Leiden Tournament

[mclane]

I like to see the ENGINE do the work, not some pre-prepared sequence of moves.

yes. my opinion too.

maybe 10 moves are enough.

[Spock]

........ the books should have a limit as well. I say let the engines play as much as possible.

Totally agree

[gerold]

I was told it was a Book Win, was it? I have not had time to look at the game yet.

here you can replay the game ONLINE...


http://www.schachcomputer.info/forum/sh ... #post20268

Very good thanks.
best,
Gerold.

[F. Bluemers]

i know each Leiden tournament consists of both a PC Engine tournament as well as a "Users" or "Gebroikers "tournament of dedicated chess computers
i dont see where on the link the Gebriokers or Users Tournament updates are shown?

Regards
Steve

Gebroikers -> Gebruikers (means users)
http://www.csvn.nl/index.php?option=com ... 4&Itemid=1
Best
Fonzy

[Steve B]

i know each Leiden tournament consists of both a PC Engine tournament as well as a "Users" or "Gebroikers "tournament of dedicated chess computers
i dont see where on the link the Gebriokers or Users Tournament updates are shown?

Regards
Steve

Gebroikers -> Gebruikers (means users)
http://www.csvn.nl/index.php?option=com ... 4&Itemid=1
Best
Fonzy

Excellent
Thanks Fonzy

Go Ed Go(Mephisto Risc II) Regards
Steve

[Leto]

Depends on what you call a book win. White had a great position out of book, but black could probably have put up stiffer resistance.

Yeah, I just replayed the game. I would not call it a Book Win. Looks like it was just outplayed.

Glad it wasn't - I just think book wins devalue these and other tournaments when they happen, I like to see the ENGINE do the work, not some pre-prepared sequence of moves. Of course that is why I prefer chess960 to normal chess any day of the week.

With Rybka and some of the other strong contenders not there, Hiarcs stands a good chance of winning this tournament

But we already have CEGT and CCRL which use small generic books to test the engine's true strength. Why waste time retesting?

[mclane]

its not about testing. its about winning in a tournament with few rounds. IMO it is russian roulette to play with a big book.
in such a tournament use a small book that throws opponent out in a position YOUR program can handle instead of beeing thrown out by the big opening book of the opponent in a position the opponent program likes.

[Leto]

An article from Rybka author's wife about the importance of the book for Rybka's win in 2006:
http://www.rybkachess.com/docs/LEIDEN%2 ... TITION.htm

[Gerd Isenberg]

exactly.its time for gerd.

Gerd has worked hard over a long period of time, so any success would indeed be well deserved.

Thanks for your kind words, Graham. I have to admit that the current HansDamf, which played in Wortel and Leiden is still more 32-bit IsiChess MMX than the initial devoted 64-bit SSE2 HansDamf, which is a color-flipper (flips the board after each move, so the computer is always white to move) and will blow everything away

(With a decent eval and parallel algorithm still in progress).

Cheers,
Gerd

[mclane]

gerd. we all wait for the breakthrough.

more Dampf !!