421 24.5/40 ········································ 11100111=11101101=101=00100==0=10=110111 379.75
2: Glaurung 15.5/40 00011000=00010010=010=11011==1=01=001000 ········································ 379.75

40 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 5/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
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[Uri Blass]

result is impressive but unfortunately my result against fruit2.0 is not so impressive and 421 with the same personality lost against fruit2.0 at 1+1

result after 99 games was 53.5-45.5 for fruit2.0

[pichy]

result is impressive but unfortunately my result against fruit2.0 is not so impressive and 421 with the same personality lost against fruit2.0 at 1+1

result after 99 games was 53.5-45.5 for fruit2.0

Movei 421 probably does NOT score so great versus Fruit 2.0 and Slow Chess Blitz Wv 2.1

Engine Score Sl Mo S-B
1: Slow 24.0/40 ········································ =000=1=11=10==11=0=0===0111=11=10101=111 384.00
2: Movei00_8_421 16.0/40 =111=0=00=01==00=1=1===1000=00=01010=000 ········································ 384.00

40 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 10/0
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
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[Uri Blass]

result is impressive but unfortunately my result against fruit2.0 is not so impressive and 421 with the same personality lost against fruit2.0 at 1+1

result after 99 games was 53.5-45.5 for fruit2.0

Movei 421 probably does NOT score so great versus Fruit 2.0 and Slow Chess Blitz Wv 2.1

Engine Score Sl Mo S-B
1: Slow 24.0/40 ········································ =000=1=11=10==11=0=0===0111=11=10101=111 384.00
2: Movei00_8_421 16.0/40 =111=0=00=01==00=1=1===1000=00=01010=000 ········································ 384.00

40 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 10/0
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
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Thanks

Maybe your 4 6 10 personality can score better.
In my tests in 1+1 time control it scored better than the default against fruit2.0 after 30 games.

result after 30 games was 18-12 for movei
For comparison fruit2.0 was leading 15.5-14.5 after the same 15 positions against the default personality.

Note that the default here is not exactly the default but the personality with candidatefactore=3 and other changes.

Uri

[Spock]

I have to say, it is good seeing a thread with Chess960 in the title that extends to 4 pages !!

[Uri Blass]

result is impressive but unfortunately my result against fruit2.0 is not so impressive and 421 with the same personality lost against fruit2.0 at 1+1

result after 99 games was 53.5-45.5 for fruit2.0

Movei 421 probably does NOT score so great versus Fruit 2.0 and Slow Chess Blitz Wv 2.1

Engine Score Sl Mo S-B
1: Slow 24.0/40 ········································ =000=1=11=10==11=0=0===0111=11=10101=111 384.00
2: Movei00_8_421 16.0/40 =111=0=00=01==00=1=1===1000=00=01010=000 ········································ 384.00

40 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 10/0
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
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Thanks

Maybe your 4 6 10 personality can score better.
In my tests in 1+1 time control it scored better than the default against fruit2.0 after 30 games.

result after 30 games was 18-12 for movei
For comparison fruit2.0 was leading 15.5-14.5 after the same 15 positions against the default personality.

Note that the default here is not exactly the default but the personality with candidatefactore=3 and other changes.

Uri

final result at 1+1 was 50.5-49.5 for fruit2.0
(better than 53.5-45.5 that I had in previous match)

Uri

[pichy]

result is impressive but unfortunately my result against fruit2.0 is not so impressive and 421 with the same personality lost against fruit2.0 at 1+1

result after 99 games was 53.5-45.5 for fruit2.0

Movei 421 probably does NOT score so great versus Fruit 2.0 and Slow Chess Blitz Wv 2.1

Engine Score Sl Mo S-B
1: Slow 24.0/40 ········································ =000=1=11=10==11=0=0===0111=11=10101=111 384.00
2: Movei00_8_421 16.0/40 =111=0=00=01==00=1=1===1000=00=01010=000 ········································ 384.00

40 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 10/0
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

Thanks

Maybe your 4 6 10 personality can score better.
In my tests in 1+1 time control it scored better than the default against fruit2.0 after 30 games.

result after 30 games was 18-12 for movei
For comparison fruit2.0 was leading 15.5-14.5 after the same 15 positions against the default personality.

Note that the default here is not exactly the default but the personality with candidatefactore=3 and other changes.
final result at 1+1 was 50.5-49.5 for fruit2.0
(better than 53.5-45.5 that I had in previous match)

Uri

Can you make two different personalities one with progress 10 10 10 and the other for progress 4 6 10 and incorporate it with your candidatefactor. For instance personality with progress 10 10 10 would be candidatefactor 3 and personality with progress 4 6 10 would be candidatefactor 2 etc..

