Rybka to play a 2700+ human opponent in mid September....

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

....Yeah,don't get so excited,yet another stupid handicap match....
It's just getting worse,why a 2700+ Fide player would agree to play like a jerk against Rybka

From Rybka forum....
Vadim Milov, World #28 at 2705 FIDE (2750 USCF), has agreed to play a handicap match with Rybka in mid-September. The plan is for an eight game match at FIDE time controls (90'+30"), to consist of two games of normal chess in which Milov gets the White pieces, and six handicap games (two games at pawn and move, meaning Rybka removes f7 pawn, and four games at odds of the Exchange (Rybka removes White rook from a1, Milov removes Black knight from b8).

This is not chess,it's an ugly parody of the chess playing game

[Steve B]

....Yeah,don't get so excited,yet another stupid handicap match....
It's just getting worse,why a 2700+ Fide player would agree to play like a jerk against Rybka

This is not chess,it's an ugly parody of the chess playing game

Totally Agree
these handicap games are not chess but rather a spectacle
might just as well play Monopoly or any another board game
i wonder if all of these handicap matches are not really designed to show Rybka as invincible at the expense of the GM
as to why would a GM agree to this ??
well .. sadly ..i guess the GM's need the money so they are willing to be offered up as human sacrifices to the Rybkian God
the last "real" match was against GM Benjamin who only received draw odds for purposes of scoring and prize fund distribution(and he also had White in every game)
that match ended with the GM scoring two draws and six losses
perhaps a stronger GM could have scored better i do not know..

Cattle To The Slaughter Regards
Steve

[plattyaj]

This is not chess,it's an ugly parody of the chess playing game

To paraprase ... It's chess, Jim, but not as we know it.

Yeah, don't look at it as a chess game, look at it as marketing. Doesn't seem so bad then.

Andy.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

....Yeah,don't get so excited,yet another stupid handicap match....
It's just getting worse,why a 2700+ Fide player would agree to play like a jerk against Rybka

This is not chess,it's an ugly parody of the chess playing game

Totally Agree
these handicap games are not chess but rather a spectacle
might just as well play Monopoly or any another board game
i wonder if all of these handicap matches are not really designed to show Rybka as invincible at the expense of the GM
as to why would a GM agree to this ??
well .. sadly ..i guess the GM's need the money so they are willing to be offered up as human sacrifices to the Rybkian God
the last "real" match was against GM Benjamin who only received draw odds for purposes of scoring and prize fund distribution(and he also had White in every game)
that match ended with the GM scoring two draws and four losses
perhaps a stronger GM could have scored better i do not know..

Cattle To The Slaughter Regards
Steve

Quite righteous you are Steve....
Don't they have any sense of integrity,I can understand the need of a cach issue,but still....
Play the game like a man following the standard chess game rules and whatever the outcome is,so let it be....
I am mearly playing around 2100-2150 and here is a game played against a 2700+ engine with the black pieces,I will not name the engine,but the point is,can't a professional 2700+ GM do better than me ....Damn he can....


[Event "DCCW_RL 2008"]
[Date "2008.09.13"]
[White "xxx_2727"]
[Black "Dr.Wael Deeb_2132"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C43"]
[Opening "Russian Game"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bd3 d5 5. Nxe5 Nd7
6. Nxd7 Bxd7 7. O-O Bd6 8. Qh5 Nf6 9. Re1+ Be7 10. Qe5 Be6
{11s} 11. Bf4 {+0.24/18 10s} Rc8 12. Bf5 Bxf5 13. Qxf5 O-O
14. Nc3 c6 15. Rad1 Re8 16. Bg5 h6 17. Bh4 Nd7 18. Bxe7
Rxe7 19. Qh3 Nb6 20. b3 Rxe1+ 21. Rxe1 Qd7 22. Qxd7 Nxd7
23. f4 Kf8 24. Kf2 Re8 25. Rxe8+ Kxe8 26. g4 g5 27. Kg3 Ke7
28. h4 f6 29. Nd1 Nf8 30. f5 Kd6 31. a4 a5 32. Nc3 Nd7 1/2-1/2

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

This is not chess,it's an ugly parody of the chess playing game

To paraprase ... It's chess, Jim, but not as we know it.

Yeah, don't look at it as a chess game, look at it as marketing. Doesn't seem so bad then.

Andy.

Yeah,it looks like a dog,it barks like a dog but it can also fly

[Steve B]

I am mearly playing around 2100-2150 and here is a game played against a 2700+ engine with the black pieces,I will not name the engine,but the point is,can't a professional 2700+ GM do better than me ....Damn he can....


