"Ursprünglich sollten die beiden Programme auf gleich starken Rechnern spielen. Auf Initiative des Deep Junior-Teams werden die Programme aber nun auf dem für jedes Team bestmöglichen Rechner antreten. Deep Junior spielt auf einem 16-Prozessor-Rechner, Deep Fritz auf einem 8-Prozessor-Rechner."
That means, initially equal hardware was the plan, but following an initiative of the Deep Junior team they will now start with the best possible computer, each.
The rest of the comment puts emphasis on the fact that it is FIDE's first computer(only) match.
The English article does not mention the hardware. I hate to say I told you so but Junior is always likely to have the stronger hardware. Even if Fritz lose the match the $40,000 they pick up and the fact that ChessBase sell both programs means its a win-win situation for ChessBase.
75+5 is the timer ; winner gets 60.000 US bucks, loser 40000 of them; originally it was the idea to make them play on equal hardware!!!; Junior team made initiative! that both may play on their best comps possible ;
This is a translation of part of the German article. Why not play the match on = hardware?
nuff wrote:They have not announced the preparation/details publicly but I would expect the Junior camp to have killer hardware, which I suspect accounts for their WCCC wins more than book/engine strength. Look at the measly Dual Intel Core 2 Duo 5160 that the Fritz camp put together to face Kramnik. Compare that to the 32 cores some guy was using in the freestyle or the quad-cores you see in the engineroom every day?
A Xeon 5160 is quad core, so it was an 8 core box. And they run at 3GHz. Not exactly "measly"
Harvey Williamson wrote:
75+5 is the timer ; winner gets 60.000 US bucks, loser 40000 of them; originally it was the idea to make them play on equal hardware!!!; Junior team made initiative! that both may play on their best comps possible ;
This is a translation of part of the German article. Why not play the match on = hardware?
Why this should matter anyway?
For seeing the actual playing strength? Well this can't happen even on equal hardware, since they will play only 6 games anyway.
So....? Is it about money? I don't think so, since recycling money inside your company can't be called a reason....
Harvey Williamson wrote:
75+5 is the timer ; winner gets 60.000 US bucks, loser 40000 of them; originally it was the idea to make them play on equal hardware!!!; Junior team made initiative! that both may play on their best comps possible ;
This is a translation of part of the German article. Why not play the match on = hardware?
Why this should matter anyway?
For seeing the actual playing strength? Well this can't happen even on equal hardware, since they will play only 6 games anyway.
So....? Is it about money? I don't think so, since recycling money inside your company can't be called a reason....
Hi George,
To people here and to the minority that read the forums and to those who would be considered experts it matters little.
If you are trying to spin the story to a wider audience then its much easier to say that all things being = this product seems better. You can use opening books in this as they are supplied with the product.
Harvey Williamson wrote:
75+5 is the timer ; winner gets 60.000 US bucks, loser 40000 of them; originally it was the idea to make them play on equal hardware!!!; Junior team made initiative! that both may play on their best comps possible ;
This is a translation of part of the German article. Why not play the match on = hardware?
Why this should matter anyway?
For seeing the actual playing strength? Well this can't happen even on equal hardware, since they will play only 6 games anyway.
So....? Is it about money? I don't think so, since recycling money inside your company can't be called a reason....
Hi George,
To people here and to the minority that read the forums and to those who would be considered experts it matters little.
If you are trying to spin the story to a wider audience then its much easier to say that all things being = this product seems better. You can use opening books in this as they are supplied with the product.
Best Wishes,
Harvey
I agree with Harvey all the way long
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Mike S. wrote:
(...) That means, initially equal hardware was the plan, but following an initiative of the Deep Junior team they will now start with the best possible computer, each.
(...) originally it was the idea to make them play on equal hardware!!!; Junior team made initiative! that both may play on their best comps possible ;
This is a translation of part of the German article.
Thanks for providing an alternative 2nd version of the translation
Mike S. wrote:
(...) That means, initially equal hardware was the plan, but following an initiative of the Deep Junior team they will now start with the best possible computer, each.
(...) originally it was the idea to make them play on equal hardware!!!; Junior team made initiative! that both may play on their best comps possible ;
This is a translation of part of the German article.
Thanks for providing an alternative 2nd version of the translation
Maybe they already know that Kramnik will not have a chance even with Xeon 5160, they would like to keep the match competitive. They even let Kramnik see the opening book of Fritz. They must have played a match privately with Kramnik and Kramnik was beaten badly that they gave Kramnik a lopsided advantage and yet he lost. The Xeon 5160 is good enough against humans, against computers they will get the fastest available.
WCCC is a short tournament and a swiss at that. If you run a short swiss tournament and compare the result to say ssdf with almost a thousand games, the result will be very different, but in comp comp hardware is a big factor, but the format of the tournament is a bigger factor
It would be better if they play the match much later this year when new processors from Intel and AMD will be released. We will have a higher quality games and we have an event to enjoy at that time.
