Shredder 12 and Junior 11

[Mike S.]

I wonder what happened with the cooperation between the Junior programmers and ICC. In March 2008, ICC announced that Junior 11 would be commercially available soon after match against GM Illescas, which was in June(*).

http://www.chessclub.com/mailing/2008/05e/news.html

If J11 existed as a working version in June already, I could only speculate why it hasn't been released yet (or has it?). It looks like the most recent news about J11 which Google finds, are from the Illescas match.

*) from http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2008/06/2 ... ep-junior/

GM Illescas played computer assisted, with Junior 10.

[Date "2008.06.05"]
[White "Illescas, Miquel"]
[Black "Deep Junior 11"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 Nc6 3. c4 Bg4 4. cxd5 Bxf3 5. gxf3 Qxd5 6. e3 e6 7. Nc3 Qh5 8.
f4 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 O-O-O 10. Bg2 f5 11. Ke2 Nf6 12. Bd2 Ne7 13. Rac1 Ned5 14.
Nxd5 Nxd5 15. h4 c6 16. Rhg1 Rg8 17. h5 Be7 18. Bf3 Kd7 19. a3 a6 20. Kd3 Ra8
21. Bd1 a5 22. f3 Bd6 23. Bb3 a4 24. Ba2 Raf8 25. Rg2 Rf7 26. Rcg1 Be7 27. Ba5
Ra8 28. Be1 Rg8 29. Bd2 Bd6 30. Rg3 Be7 31. R3g2 Bd6 32. Rg3 Be7 33. R3g2
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[Date "2008.06.05"]
[White "Deep Junior 11"]
[Black "Illescas , Miquel"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. d3 Bc5 5. c3 O-O 6. O-O
d5 7. exd5 Qxd5 8. Bc4 Qd6 9. b4 Bb6 10. Qe2 Bg4 11. Nbd2 Rfe8 12. Ne4 Nxe4 13.
dxe4 Be6 14. a4 a6 15. Ra2 Bxc4 16. Qxc4 Qe6 17. Qxe6 Rxe6 18. Rd1 Ree8 19. a5
Ba7 20. Rd7 Rad8 21. Rad2 Rxd7 22. Rxd7 Rc8 23. Kf1 f6 24. Ke2 Nb8 25. Rd3 Kf7
26. Nd2 Ke6 27. Nc4 Nc6 28. Rh3 Rh8 29. g4 Ne7 30. f4 exf4 31. Bxf4 Ng6 32. Bg3
h6 33. Rh5 Rd8 34. e5 fxe5 35. Nxe5 Nxe5 36. Rxe5+ Kf7 37. h4 c6 38. h5 Re8 39.
Rxe8 Kxe8 40. Be5 Kf7 41. c4 Bg1 42. Bc3 Bh2 43. Ke3 Bd6 44. Ke4 g6 45. Ke3
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[IWB]

Hello

Shredder WM version is MP I think.

NO !

Shredder WM Bonn is SP !

Silvian

Sorry, but this is wrong!

Shredder Bonn is MP, better than Shredder 11 and especially better with more cores than the normal Shredder 11 (or DS11)!

Bye
Ingo

[Sylwy]

Hello

Shredder WM version is MP I think.

NO !

Shredder WM Bonn is SP !

Silvian

Sorry, but this is wrong!

Shredder Bonn is MP, better than Shredder 11 and especially better with more cores than the normal Shredder 11 (or DS11)!

Bye
Ingo

WOW ! You are right !
Was a confusion !
Sorry !

Silvian

[Sylwy]

I wonder what happened with the cooperation between the Junior programmers and ICC. In March 2008, ICC announced that Junior 11 would be commercially available soon after match against GM Illescas, which was in June(*).

http://www.chessclub.com/mailing/2008/05e/news.html

If J11 existed as a working version in June already, I could only speculate why it hasn't been released yet (or has it?). It looks like the most recent news about J11 which Google finds, are from the Illescas match.

*) from http://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2008/06/2 ... ep-junior/

GM Illescas played computer assisted, with Junior 10.

[Date "2008.06.05"]
[White "Illescas, Miquel"]
[Black "Deep Junior 11"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 Nc6 3. c4 Bg4 4. cxd5 Bxf3 5. gxf3 Qxd5 6. e3 e6 7. Nc3 Qh5 8.
f4 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 O-O-O 10. Bg2 f5 11. Ke2 Nf6 12. Bd2 Ne7 13. Rac1 Ned5 14.
Nxd5 Nxd5 15. h4 c6 16. Rhg1 Rg8 17. h5 Be7 18. Bf3 Kd7 19. a3 a6 20. Kd3 Ra8
21. Bd1 a5 22. f3 Bd6 23. Bb3 a4 24. Ba2 Raf8 25. Rg2 Rf7 26. Rcg1 Be7 27. Ba5
Ra8 28. Be1 Rg8 29. Bd2 Bd6 30. Rg3 Be7 31. R3g2 Bd6 32. Rg3 Be7 33. R3g2
1/2-1/2

[Date "2008.06.05"]
[White "Deep Junior 11"]
[Black "Illescas , Miquel"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. d3 Bc5 5. c3 O-O 6. O-O
d5 7. exd5 Qxd5 8. Bc4 Qd6 9. b4 Bb6 10. Qe2 Bg4 11. Nbd2 Rfe8 12. Ne4 Nxe4 13.
dxe4 Be6 14. a4 a6 15. Ra2 Bxc4 16. Qxc4 Qe6 17. Qxe6 Rxe6 18. Rd1 Ree8 19. a5
Ba7 20. Rd7 Rad8 21. Rad2 Rxd7 22. Rxd7 Rc8 23. Kf1 f6 24. Ke2 Nb8 25. Rd3 Kf7
26. Nd2 Ke6 27. Nc4 Nc6 28. Rh3 Rh8 29. g4 Ne7 30. f4 exf4 31. Bxf4 Ng6 32. Bg3
h6 33. Rh5 Rd8 34. e5 fxe5 35. Nxe5 Nxe5 36. Rxe5+ Kf7 37. h4 c6 38. h5 Re8 39.
Rxe8 Kxe8 40. Be5 Kf7 41. c4 Bg1 42. Bc3 Bh2 43. Ke3 Bd6 44. Ke4 g6 45. Ke3
1/2-1/2

Hi !


A lot of commercial chess engines cannot compete with Rybka,Naum & Thinker( a free release ). This is for me the real explanation !

Money for what ??????? Only for pedigree ? NO !

Regards,
Silvian