I really don't know what personality you have included with candidatefactor 3 but it is NOT the strongest versus Fruit 2.0 or Slowchess Blitz V 2.1

Here is the latest test against Fruit 2.0 which confirm what you stated before that candidatefactor 3 is NOT the strongest:

Engine Score Fr Mo S-B
1: Fruit20 24.5/38 ········································ 11=1=101=01111011011111====11=0=101000 330.75
2: Movei00_8_421 13.5/38 00=0=010=10000100100000====00=1=010111 ········································ 330.75

38 of 50 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 5/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
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final result at 1+1 was 50.5-49.5 for fruit2.0
(better than 53.5-45.5 that I had in previous match)

Uri

[Uri Blass]

result is impressive but unfortunately my result against fruit2.0 is not so impressive and 421 with the same personality lost against fruit2.0 at 1+1

result after 99 games was 53.5-45.5 for fruit2.0

Movei 421 probably does NOT score so great versus Fruit 2.0 and Slow Chess Blitz Wv 2.1

Engine Score Sl Mo S-B
1: Slow 24.0/40 ········································ =000=1=11=10==11=0=0===0111=11=10101=111 384.00
2: Movei00_8_421 16.0/40 =111=0=00=01==00=1=1===1000=00=01010=000 ········································ 384.00

40 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 10/0
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

Thanks

Maybe your 4 6 10 personality can score better.
In my tests in 1+1 time control it scored better than the default against fruit2.0 after 30 games.

result after 30 games was 18-12 for movei
For comparison fruit2.0 was leading 15.5-14.5 after the same 15 positions against the default personality.

Note that the default here is not exactly the default but the personality with candidatefactore=3 and other changes.
final result at 1+1 was 50.5-49.5 for fruit2.0
(better than 53.5-45.5 that I had in previous match)

Uri

Can you make two different personalities one with progress 10 10 10 and the other for progress 4 6 10 and incorporate it with your candidatefactor. For instance personality with progress 10 10 10 would be candidatefactor 3 and personality with progress 4 6 10 would be candidatefactor 2 etc..

I really don't know what personality you have included with candidatefactor 3 but it is NOT the strongest versus Fruit 2.0 or Slowchess Blitz V 2.1

Here is the latest test against Fruit 2.0 which confirm what you stated before that candidatefactor 3 is NOT the strongest:

Engine Score Fr Mo S-B
1: Fruit20 24.5/38 ········································ 11=1=101=01111011011111====11=0=101000 330.75
2: Movei00_8_421 13.5/38 00=0=010=10000100100000====00=1=010111 ········································ 330.75

38 of 50 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 5/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:



final result at 1+1 was 50.5-49.5 for fruit2.0
(better than 53.5-45.5 that I had in previous match)

Uri

I am not sure what you mean.

I used candidatefactor 3 together with the changes in pawn values that I sent you and together with progress 4 6 10 that I did not send you in my last test when movei lost 50.5-49.5 against fruit2.0.

I did not use progress 4 6 10 in the match that movei lost more heavily against fruit2.0
In all my tests against fruit2.0 I used candidatefactor 3 and
the same pawn_square_table that you tested:
1000 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1000 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 100 100 100 105 105 100 100 100 90 92 95 100 100 95 92 90 90 91 92 85 85 92 91 90 91 90 90 70 70 90 90 91 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0


I used movei as uci engine so I could use personality of progress 4 6 10
another possibility is to add progress 4 6 10 0 in the changes file and to use movei as winboard engine.

Uri

[pichy]

result is impressive but unfortunately my result against fruit2.0 is not so impressive and 421 with the same personality lost against fruit2.0 at 1+1

result after 99 games was 53.5-45.5 for fruit2.0

Movei 421 probably does NOT score so great versus Fruit 2.0 and Slow Chess Blitz Wv 2.1

Engine Score Sl Mo S-B
1: Slow 24.0/40 ········································ =000=1=11=10==11=0=0===0111=11=10101=111 384.00
2: Movei00_8_421 16.0/40 =111=0=00=01==00=1=1===1000=00=01010=000 ········································ 384.00

40 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 10/0
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

Thanks

Maybe your 4 6 10 personality can score better.
In my tests in 1+1 time control it scored better than the default against fruit2.0 after 30 games.

result after 30 games was 18-12 for movei
For comparison fruit2.0 was leading 15.5-14.5 after the same 15 positions against the default personality.

Note that the default here is not exactly the default but the personality with candidatefactore=3 and other changes.
final result at 1+1 was 50.5-49.5 for fruit2.0
(better than 53.5-45.5 that I had in previous match)

Uri

Can you make two different personalities one with progress 10 10 10 and the other for progress 4 6 10 and incorporate it with your candidatefactor. For instance personality with progress 10 10 10 would be candidatefactor 3 and personality with progress 4 6 10 would be candidatefactor 2 etc..

I really don't know what personality you have included with candidatefactor 3 but it is NOT the strongest versus Fruit 2.0 or Slowchess Blitz V 2.1

Here is the latest test against Fruit 2.0 which confirm what you stated before that candidatefactor 3 is NOT the strongest:

Engine Score Fr Mo S-B
1: Fruit20 24.5/38 ········································ 11=1=101=01111011011111====11=0=101000 330.75
2: Movei00_8_421 13.5/38 00=0=010=10000100100000====00=1=010111 ········································ 330.75

38 of 50 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 5/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:



final result at 1+1 was 50.5-49.5 for fruit2.0
(better than 53.5-45.5 that I had in previous match)

Uri

I am not sure what you mean.

