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kgburcham
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Sorry---I needed one more drink

Post by kgburcham »

I had to purchase Deep Fritz 11.
I am sorry, I will enter CC rehab tommorrow.
Here is a test position for you to compare yours to DF11.


[D] 2b1qrk1/5p1p/pBn3p1/1p2p3/4P2N/bBP1Q3/P4PPP/3R2K1 w - - 0 1

Deep fritz 11:

1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 f5 4.Rh3 Kf7 5.Qh7+ Kf6 6.Qh4+ Kg7 7.Bxe6 Qxe6 8.exf5 Qg8 9.Qh6+ Kf7 10.fxg6+ Ke6 11.c4 Be7 12.cxb5 axb5 13.Rd3
+/- (1.14) Depth: 25/51 00:11:30 5073mN
1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 f5 4.Rh3 Kf7 5.Qh7+ Kf6 6.Qh4+ Kg7 7.Bxe6 Qxe6 8.exf5 Qxa2 9.Qh7+ Kf6 10.Qxg6+ Ke7 11.Rh7+ Rf7 12.Rxf7+ Qxf7 13.Qxc6 Qxf5
+- (1.46) Depth: 26/49 00:14:32 6453mN
1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 Ne7 4.Bc7 Bc1 5.Qxc1 Qc6 6.Bxe5 Qxe4 7.Re3 Qf5 8.Bd6 Re8 9.Bxe6 fxe6 10.c4 bxc4 11.Re5
+- (1.57) Depth: 27/49 00:18:09 8123mN
1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 Ne7 4.Bxe6 fxe6 5.Rh3 Kf7 6.Qh7+ Kf6 7.Be3 Nf5 8.exf5 exf5 9.Bh6 Rg8 10.Bg5+ Ke6 11.Qb7 Qb8 12.Qxa6+ Qd6 13.Qxb5
+- (1.48) Depth: 28/47 00:23:07 10442mN
royb
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Re: Sorry---I needed one more drink

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kgburcham wrote:I had to purchase Deep Fritz 11.
I am sorry, I will enter CC rehab tommorrow.
Here is a test position for you to compare yours to DF11.


[D] 2b1qrk1/5p1p/pBn3p1/1p2p3/4P2N/bBP1Q3/P4PPP/3R2K1 w - - 0 1

Deep fritz 11:

1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 f5 4.Rh3 Kf7 5.Qh7+ Kf6 6.Qh4+ Kg7 7.Bxe6 Qxe6 8.exf5 Qg8 9.Qh6+ Kf7 10.fxg6+ Ke6 11.c4 Be7 12.cxb5 axb5 13.Rd3
+/- (1.14) Depth: 25/51 00:11:30 5073mN
1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 f5 4.Rh3 Kf7 5.Qh7+ Kf6 6.Qh4+ Kg7 7.Bxe6 Qxe6 8.exf5 Qxa2 9.Qh7+ Kf6 10.Qxg6+ Ke7 11.Rh7+ Rf7 12.Rxf7+ Qxf7 13.Qxc6 Qxf5
+- (1.46) Depth: 26/49 00:14:32 6453mN
1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 Ne7 4.Bc7 Bc1 5.Qxc1 Qc6 6.Bxe5 Qxe4 7.Re3 Qf5 8.Bd6 Re8 9.Bxe6 fxe6 10.c4 bxc4 11.Re5
+- (1.57) Depth: 27/49 00:18:09 8123mN
1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 Ne7 4.Bxe6 fxe6 5.Rh3 Kf7 6.Qh7+ Kf6 7.Be3 Nf5 8.exf5 exf5 9.Bh6 Rg8 10.Bg5+ Ke6 11.Qb7 Qb8 12.Qxa6+ Qd6 13.Qxb5
+- (1.48) Depth: 28/47 00:23:07 10442mN
Here is Bright 0.4d running in a Virtual Machine (32-bit and one CPU):

