When two queens aren't better than one.

[Graham Banks]

[Event "Round Robin"]
[Site "ChessGUI"]
[Date "2009.06.07"]
[Round "2"]
[White "OBender 3.2.4.2"]
[Black "RattateChess Bologna 2007"]
[Result "0-1"]
[PlyCount "117"]
[EventDate "2009.??.??"]
[TimeControl "40/1920:40/1920:40/1920"]

{Unknown Hardware} 1. d4 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 2. c4 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} b6 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. g3 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ba6 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Nbd2 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. cxd5 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} exd5 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Bg2 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Be7 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. O-O {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Ne5 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 10. b3 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re8 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Bb2 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} cxd4 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 12. Ndf3 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bc5 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 13. a3 {[%eval -7,12] [%emt 0:00:30]} Qd6 {
[%eval 36,13] [%emt 0:01:04]} 14. Nd3 {[%eval 6,13] [%emt 0:00:30]} Nc6 {
[%eval 28,13] [%emt 0:01:01]} 15. b4 {[%eval 103,12] [%emt 0:00:29]} Bc4 {
[%eval -2,12] [%emt 0:00:38]} 16. bxc5 {[%eval 102,12] [%emt 0:00:28]} bxc5 {
[%eval 1,14] [%emt 0:00:58]} 17. Qc2 {[%eval 109,12] [%emt 0:00:37]} Rab8 {
[%eval 11,12] [%emt 0:00:47]} 18. Rac1 {[%eval 105,11] [%emt 0:00:42]} Ne4 {
[%eval 9,12] [%emt 0:00:54]} 19. Nd2 {[%eval 106,12] [%emt 0:00:36]} Nxd2 {
[%eval -6,13] [%emt 0:00:53]} 20. Qxd2 {[%eval 102,13] [%emt 0:00:39]} Rb3 {
[%eval 17,13] [%emt 0:00:51]} 21. Rfd1 {[%eval 101,12] [%emt 0:01:15]} Bxd3 {
[%eval 19,13] [%emt 0:00:37]} 22. exd3 {[%eval 105,14] [%emt 0:00:41]} Ne5 {
[%eval -5,13] [%emt 0:00:48]} 23. Qc2 {[%eval 115,14] [%emt 0:00:53]} Reb8 {
[%eval -68,13] [%emt 0:00:38]} 24. Ba1 {[%eval 108,13] [%emt 0:00:29]} Nd7 {
[%eval -85,13] [%emt 0:00:41]} 25. Bh3 {[%eval 206,14] [%emt 0:00:36]} R3b5 {
[%eval -122,14] [%emt 0:00:39]} 26. Qa4 {[%eval 202,15] [%emt 0:01:19]} Ne5 {
[%eval -130,13] [%emt 0:00:31]} 27. Qxa7 {[%eval 209,13] [%emt 0:01:20]} Qh6 {
[%eval -147,12] [%emt 0:00:31]} 28. Bf1 {[%eval 212,12] [%emt 0:00:43]} R5b6 {
[%eval -169,12] [%emt 0:00:40]} 29. Be2 {[%eval 207,12] [%emt 0:00:46]} Qd6 {
[%eval -180,13] [%emt 0:00:36]} 30. Qa5 {[%eval 213,13] [%emt 0:00:37]} Nd7 {
[%eval -112,14] [%emt 0:00:33]} 31. Qd2 {[%eval 209,12] [%emt 0:00:40]} Rb3 {
[%eval -144,13] [%emt 0:00:37]} 32. Qa2 {[%eval 215,12] [%emt 0:00:34]} Qa6 {
[%eval -155,13] [%emt 0:00:29]} 33. a4 {[%eval 213,12] [%emt 0:00:40]} Qe6 {
[%eval -154,11] [%emt 0:00:21]} 34. Re1 {[%eval 210,13] [%emt 0:00:38]} Qd6 {
[%eval -170,12] [%emt 0:00:32]} 35. Kh1 {[%eval 212,12] [%emt 0:00:37]} Kh8 {
[%eval -175,12] [%emt 0:00:24]} 36. f4 {[%eval 218,13] [%emt 0:00:40]} f6 {
[%eval -203,12] [%emt 0:00:26]} 37. Kg2 {[%eval 214,12] [%emt 0:00:30]} f5 {
[%eval -188,12] [%emt 0:00:28]} 38. a5 {[%eval 217,13] [%emt 0:00:40]} Nf6 {
[%eval -176,13] [%emt 0:00:30]} 39. Rb1 {[%eval 216,13] [%emt 0:00:39]} Rxb1 {
[%eval -189,13] [%emt 0:00:25]} 40. Rxb1 {[%eval 220,13] [%emt 0:00:40]} Ra8 {
[%eval -196,13] [%emt 0:00:19]} 41. Rc1 {[%eval 212,10] [%emt 0:00:02]} h6 {
[%eval -261,14] [%emt 0:01:08]} 42. Bf3 {[%eval 213,13] [%emt 0:00:30]} Ra6 {
[%eval -273,15] [%emt 0:01:08]} 43. h4 {[%eval 215,13] [%emt 0:00:29]} Kh7 {
[%eval -276,14] [%emt 0:00:49]} 44. Qa4 {[%eval 216,13] [%emt 0:00:39]} Nd7 {
[%eval -263,15] [%emt 0:01:03]} 45. h5 {[%eval 221,12] [%emt 0:00:27]} Qe7 {
[%eval -232,14] [%emt 0:01:09]} 46. Qb5 {[%eval 215,13] [%emt 0:00:40]} Rd6 {
[%eval -414,14] [%emt 0:01:09]} 47. a6 {[%eval 321,14] [%emt 0:00:39]} Qe3 {
[%eval -383,14] [%emt 0:01:09]} 48. a7 {[%eval 405,13] [%emt 0:00:35]} Qd2+ {
[%eval -35,15] [%emt 0:01:00]} 49. Kh3 {[%eval 310,15] [%emt 0:00:39]} Qxc1 {
[%eval -35,16] [%emt 0:01:09]} 50. a8=Q {[%eval 201,14] [%emt 0:00:34]} Qf1+ {
[%eval -35,16] [%emt 0:01:09]} 51. Bg2 {[%eval 204,14] [%emt 0:00:39]} Qe2 {
[%eval -35,16] [%emt 0:01:09]} 52. Kh2 {[%eval 0,13] [%emt 0:00:39]} Nf6 {
[%eval -35,14] [%emt 0:01:07]} 53. Qb1 {[%eval -8,13] [%emt 0:00:40]} Qxh5+ {
[%eval 479,13] [%emt 0:01:05]} 54. Bh3 {[%eval -113,14] [%emt 0:00:39]} Ng4+ {
[%eval 960,15] [%emt 0:01:03]} 55. Kg2 {[%eval -113,13] [%emt 0:00:40]} Ne3+ {
[%eval 960,15] [%emt 0:01:01]} 56. Kh2 {[%eval -511,13] [%emt 0:00:39]} Qe2+ {
[%eval 960,14] [%emt 0:00:58]} 57. Kh1 {[%eval -715,15] [%emt 0:00:36]} Qf3+ {
[%eval 981,15] [%emt 0:00:57]} 58. Kh2 {[%eval -725,15] [%emt 0:00:39]} Qf2+ {
[%eval 1226,15] [%emt 0:00:55]} 59. Kh1 {[%eval -725,14] [%emt 0:00:40]} 0-1