I used candidatefactor 3 together with the changes in pawn values that I sent you and together with progress 4 6 10 that I did not send you in my last test when movei lost 50.5-49.5 against fruit2.0.

I did not use progress 4 6 10 in the match that movei lost more heavily against fruit2.0
In all my tests against fruit2.0 I used candidatefactor 3 and
the same pawn_square_table that you tested:
1000 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1000 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 100 100 100 105 105 100 100 100 90 92 95 100 100 95 92 90 90 91 92 85 85 92 91 90 91 90 90 70 70 90 90 91 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0


I used movei as uci engine so I could use personality of progress 4 6 10
another possibility is to add progress 4 6 10 0 in the changes file and to use movei as winboard engine.


I tried to do just that, and it did NOT accepted my personality changes as winboard engines. Tell me what I did wrong.


This is how my configuration settings look now, but it doesn't work as a winboard engine

Movei_changes421

progress 4 6 10 0
1000 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1000 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 100 100 100 105 105 100 100 100 90 92 95 100 100 95 92 90 90 91 92 85 85 92 91 90 91 90 90 70 70 90 90 91 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

[Uri Blass]

result is impressive but unfortunately my result against fruit2.0 is not so impressive and 421 with the same personality lost against fruit2.0 at 1+1

result after 99 games was 53.5-45.5 for fruit2.0

Movei 421 probably does NOT score so great versus Fruit 2.0 and Slow Chess Blitz Wv 2.1

Engine Score Sl Mo S-B
1: Slow 24.0/40 ········································ =000=1=11=10==11=0=0===0111=11=10101=111 384.00
2: Movei00_8_421 16.0/40 =111=0=00=01==00=1=1===1000=00=01010=000 ········································ 384.00

40 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 10/0
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

Thanks

Maybe your 4 6 10 personality can score better.
In my tests in 1+1 time control it scored better than the default against fruit2.0 after 30 games.

result after 30 games was 18-12 for movei
For comparison fruit2.0 was leading 15.5-14.5 after the same 15 positions against the default personality.

Note that the default here is not exactly the default but the personality with candidatefactore=3 and other changes.
final result at 1+1 was 50.5-49.5 for fruit2.0
(better than 53.5-45.5 that I had in previous match)

Uri

Can you make two different personalities one with progress 10 10 10 and the other for progress 4 6 10 and incorporate it with your candidatefactor. For instance personality with progress 10 10 10 would be candidatefactor 3 and personality with progress 4 6 10 would be candidatefactor 2 etc..

I really don't know what personality you have included with candidatefactor 3 but it is NOT the strongest versus Fruit 2.0 or Slowchess Blitz V 2.1

Here is the latest test against Fruit 2.0 which confirm what you stated before that candidatefactor 3 is NOT the strongest:

Engine Score Fr Mo S-B
1: Fruit20 24.5/38 ········································ 11=1=101=01111011011111====11=0=101000 330.75
2: Movei00_8_421 13.5/38 00=0=010=10000100100000====00=1=010111 ········································ 330.75

38 of 50 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 5/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:



final result at 1+1 was 50.5-49.5 for fruit2.0
(better than 53.5-45.5 that I had in previous match)

Uri

I am not sure what you mean.

I used candidatefactor 3 together with the changes in pawn values that I sent you and together with progress 4 6 10 that I did not send you in my last test when movei lost 50.5-49.5 against fruit2.0.

I did not use progress 4 6 10 in the match that movei lost more heavily against fruit2.0
In all my tests against fruit2.0 I used candidatefactor 3 and
the same pawn_square_table that you tested:
1000 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1000 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 100 100 100 105 105 100 100 100 90 92 95 100 100 95 92 90 90 91 92 85 85 92 91 90 91 90 90 70 70 90 90 91 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0


I used movei as uci engine so I could use personality of progress 4 6 10
another possibility is to add progress 4 6 10 0 in the changes file and to use movei as winboard engine.


I tried to do just that, and it did NOT accepted my personality changes as winboard engines. Tell me what I did wrong.


This is how my configuration settings look now, but it doesn't work as a winboard engine

Movei_changes421

progress 4 6 10 0
1000 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1000 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 100 100 100 105 105 100 100 100 90 92 95 100 100 95 92 90 90 91 92 85 85 92 91 90 91 90 90 70 70 90 90 91 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

The reason is that you do not have the expression
"pawn_square_table" in the right place before the numbers of the table.

If you do not like candidatefactor 3 then
you can use it with

progress 4 6 10 0
pawn_square_table 1000 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1000 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 100 100 100 105 105 100 100 100 90 92 95 100 100 95 92 90 90 91 92 85 85 92 91 90 91 90 90 70 70 90 90 91 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0


I use

pawn_square_table 1000 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1010 1000 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 130 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 100 100 100 105 105 100 100 100 90 92 95 100 100 95 92 90 90 91 92 85 85 92 91 90 91 90 90 70 70 90 90 91 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
candidatefactor 3 progress 4 6 10 0