I will be impressed when someone comes up with a software program that annotates like a human.
Chessmaster and Chessbase still annotate the same as many previous versions ago.
Will Shredder ever return ...
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It's a great idea an certainly an important asset to any top program. It would be great if the A.I. in this area is dramatically improved and in many respects as important as the playing strength of the program itself.Kirk wrote:I will be impressed when someone comes up with a software program that annotates like a human.
Chessmaster and Chessbase still annotate the same as many previous versions ago.
I'm sure it's not easy to have a computer annotate like a Grandmaster.
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Thanks Terry!
One would have to have a unique word and phrase parser and be able to equate positions with specific phrases
certainly would be an interesting AI diversion from increasing a programs strength a few more points
One would have to have a unique word and phrase parser and be able to equate positions with specific phrases
certainly would be an interesting AI diversion from increasing a programs strength a few more points
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"not easy" is not the right term. Alpha/beta doesn't even provide the information necessary to start on this problem. It is specifically designed to find the best move with minimum effort. Which loses all the details of why a move is bad or good, because we don't care when actually playing a game...Terry McCracken wrote:It's a great idea an certainly an important asset to any top program. It would be great if the A.I. in this area is dramatically improved and in many respects as important as the playing strength of the program itself.Kirk wrote:I will be impressed when someone comes up with a software program that annotates like a human.
Chessmaster and Chessbase still annotate the same as many previous versions ago.
I'm sure it's not easy to have a computer annotate like a Grandmaster.
It would have to start from an entirely different search framework, which is a real problem...
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Understood...this is an area that needs to be addressed, it would make a great program, fantastic and in my opinion worth the effort.bob wrote:"not easy" is not the right term. Alpha/beta doesn't even provide the information necessary to start on this problem. It is specifically designed to find the best move with minimum effort. Which loses all the details of why a move is bad or good, because we don't care when actually playing a game...Terry McCracken wrote:It's a great idea an certainly an important asset to any top program. It would be great if the A.I. in this area is dramatically improved and in many respects as important as the playing strength of the program itself.Kirk wrote:I will be impressed when someone comes up with a software program that annotates like a human.
Chessmaster and Chessbase still annotate the same as many previous versions ago.
I'm sure it's not easy to have a computer annotate like a Grandmaster.
It would have to start from an entirely different search framework, which is a real problem...
Food for Thought Regards,
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Whose effort?Terry McCracken wrote:...this is an area that needs to be addressed, it would make a great program, fantastic and in my opinion worth the effort.
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In my opinion, it would be worth the programmers effort. Allot of endusers would pay for a program that offered this feature. I know I would.Marek Soszynski wrote:Whose effort?Terry McCracken wrote:...this is an area that needs to be addressed, it would make a great program, fantastic and in my opinion worth the effort.
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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Strange enough Ted,the very same thought crossed my mind a few days ago when I was looking at the updated CCRL rating list....It's sad indeed but hey....welcome to the real world....
BTW,there was a saying in Bulgaria when I was living there and it goes somehting like this:
Life is like a carrot....one day it's in your hand....ten days it's in........
Sorry,you have to guess it yourself
....ten days it's in the Shredder Jaimes
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Jaimes Conda wrote:Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Strange enough Ted,the very same thought crossed my mind a few days ago when I was looking at the updated CCRL rating list....It's sad indeed but hey....welcome to the real world....
BTW,there was a saying in Bulgaria when I was living there and it goes somehting like this:
Life is like a carrot....one day it's in your hand....ten days it's in........
Sorry,you have to guess it yourself
....ten days it's in the Shredder Jaimes
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Exactly....AdminX wrote:Jaimes Conda wrote:Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Strange enough Ted,the very same thought crossed my mind a few days ago when I was looking at the updated CCRL rating list....It's sad indeed but hey....welcome to the real world....
BTW,there was a saying in Bulgaria when I was living there and it goes somehting like this:
Life is like a carrot....one day it's in your hand....ten days it's in........
Sorry,you have to guess it yourself
....ten days it's in the Shredder Jaimes
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