[Event "DCCW_RL 2008"]
[Date "2008.09.13"]
[White "xxx_2727"]
[Black "Dr.Wael Deeb_2132"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C43"]
[Opening "Russian Game"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bd3 d5 5. Nxe5 Nd7
6. Nxd7 Bxd7 7. O-O Bd6 8. Qh5 Nf6 9. Re1+ Be7 10. Qe5 Be6
{11s} 11. Bf4 {+0.24/18 10s} Rc8 12. Bf5 Bxf5 13. Qxf5 O-O
14. Nc3 c6 15. Rad1 Re8 16. Bg5 h6 17. Bh4 Nd7 18. Bxe7
Rxe7 19. Qh3 Nb6 20. b3 Rxe1+ 21. Rxe1 Qd7 22. Qxd7 Nxd7
23. f4 Kf8 24. Kf2 Re8 25. Rxe8+ Kxe8 26. g4 g5 27. Kg3 Ke7
28. h4 f6 29. Nd1 Nf8 30. f5 Kd6 31. a4 a5 32. Nc3 Nd7 1/2-1/2

Some thing tells me the Engine was..
Rybka Regards

Steve
PS..and not a "Father" like silly draw either
those Father games are also nothing more then spectacles ..which are showing the human players abitiy to manipulate his mouse to make 100 moves in 5 seconds

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

I am mearly playing around 2100-2150 and here is a game played against a 2700+ engine with the black pieces,I will not name the engine,but the point is,can't a professional 2700+ GM do better than me ....Damn he can....


[Event "DCCW_RL 2008"]
[Date "2008.09.13"]
[White "xxx_2727"]
[Black "Dr.Wael Deeb_2132"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C43"]
[Opening "Russian Game"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bd3 d5 5. Nxe5 Nd7
6. Nxd7 Bxd7 7. O-O Bd6 8. Qh5 Nf6 9. Re1+ Be7 10. Qe5 Be6
{11s} 11. Bf4 {+0.24/18 10s} Rc8 12. Bf5 Bxf5 13. Qxf5 O-O
14. Nc3 c6 15. Rad1 Re8 16. Bg5 h6 17. Bh4 Nd7 18. Bxe7
Rxe7 19. Qh3 Nb6 20. b3 Rxe1+ 21. Rxe1 Qd7 22. Qxd7 Nxd7
23. f4 Kf8 24. Kf2 Re8 25. Rxe8+ Kxe8 26. g4 g5 27. Kg3 Ke7
28. h4 f6 29. Nd1 Nf8 30. f5 Kd6 31. a4 a5 32. Nc3 Nd7 1/2-1/2

Some thing tells me the Engine was..
Rybka Regards

Steve

Yeah,an older commercial version though,series 1.xx
Can't deny your open mind regards,
Dr.D

P.S.See why I am pissed off,the GM in question can smash me before making my 20th if I happen to play with him in theory,so why the chicken alike terms of play when facing Rybka

[Dariusz Orzechowski]

Milov should propose a chessboxing match. Without any handicap.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Milov should propose a chessboxing match. Without any handicap.

Yeah,starting with boxing first so get himself knocked down and can't move to the next stage:the stupid handicap match

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

I am mearly playing around 2100-2150 and here is a game played against a 2700+ engine with the black pieces,I will not name the engine,but the point is,can't a professional 2700+ GM do better than me ....Damn he can....


[Event "DCCW_RL 2008"]
[Date "2008.09.13"]
[White "xxx_2727"]
[Black "Dr.Wael Deeb_2132"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C43"]
[Opening "Russian Game"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bd3 d5 5. Nxe5 Nd7
6. Nxd7 Bxd7 7. O-O Bd6 8. Qh5 Nf6 9. Re1+ Be7 10. Qe5 Be6
{11s} 11. Bf4 {+0.24/18 10s} Rc8 12. Bf5 Bxf5 13. Qxf5 O-O
14. Nc3 c6 15. Rad1 Re8 16. Bg5 h6 17. Bh4 Nd7 18. Bxe7
Rxe7 19. Qh3 Nb6 20. b3 Rxe1+ 21. Rxe1 Qd7 22. Qxd7 Nxd7
23. f4 Kf8 24. Kf2 Re8 25. Rxe8+ Kxe8 26. g4 g5 27. Kg3 Ke7
28. h4 f6 29. Nd1 Nf8 30. f5 Kd6 31. a4 a5 32. Nc3 Nd7 1/2-1/2

Some thing tells me the Engine was..
Rybka Regards

Steve
PS..and not a "Father" like silly draw eitherthose Father games are also nothing more then spectacles ..which are showing the human players abitiy to manipulate his mouse to make 100 moves in 5 seconds

No,not at all,it's one of my well trained weapons against strong engines having the black pieces....a safe and quite line of the russian defence and even the mighty Rybka running as a MP engine can't slaughter me....

Here is the final position:

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