[Graham Banks]

[D] 8/3n2pk/P2r3p/1Qpp1p1P/3p1P2/3PqBP1/6K1/B1R5 w - - 48
The position after Black's 47th move.

[swami]

Chess is not always about material, It's more about tactics.

If you have even minimum number of pieces at the right side of the board where your opponent's king is not well defended, and you can spot tactics, then the game is over.

[Graham Banks]

Chess is not always about material, It's more about tactics.

If you have even minimum number of pieces at the right side of the board where your opponent's king is not well defended, and you can spot tactics, then the game is over.

Well summed up.

[Guenther]

Chess is not always about material, It's more about tactics.

If you have even minimum number of pieces at the right side of the board where your opponent's king is not well defended, and you can spot tactics, then the game is over.

Well summed up. :wink:

White was simply too greedy with 49.a7?(=) most preparing
and defending the own base position moves instead should win soon.
With the big blunder 53.Qb1?? White even gave away the draw.

[Graham Banks]

Chess is not always about material, It's more about tactics.

If you have even minimum number of pieces at the right side of the board where your opponent's king is not well defended, and you can spot tactics, then the game is over.

Well summed up.

White was simply too greedy with 49.a7?(=) most preparing
and defending the own base position moves instead should win soon.
With the big blunder 53.Qb1?? White even gave away the draw.

Yes - White was ahead throughout until he got greedy.

[swami]

Yes - White was ahead throughout until he got greedy.

It just tells us two things: Obender has king safety issues. And that the material bonus is overvalued.

[Graham Banks]

Yes - White was ahead throughout until he got greedy.

It just tells us two things: Obender has king safety issues. And that the material bonus is overvalued.

Yes - good king safety in particular is crucial for any engine.

[Michael Sherwin]

Chess is not always about material, It's more about tactics.

If you have even minimum number of pieces at the right side of the board where your opponent's king is not well defended, and you can spot tactics, then the game is over.

I lost Romi's, "Evergreen Game":(--it was from a tournament by Karl-Heinz Sontges. In the game, Romi sacked (lost) just about everything, but still managed to give mate with very little material left while surrounded by a veritable enemy army. I wonder if anyone saved Karl-Heinz's pgn collection?

[S.Taylor]

Chess is not always about material, It's more about tactics.

If you have even minimum number of pieces at the right side of the board where your opponent's king is not well defended, and you can spot tactics, then the game is over.

Well summed up.

White was simply too greedy with 49.a7?(=) most preparing
and defending the own base position moves instead should win soon.
With the big blunder 53.Qb1?? White even gave away the draw.

THANK you! Only now I know what Graham means to say with this position.
How would I have have known from the thread heading alone?