Hiarcs v The King MP!!!

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Uri Blass
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Re: Hiarcs is on 4.5/6

Post by Uri Blass »

Harvey Williamson wrote:
Alainza wrote:Congratulations !

And good luck for the other games.

Alain
We end the night on 4.5/6 = with Zap and Rybka but if the tournament was only 6 rounds we would have won due to the way they calculate the scores v various opponents.

standings are http://www.csvn.nl/
Yes due to the unfair way they calculate the scores.

Hiarcs was white 4 times out of 6 games when rybka was white only 3 times out of 6 games but this is not considered in the table.

Hiarcs results:
1)win against Deep Sjeng white
2)win against Stoofvlees black
3)draw against Rybka white
4)draw against zap white
5)win against king black
6)draw against baron white

Rybka results:
1)draw against baron black
2)win against micromax white
3)draw against rybka black
4)win against Stoofvlees white
5)win against zap black
6)draw against Deep Sjeng white

They scored the same number of points against the common opponents and the only reason that hiarcs is considered better is because it beated the king when rybka beated micromax.

I think that the pairing that allowed it was unfair and good pairing should give rybka strong opponent in the second round and not opponent that lost.

Uri
Dariusz Orzechowski

Re: Hiarcs is on 4.5/6

Post by Dariusz Orzechowski »

Uri Blass wrote:Rybka results:
1)draw against baron black
2)win against micromax white
3)draw against rybka black
4)win against Stoofvlees white
5)win against zap black
6)draw against Deep Sjeng white
I disagree. :wink: Should be Hiarcs, not Rybka.
Harvey Williamson

Re: Hiarcs is on 4.5/6

Post by Harvey Williamson »

Uri Blass wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote:
Alainza wrote:Congratulations !

And good luck for the other games.

Alain
We end the night on 4.5/6 = with Zap and Rybka but if the tournament was only 6 rounds we would have won due to the way they calculate the scores v various opponents.

standings are http://www.csvn.nl/
Yes due to the unfair way they calculate the scores.

Hiarcs was white 4 times out of 6 games when rybka was white only 3 times out of 6 games but this is not considered in the table.

Hiarcs results:
1)win against Deep Sjeng white
2)win against Stoofvlees black
3)draw against Rybka white
4)draw against zap white
5)win against king black
6)draw against baron white

Rybka results:
1)draw against baron black
2)win against micromax white
3)draw against rybka black
4)win against Stoofvlees white
5)win against zap black
6)draw against Deep Sjeng white

They scored the same number of points against the common opponents and the only reason that hiarcs is considered better is because it beated the king when rybka beated micromax.

I think that the pairing that allowed it was unfair and good pairing should give rybka strong opponent in the second round and not opponent that lost.

Uri
We have not played Stoofvlees
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Graham Banks
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Re: Hiarcs is on 4.5/6

Post by Graham Banks »

Harvey Williamson wrote:if the tournament was only 6 rounds we would have won due to the way they calculate the scores v various opponents.
The world is full of ifs and buts! :P

I'm sure that things will even themselves out over the 9 rounds.

Whatever happens, I hope that those who miss out on top spot don't use the pairing rules as an excuse.
The fact is that in a short tournament, anything can happen really.

All the best to everybody for the final three rounds.
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Re: Hiarcs is on 4.5/6

Post by Uri Blass »

correct
posted too fast without checking the data.

checking the data shows that
you played isichess and isichess scored more than Stoofvlees

still both rybka and hiarcs scored the same against the same opponents.

It is not clear what achievement is bigger because hiarcs played more with the white pieces when I admit that hiarcs played better opponents when the opponents were not the same.

Uri
Spock

Re: Hiarcs is on 4.5/6

Post by Spock »

Go Zap, my little 64-bit beauty !!!!!!!! :)
Tony Thomas

Re: Hiarcs is on 4.5/6

Post by Tony Thomas »

Spock wrote:Go Zap, my little 64-bit beauty !!!!!!!! :)
It looks to me like we are on the same boat. NO, no wait, you are that not bald headed guy sitting next to me with a lap top. :lol:
Spock

Re: Hiarcs is on 4.5/6

Post by Spock »

Tony Thomas wrote: It looks to me like we are on the same boat. NO, no wait, you are that not bald headed guy sitting next to me with a lap top. :lol:
:lol: Yes I still have some hair

This tournament will be very close, Zap, Hiarcs or Rybka could take it
Go Zap !!
Tony Thomas

Re: Hiarcs is on 4.5/6

Post by Tony Thomas »

Spock wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote: It looks to me like we are on the same boat. NO, no wait, you are that not bald headed guy sitting next to me with a lap top. :lol:
:lol: Yes I still have some hair

This tournament will be very close, Zap, Hiarcs or Rybka could take it
Go Zap !!
I've got my fingers crossed, If Zap wins it might give some motivation to Anthony to continue programming. May be Rybka, Hiarcs dudes should blunder in a game and then someone here will come out with conspiracy theories saying Anthony paid them off or something similar.