11 +0.96 1.Nf3 Bg4 2.c4 Qb8 3.c5 Bb2 4.Rd6 Nd4 5.Nxd4 Bxd4 6.Qh6 (6.51)
11 +1.07 1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 Ne7 4.Bxe6 fxe6 5.Rh3 Kf7 6.Qh7+ Kf6 7.Be3 Nf5 8.exf5 exf5 (6.85)
12 +1.07 1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 Ne7 4.Bxe6 fxe6 5.Rh3 Kf7 6.Qh7+ Kf6 7.Be3 Nf5 8.exf5 exf5 (7.23)
13 +1.47 1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 f5 4.Rh3 Kf7 5.exf5 Bxb3 6.Qxg6+ Ke7 7.Rh7+ Rf7 8.axb3 Rxh7 9.f6+ Kd7 10.Qf5+ Qe6 11.Qxh7+ Ne7 (10.63)
14 +1.47 1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 f5 4.Rh3 Kf7 5.exf5 Bxb3 6.Qxg6+ Ke7 7.Rh7+ Rf7 8.axb3 Rxh7 9.f6+ Kd7 10.Qf5+ Qe6 11.Qxh7+ Ne7 (12.96)
15 +1.47 1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 f5 4.Rh3 Kf7 5.exf5 Bxb3 6.Qxg6+ Ke7 7.Rh7+ Rf7 8.axb3 Rxh7 9.f6+ Kd7 10.Qf5+ Qe6 11.Qxh7+ Ne7 (18.60)
16 +1.27 1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 f5 4.Rh3 Kf7 5.exf5 Bxb3 6.fxg6+ Ke7 7.Qg5+ Rf6 8.Rh7+ Ke6 9.Qg4+ Kd6 10.Bc7+ Kc5 11.axb3 Qxg6 12.b4+ Kd5 (31.61)
17 +1.49 1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 f5 4.Rh3 Kf7 5.exf5 Bxb3 6.fxg6+ Ke7 7.Qg5+ Rf6 8.Rh7+ Ke6 9.Qg4+ Kd6 10.axb3 Rxg6 11.Bc7+ Kc5 12.b4+ Bxb4 13.cxb4+ Nxb4 (86.67)
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Jaimes Conda
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Re: Sorry---I needed one more drink

Post by Jaimes Conda »

kgburcham wrote:I had to purchase Deep Fritz 11.
I am sorry, I will enter CC rehab tommorrow.
Here is a test position for you to compare yours to DF11.


[D] 2b1qrk1/5p1p/pBn3p1/1p2p3/4P2N/bBP1Q3/P4PPP/3R2K1 w - - 0 1

Deep fritz 11:

1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 f5 4.Rh3 Kf7 5.Qh7+ Kf6 6.Qh4+ Kg7 7.Bxe6 Qxe6 8.exf5 Qg8 9.Qh6+ Kf7 10.fxg6+ Ke6 11.c4 Be7 12.cxb5 axb5 13.Rd3
+/- (1.14) Depth: 25/51 00:11:30 5073mN
1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 f5 4.Rh3 Kf7 5.Qh7+ Kf6 6.Qh4+ Kg7 7.Bxe6 Qxe6 8.exf5 Qxa2 9.Qh7+ Kf6 10.Qxg6+ Ke7 11.Rh7+ Rf7 12.Rxf7+ Qxf7 13.Qxc6 Qxf5
+- (1.46) Depth: 26/49 00:14:32 6453mN
1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 Ne7 4.Bc7 Bc1 5.Qxc1 Qc6 6.Bxe5 Qxe4 7.Re3 Qf5 8.Bd6 Re8 9.Bxe6 fxe6 10.c4 bxc4 11.Re5
+- (1.57) Depth: 27/49 00:18:09 8123mN
1.Nxg6 hxg6 2.Qh6 Be6 3.Rd3 Ne7 4.Bxe6 fxe6 5.Rh3 Kf7 6.Qh7+ Kf6 7.Be3 Nf5 8.exf5 exf5 9.Bh6 Rg8 10.Bg5+ Ke6 11.Qb7 Qb8 12.Qxa6+ Qd6 13.Qxb5
+- (1.48) Depth: 28/47 00:23:07 10442mN

kgburcham,
What do you think of DF 11? What is your assessment of it compared to others?

Regards: Jaimes
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kgburcham
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Re: Sorry---I needed one more drink

Post by kgburcham »

Jaimes. It is way too early for me to have an opinion about DF11.
I bought DF11 to compare to DF1 using test positions.
Against Rybka 3, DF11 is weaker based on testing posted here, but of course I do not care.
I have always liked the fritz interface.
I can answer your question in several months.

kgburcham
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Re: Sorry---I needed one more drink

Post by Spock »

Having purchased Deep Fritz 11, you no longer have any money for a drink :wink:
Howard E
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Re: Sorry---I needed one more drink

Post by Howard E »

Which came first, the drinks or the purchase?
In life, as in chess, move ordering is important .
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Re: Sorry---I needed one more drink

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FEN: 2b1qrk1/5p1p/pBn3p1/1p2p3/4P2N/bBP1Q3/P4PPP/3R2K1 w - - 0 1

