Result Mainz Chess960 qualifier: 1) Sjeng 2) Rybka 3) Ikarus

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Re: Result Mainz Chess960 qualifier: 1) Sjeng 2) Rybka 3) Ik

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Harvey Williamson wrote:
Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

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>Automato 
> icctd version: 8.676 (Compiled Jun 27 2009 08:31:33)
> #  999   Mainz Chess960 Computer Section "help Chess960" Double Round Robin w22 5 5 rated manager 
> ******   8 players/14 round (of 14)
>          Managed by .   (Sat Jul  4 09 12:35 - Sat Jul  4 09 17:30)
>          System: main TD: Automato
>          max_bye_points:3
>          max_best:3000 last_sort:score scheduled: no
>     Name                   1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8 Score  #g
>   1 Sjeng          (2032)  xx 1= 11 10 11 11       12.5  10
>   2 Rybka          (2000)  0= xx 11 =1 =1 11 i     11.5  10
>   3 Ikarus         (1852)  00 00 xx == 11 11        9.0  10
>   4 Toga           (2000)  01 =0 == xx 00 11    i   8.5  10
>   5 Jonny          (2099)  00 =0 00 11 xx 11        8.5  10
>   6 The Baron      (2097)  00 00 00 00 00 xx        4.0  10
>   7 Glaurung       (2223)     o              xx     0.0   0
>   8 Fritz          (1400)           o           xx  0.0   0
Sjeng and Ikarus will join Shredder and Rybka in Mainz.
Congratulations! Why was Rybka playing?
It shouldn't have played in the first place. Tornado-C was not allowed to join for example but Rybka was. Very bad decision taking.

Lucky Sjeng beated it clearly.

This makes Sjeng a serious candidate for title over there, the Rybka's did not play at slow hardware here. Sjeng always was a good blitz engine and proves itself here once again.

Sjeng and Rybka do not have much of a chessknowledge. It seems that for an engine like Sjeng all it needs is equal hardware to beat Rybka. Maybe Sjeng has a far better search, especially for blitz?

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Re: Result Mainz Chess960 qualifier: 1) Sjeng 2) Rybka 3) Ik

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From the ICC notes it looks like that Rybka played on a dual core

intel e2140@1.6GHz, 1GB Ram

Obviously the notes can in incorrect, but I have seen kirkconley play on ICC vs quadcore Rybkas where it drew or lost.

Also the handle "kirkconley" does not seem to have any connection to Vas or his team, as GCP already pointed out.
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Re: Result Mainz Chess960 qualifier: 1) Sjeng 2) Rybka 3) Ik

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Titu wrote:From the ICC notes it looks like that Rybka played on a dual core

intel e2140@1.6GHz, 1GB Ram

Obviously the notes can in incorrect, but I have seen kirkconley play on ICC vs quadcore Rybkas where it drew or lost.

Also the handle "kirkconley" does not seem to have any connection to Vas or his team, as GCP already pointed out.
Rybka and Shredder are invited to Mainz anyway - Rybka should not have played in this prelim.
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Re: Result Mainz Chess960 qualifier: 1) Sjeng 2) Rybka 3) Ik

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Teemu Pudas wrote:Note I said Arena. I do that, but only if I get a Shredder-FEN. Arena uses X-FEN and O-O castling.
I am talking about the official UCI protocol what is used in Polyglot. Thats what Toga CMLX is supposed to use (option name UCI_Chess960 type check default false). Here Toga CMLX sends 0-0 instead of "King takes rook"

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POLYGLOT FEN rqkr4/1pp2ppp/p2bpnn1/1b1p4/3P4/3BPNN1/PPPB1PPP/RQ3RK1 b da - 7 8
Adapter->Engine: position fen rqkrbbnn/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RQKRBBNN w DAda - 0 1 moves d2d4 d7d5 g1f3 g8f6 e2e3 e7e6 f1d3 a7a6 e1a5 f8d6 h1g3 e8b5 c1d1 h8g6 a5d2
Adapter->Engine: go wtime 35180 btime 46930
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Engine->Adapter: bestmove 0-0 ponder f1c1
Arena has an inofficial implementation of Chess960 in UCI, it was released before the official Chess960 extensions. Arena does not support the official UCI/Chess960 protocol.
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Re: Result Mainz Chess960 qualifier: 1) Sjeng 2) Rybka 3) Ik

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Harvey Williamson wrote:
Titu wrote:From the ICC notes it looks like that Rybka played on a dual core

intel e2140@1.6GHz, 1GB Ram

Obviously the notes can in incorrect, but I have seen kirkconley play on ICC vs quadcore Rybkas where it drew or lost.

