CCC/CTF v Hiarcs Headbangers Game 1 (25/07/2009)

[Christopher Conkie]

You are/were a moderator in the Hiarcs forum. How neutral is that?

As to ego....may we remind you......

"Only with perfect play will you be able to even draw against the Headbangers"

Now we know how they do it.

[Steve B]

If you and the team members have an issue with me as a neutral party then that is OK with me
i have not been a moderator on the Hforum for over a year now and i was only a moderator during their first year of operation

but i am an elected moderator here and my goal was only to bring both teams together

Suggest another neutral party
again if Graham will accept he should be agreeable to the Hteam

i also think you could have asked the TCADMIN to create a secret forum HERE so that our CCC/CTF members could choose to join and watch the analysis..rather then sending out private emails to hold the forum elsewhere

Steve

[Christopher Conkie]

If you and the team members have an issue with me as a neutral party then that is OK with me
i have not been a moderator on the Hforum for over a year now and i was only a moderator during their first year of operation

but i am an elected moderator here and my goal was only to bring both teams together

Suggest another neutral party
again if Graham will accept he should be agreeable to the Hteam

i also think you could have asked the TCADMIN to create a secret forum HERE so that our CCC/CTF members could choose to join and watch the analysis..rather then sending out private emails to hold the forum elsewhere

Steve

Sam is probably very busy. I've done it for him.

We have already set the forum up for our private analysis. Why does anyone need a neutral party? To observe what? You did not answer me.

The votes of the team members combined with those who care to nominate a move in here are what we present as "the move".

Seems very simple and very fair to me. Obviously we would expand the core team to allow those wished to join/help us in move by move analysis throughout the game.

For now we have 7 and we do that analysis in private......just like Hiarcs.

[Graham Banks]

If you and the team members have an issue with me as a neutral party then that is OK with me
i have not been a moderator on the Hforum for over a year now and i was only a moderator during their first year of operation

but i am an elected moderator here and my goal was only to bring both teams together

Suggest another neutral party
again if Graham will accept he should be agreeable to the Hteam

i also think you could have asked the TCADMIN to create a secret forum HERE so that our CCC/CTF members could choose to join and watch the analysis..rather then sending out private emails to hold the forum elsewhere

Steve

I am happy to help out if required and if both teams are agreeable.

[Christopher Conkie]

If you and the team members have an issue with me as a neutral party then that is OK with me
i have not been a moderator on the Hforum for over a year now and i was only a moderator during their first year of operation

but i am an elected moderator here and my goal was only to bring both teams together

Suggest another neutral party
again if Graham will accept he should be agreeable to the Hteam

i also think you could have asked the TCADMIN to create a secret forum HERE so that our CCC/CTF members could choose to join and watch the analysis..rather then sending out private emails to hold the forum elsewhere

Steve

I am happy to help out if required and if both teams are agreeable.

We are not. We don't need a neutral observer. You tell me what a neutral observer does? What do you observe?

[Steve B]

the purpose of a neutral party is observe both forums and insure that no one is posting analysis from one forum to the next
a player could copy analysis from one forum and post it as his own on the other forum or just post it to cause havoc
a neutral was used in both games when the Rybka Team played the Hteam
i am not creating something new here Chris
all of the mods on Rybka and the Rybka Hiarcs Team Cptains understood the need for a neutral and everyone involved agreed to it
reconsider this issue and suggest a neutral

why did you not attempt to create a secret threat here?

Steve

[gerold]

If you and the team members have an issue with me as a neutral party then that is OK with me
i have not been a moderator on the Hforum for over a year now and i was only a moderator during their first year of operation

but i am an elected moderator here and my goal was only to bring both teams together

Suggest another neutral party
again if Graham will accept he should be agreeable to the Hteam

i also think you could have asked the TCADMIN to create a secret forum HERE so that our CCC/CTF members could choose to join and watch the analysis..rather then sending out private emails to hold the forum elsewhere

Steve

I am happy to help out if required and if both teams are agreeable.

Will the present good game continue or will there be another
practice game.

Will all agree on the rules and not change them.
The conditions on how the game is played
has to be the same for both. Open.

Best to all,

Gerold.

[Steve B]

If you and the team members have an issue with me as a neutral party then that is OK with me
i have not been a moderator on the Hforum for over a year now and i was only a moderator during their first year of operation

but i am an elected moderator here and my goal was only to bring both teams together

Suggest another neutral party
again if Graham will accept he should be agreeable to the Hteam

i also think you could have asked the TCADMIN to create a secret forum HERE so that our CCC/CTF members could choose to join and watch the analysis..rather then sending out private emails to hold the forum elsewhere

Steve

I am happy to help out if required and if both teams are agreeable.

Well Done Graham
in the interest of keeping the game alive i applaud you!
Best Regards
Steve

[Graham Banks]

I am happy to help out if required and if both teams are agreeable.

We are not. We don't need a neutral observer. You tell me what a neutral observer does? What do you observe?

Steve has answered your question. However, I'm not offended if not required.

[Christopher Conkie]

the purpose of a neutral party is observe both forums and insure that no one is posting analysis from one forum to the next
a player could copy analysis from one forum and post it as his own on the other forum or just post it to cause havoc
a neutral was used in both games when the Rybka Team played the Hteam
i am not creating something new here Chris
all of the mods on Rybka and the Rybka Hiarcs Team Cptains understood the need for a neutral and everyone involved agreed to it
reconsider this issue and suggest a neutral

why did you not attempt to create a secret threat here?

Steve

I doubt the analysis matters that much if both teams use chess engines.....

An engine is......an engine.

why did you not attempt to create a secret threat here?

Our secret threat (!?) is elsewhere already. We have the ability to invite people instantaneously there. It is much more flexible that way. We model ourselves on the Hiarcs model of "transparency".

A better way is to get Hiarcs to show who is in their team and we would do the same.

That would negate the need to observe anything as then you would know who is in each others team.