RybkaWinFinderv2.2.w32 mp:
1 00:00 0 0 +0.45 c3-c4
1 00:00 0 0 +0.37 c3-c4
4 00:00 5.462 50.846 +0.45 c3-c4
5 00:00 10.122 60.261 +0.52 c3-c4 Ba3-b4
6 00:00 16.104 75.299 +0.52 c3-c4 Ba3-b4 c4xb5
7 00:00 29.870 93.252 +0.52 c3-c4 Ba3-b4 c4xb5 a6xb5 Nh4-f3
8 00:00 62.970 114.735 +0.60 c3-c4 Ba3-b4 c4xb5 a6xb5 Nh4-f3 Bc8-e6
9 00:01 114.924 127.776 +0.60 c3-c4 Ba3-b4 c4xb5 a6xb5 Nh4-f3 Bc8-e6 a2-a3
10 00:01 202.852 140.067 +0.60 c3-c4 Ba3-b4 c4xb5 a6xb5 Nh4-f3 Bc8-e6 a2-a3 Be6xb3
11 00:03 417.604 144.224 +0.60 c3-c4 b5xc4 Bb3xc4 Nc6-a5 Bb6xa5 Qe8-a4 Qe3-b3 Qa4xa5
12 00:05 749.082 149.904 +0.52 c3-c4 b5xc4 Bb3xc4 Nc6-a5 Bb6xa5 Qe8-a4 Qe3-b3 Qa4xa5 Nh4-f3
12 00:06 749.082 149.904 +0.56 Nh4xg6
12 00:07 749.082 149.904 +1.05 Nh4xg6
12 00:07 1.141.580 151.677 +1.05 Nh4xg6 h7xg6 Qe3-h6 Bc8-e6 Rd1-d3 f7-f5 Rd3-h3 Kg8-f7 e4xf5 Be6xb3 Qh6xg6+ Kf7-e7 Rh3-h7+ Rf8-f7
13 00:10 1.470.472 152.235 +0.82 Nh4xg6 h7xg6 Qe3-h6 Bc8-e6 Rd1-d3 f7-f5 Rd3-h3 Kg8-f7 e4xf5 Be6xb3 Qh6xg6+ Kf7-e7 Rh3-h7+ Rf8-f7
14 00:17 2.592.484 153.717 +1.05 Nh4xg6 h7xg6 Qe3-h6 Bc8-e6 Rd1-d3 f7-f5 Rd3-h3 Kg8-f7 e4xf5 Be6xb3 f5xg6+ Kf7-e7 a2xb3 Qe8-d7
15 00:29 4.357.058 154.675 +1.05 Nh4xg6 h7xg6 Qe3-h6 Bc8-e6 Rd1-d3 f7-f5 Rd3-h3 Kg8-f7 e4xf5 Be6xb3 f5xg6+ Kf7-e7 a2xb3 Qe8-d7
16 00:54 8.232.184 155.232 +1.12 Nh4xg6 h7xg6 Qe3-h6 Bc8-e6 Rd1-d3 f7-f5 Rd3-h3 Kg8-f7 e4xf5 Be6xb3 f5xg6+ Kf7-e7 a2xb3 Qe8-d7
17 01:42 15.524.138 155.526 +1.05 Nh4xg6 h7xg6 Qe3-h6 Bc8-e6 Rd1-d3 f7-f5 Rd3-h3 Kg8-f7 e4xf5 Be6xb3 f5xg6+ Kf7-e7 a2xb3 Qe8-d7
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Jaimes Conda
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Re: Sorry---I needed one more drink

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kgburcham wrote:Jaimes. It is way too early for me to have an opinion about DF11.
I bought DF11 to compare to DF1 using test positions.
Against Rybka 3, DF11 is weaker based on testing posted here, but of course I do not care.
I have always liked the fritz interface.
I can answer your question in several months.

kgburcham
I shall be looking for your comments. I am interested to know if Fritz has now lost it's aggressive attacking style.

Thanks Jaimes
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Re: Sorry---I needed one more drink

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Jaimes Conda wrote:
kgburcham wrote:Jaimes. It is way too early for me to have an opinion about DF11.
I bought DF11 to compare to DF1 using test positions.
Against Rybka 3, DF11 is weaker based on testing posted here, but of course I do not care.
I have always liked the fritz interface.
I can answer your question in several months.

kgburcham
I shall be looking for your comments. I am interested to know if Fritz has now lost it's aggressive attacking style.

Thanks Jaimes
The last real aggressive Fritz version is Deep Fritz 10....
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