Deeb's best move series [1]

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Deeb's best move series [1]

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Sokolsky-Strugatch 1958

[D]r1bqk2r/ppppn1pp/5p2/n7/1bB1PN2/8/PBPP2PP/RN1QK2R w KQkq - 0 8

Bxf6!!
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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Sokolsky-Strugatch 1958

[D]r1bqk2r/ppppn1pp/5p2/n7/1bB1PN2/8/PBPP2PP/RN1QK2R w KQkq - 0 8

Bxf6!!
Does white win after Bf6?
1. Bf6 Rf6
2. Nh5 !? Nc4
3. Ng7 Kf7
[D]r1bq1r2/ppppnkNp/5B2/8/1bn1P3/8/P1PP2PP/RN1QK2R w KQ -
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F. Bluemers wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Sokolsky-Strugatch 1958

[D]r1bqk2r/ppppn1pp/5p2/n7/1bB1PN2/8/PBPP2PP/RN1QK2R w KQkq - 0 8

Bxf6!!
Does white win after Bf6?
1. Bf6 Rf6
2. Nh5 !? Nc4
3. Ng7 Kf7
[D]r1bq1r2/ppppnkNp/5B2/8/1bn1P3/8/P1PP2PP/RN1QK2R w KQ -
Yes he does,I will show all the possible variations later,just want to check which engines can find this move....
I assume few if any....
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It's the only move Bright 0.4a looks at. I think you might have this move programmed into the latest Bright book.
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AdminX wrote:It's the only move Bright 0.4a looks at. I think you might have this move programmed into the latest Bright book.
Thanks Ted....and yes,Bright sees the move :D
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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
AdminX wrote:It's the only move Bright 0.4a looks at. I think you might have this move programmed into the latest Bright book.
Thanks Ted....and yes,Bright sees the move :D
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White does not win after Bxt6.

http://www.andrewmartinchessacademy.com ... er2008.pdf

At move 15, Black can play Ne5 and draw. The actual move played in that game (Kh8) is a stinker.

[d]r1bq2k1/pppp2N1/6Q1/8/1bn1P3/8/P1PP2PP/RN4K1 b

Ne5 Qg3 Kh7 Nf5 Qf6 is the line I mean.

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
F. Bluemers wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Sokolsky-Strugatch 1958

[D]r1bqk2r/ppppn1pp/5p2/n7/1bB1PN2/8/PBPP2PP/RN1QK2R w KQkq - 0 8

Bxf6!!
Does white win after Bf6?
1. Bf6 Rf6
2. Nh5 !? Nc4
3. Ng7 Kf7
[D]r1bq1r2/ppppnkNp/5B2/8/1bn1P3/8/P1PP2PP/RN1QK2R w KQ -
Yes he does,I will show all the possible variations later,just want to check which engines can find this move....
I assume few if any....
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Nice
I have this:
http://www.ericschiller.com/pdf/GCO%20%20excerpt.pdf,see page 626.
I also am curious what your find is against 12...d5 (instead of 12..Rxf6)
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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Sokolsky-Strugatch 1958

[D]r1bqk2r/ppppn1pp/5p2/n7/1bB1PN2/8/PBPP2PP/RN1QK2R w KQkq - 0 8

Bxf6!!
Crafty-23.0 prefers Qh5+.

Code: Select all

               21->  13:49   0.78   1. Qh5+ g6 2. Qb5 c5 3. Nd5 Rf8 4.
                                    O-O Nxd5 5. Bxd5 Nc6 6. Na3 a6 7. Qd3
                                    Bxa3 8. Qxa3 Nb4 9. Bb3 b5 10. Bc3
                                    Qb6 11. Kh1 a5 (s=4)
              time=15:00  mat=-1  n=15332250170  fh=92%  nps=17.0M    
              ext-> check=893.0M qcheck=1251.0M reduce=2985.4M/956.2M
              predicted=0  evals=3238.9M  50move=0  EGTBprobes=0  hits=0
              SMP->  splits=2511070  aborts=289085  data=118/512  elap=15:00
terminating SMP processes.

White(1): Qh5+ 
              time used:  15:00
Here's Crafty's reply to Bxf6:

Code: Select all

               19->   2:59   0.21   1. ... Rf8 2. Nh5 Nxc4 3. Nxg7+ Kf7   
                                    4. e5 Kg8 5. Qh5 Rf7 6. Qg5 Kf8 7.
                                    Nh5 Qe8 8. c3 Ba5 9. d3 Nb2 10. Bg7+
                                    Kg8 11. Nf6+ Rxf6 12. Bxf6+ Ng6
              time=5:00  mat=0  n=4499361117  fh=92%  nps=15.0M           
              ext-> check=264.1M qcheck=357.6M reduce=2017.8M/247.4M
              predicted=0  evals=3460.9M  50move=0  EGTBprobes=0  hits=0
              SMP->  splits=776423  aborts=86330  data=100/512  elap=5:00
terminating SMP processes.

Black(1): Rf8 
              time used:   5:00
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Re: Deeb's best move series [1]

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rybka is also quite unconvinced --

[d]r1bqk2r/ppppn1pp/5B2/n7/1bB1PN2/8/P1PP2PP/RN1QK2R b KQkq - 0 8

8... Rf8 9. Bg5 Rxf4 10. Bxf4 Ng6 11. Qh5 Nxc4 12. Bg5 Be7 13. Bxe7 Qxe7 14.
O-O c6 15. Qxh7 Nf8 16. Qh5+ g6 17. Qh6 [-. 16, d20, rybka 3]

the 9. Nh5 line was discarded for white by rybka at d17 in favor of 0-0, then Bg5 at depth 20.
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Note that 9. 0-0! of Deep Fritz 11. Looks just as strong as Andrew Martins Nh5.

[d]r1bqkr2/ppppn1pp/5B2/n7/1bB1PN2/8/P1PP2PP/RN1Q1RK1 b q - 0 2

Here is Deep Fritz's analysis after the bishop sac.

[d]r1bqk2r/ppppn1pp/5B2/n7/1bB1PN2/8/P1PP2PP/RN1QK2R b KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Fritz 11:

1...Rf8 2.0-0 Rxf6 3.Qh5+ Ng6 4.e5 Rxf4 5.Rxf4 Bc5+ 6.Kh1 d5 7.exd6 Nxc4 8.Rxc4 Bxd6 9.Nc3 Kf8 10.Re1 Kg8 11.Qd5+ Kh8
-+ (-2.50) Depth: 11/26 00:00:00 596kN
=/+ (-0.33) Depth: 28/57 05:05:45 116613mN
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