Also the handle "kirkconley" does not seem to have any connection to Vas or his team, as GCP already pointed out.
Rybka and Shredder are invited to Mainz anyway - Rybka should not have played in this prelim.
In the human event, Nakamura was already qualified for this years Mainz, but ICC allowed him to enter. I guess ICC have the same rules for comps.

Nakamura was knocked out in the quaters I believe. When I asked Nakamura why he is playing despite beeing qualified he said he could ge some free money in case he was in top 3.
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Re: Result Mainz Chess960 qualifier: 1) Sjeng 2) Rybka 3) Ik

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Alexander Schmidt wrote:I am talking about the official UCI protocol what is used in Polyglot.
Of course I know all that. Turns out CMLX never leaves Arena mode if it ever enters it. And since the board is initialized with a KQkq fen at startup...

Fixed now. New version here.
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Re: Result Mainz Chess960 qualifier: 1) Sjeng 2) Rybka 3) Ik

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Titu wrote:From the ICC notes it looks like that Rybka played on a dual core

intel e2140@1.6GHz, 1GB Ram

Obviously the notes can in incorrect, but I have seen kirkconley play on ICC vs quadcore Rybkas where it drew or lost.

Also the handle "kirkconley" does not seem to have any connection to Vas or his team, as GCP already pointed out.
Which isn't the case, as those accounts are rated far above i7's and some QX9775 skulltrails. It is difficult to play there with rybka and be rated higher than a skulltrail with the same rybka :)

Obviously you don't get a rating of 2724 standard in ICC with rybka 3.0 by just using a 1.6Ghz processor.

That is utter ballony of course. Additionally it is a 32 bits rybka he plays with.

So this 32 bits rybka is rated far above i7's with rybka 3.0 @ 64 bits.

that's quite an achievement with a 1.6Ghz processor :)

If it looks like a space shuttle, if it can get into orbit, if it makes ear deafening sound at launch, then maybe it is not a scud, but the space shuttle.

vars kirkconley
Variable settings of kirkconley:

rated=1 wild=0 time=2 inc=0 noescape=0 notakeback=0
minseek=800 maxseek=3900 manualaccept=0 useformula=1
open=1 ropen=1 wopen=1 ccopen=1 mood=0 seek=1 sfilter=m
shout=0 sshout=1 kib=1 tell=0 ctell=0 otell=0 pin=0 gin=0 quietplay=0 busy=0
style=12 width=78 height=18 wrap=1 prompt=1 highlight=0 bell=2
oldmatch=0 examine=0 unobserve=1 autoflag=1
who="" players="ab" lang="English" webhelp=1 allowkib=2 pstat=0
messmail=0 automail=0 mailformat=1 addresspublic=0 namepublic=0 subscribe=1
formula="wild!=26 & wild!=23 & wild!=24 & wild=0 & rated & !timeodds & wild!=17 & wild!=27 & (rating > 800)"
Channels: 1 2 32 64 220 221 250
interface="ChessPartner 6.0.0.6 + Engine: Rybka 3 32-bit"

Also wouldn't look good for bob as it is rated well above crafty @ 8 cores.
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Re: Result Mainz Chess960 qualifier: 1) Sjeng 2) Rybka 3) Ik

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Thank you very much :!:
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Re: Result Mainz Chess960 qualifier: 1) Sjeng 2) Rybka 3) Ik

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Titu wrote: Nakamura was knocked out in the quaters I believe. When I asked Nakamura why he is playing despite beeing qualified he said he could ge some free money in case he was in top 3.
This was the case for the computer tournament as well (top 2).
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Re: Result Mainz Chess960 qualifier: 1) Sjeng 2) Rybka 3) Ik

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diep wrote:Tornado-C was not allowed to join for example but Rybka was.
Why?