Today I tried to reinstall my last Fritz again. It is Fritz 8. At that time of Fritz 8 I switched to Arena because for enginetournaments Arena is the better choice.
Fritz looks a little bit better, and the server functions are nice.
But right now, I remember why I didn't use Fritz anymore:
-Changing UCI parameters - crash.
-Loading Glaurung - can't see all parameters, and can't see the OK button.
-Import of an old Fritz.fbk - Weights missing
-some server games - opponents time running out, I lost.
Ahh. I remember... Updates... OK...
-Last GUI8.iup into the Fritz folder - Running IUpgrade.exe.
-Fritz says: Can't upgrade, put the Update into the Fritz folder
IT IS IN THE F$CKING FRITZ FOLDER. And now?
My Chessprogramm8.exe is gone. No joke, it was somwhere during the update deleted. But OK, Fritz made an Backup. I rename the Backup to chessprogramm8.exe. Starting Fritz again, see screenshot:
This all did not happen in last weeks or month, it happened in the last hour...
I can't say anything about Fritz 12, but I doubt I will buy it. All I need to do I can do with Scid and Arena.
Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
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Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
Well I must have been lucky. I've never had any serious issues with the many versions of Fritz that I've bought. I'm picking that most people haven't, otherwise the company wouldn't exist.
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Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
Well, M$ also still exists ;-)Graham Banks wrote:Well I must have been lucky. I've never had any serious issues with the many versions of Fritz that I've bought. I'm picking that most people haven't, otherwise the company wouldn't exist.
Guenther
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Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
guys. next weeksend Shredder12 will come out, and we will not have to discuss or "fight" about Fritz12 anymore.
What seems like a fairy tale today may be reality tomorrow.
Here we have a fairy tale of the day after tomorrow....
Here we have a fairy tale of the day after tomorrow....
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Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
Next weekend as in Oct 3rd? Your are sure of this?
Do you know whether it will be via chessbase or just direct from Shredder website?
Do you know whether it will be via chessbase or just direct from Shredder website?
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Re: To our mods !
This is what I get with my engine. I let it run for while. After ~7 min (443 seconds, ply 12) the score is +13.28 and the PV seems correct (Black avoids the third underpromotion by playing Ke2).Michael Diosi wrote:Hi,
Sorry I didn't I was meant. You will not get a mate score, it's about the score not the move. What score do you get ?
Michael
http://www.playwitharena.com
Miguel
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2313 1 0.0 +27.86 1.Rd2+ Kxd2 2.Qh6+ Kc2
5087 2 0.0 +27.59 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Bxh3
7085 3 0.1 :-( 1.Rd2+
10707 3 0.1 +26.71 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ Ke1
38998 4 0.3 :-( 1.Rd2+
78769 4 0.7 +28.24 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxb2 3.Bxh3 Bxd1
4.Kg2 Be2 5.Kxf2
79954 5 0.7 :-( 1.Rd2+
143292 5 1.3 +23.83 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qd6
200820 6 1.6 :-) 1.Rd2+
704393 6 3.0 +35.59 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qd6 Bxf7 9.b8=Q
711654 6: 3.0 +35.59 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qd6 Bxf7 9.b8=Q
712238 7 3.0 :-( 1.Rd2+
735754 7 3.1 :-(
942789 7 3.8 +24.05 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qd8 Bd3 9.Qh4
967010 7: 3.8 +24.05 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qd8 Bd3 9.Qh4
1248871 8 4.5 :-) 1.Rd2+
1735635 8 5.6 +33.32 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qd6 Bd3 9.Qf4 Be4+ 10.Qxe4
1778590 8: 5.8 +33.32 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qd6 Bd3 9.Qf4 Be4+ 10.Qxe4
1781610 9 5.8 :-( 1.Rd2+
2016945 9 6.4 :-(
3590625 9 10.6 +12.63 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
12157538 9: 30.3 +12.63 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
16642869 10 40.3 :-) 1.Rd2+
19608754 10 46.1 +18.56 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
Bc6+ 11.Nxc6
20159452 10: 47.6 +18.56 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
Bc6+ 11.Nxc6
20186563 11 47.7 :-( 1.Rd2+
22565838 11 54.1 :-(
41345633 11 94.4 :-) 1.Rd2+
50861745 11 113.1 +22.10 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
Bc4 11.a8=Q Bxf7
52494458 11: 116.9 +22.10 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
Bc4 11.a8=Q Bxf7
52557844 12 117.1 :-( 1.Rd2+
57747932 12 129.3 :-(
195890512 12 443.2 +13.28 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
Bd3 11.a8=B Ke2 12.Bf3+ Ke3
288678115 12: 640.5 +13.28 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
Bd3 11.a8=B Ke2 12.Bf3+ Ke3
510380006 13 1119.4 :-) 1.Rd2+
767989803 13 1680.4 +13.28 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
Bd3 11.a8=B Ke2 12.Bf3+ Ke3
1927021830 13: 4765.3 +13.28 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
Bd3 11.a8=B Ke2 12.Bf3+ Ke3
3096726275 14 7379.0 +12.95 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
Bd3 11.a8=B Ke2 12.f8=Q f1=Q+ 13.Qxf1+
Kxf1
5391555544 14: 12130.4 +12.95 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
Bd3 11.a8=B Ke2 12.f8=Q f1=Q+ 13.Qxf1+
Kxf1
12086187950 15 27906.4 +13.31 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3
4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1
7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N
Bd3 11.a8=B Ke2 12.f8=Q f1=Q+ 13.Qxf1+
Kxf1 14.Nd7
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Re: To our mods !
Hi,
Now you all have a test to test which engine knows underpromotions and which doesn't. Yours is good. Ignacio is saying this is a mate in 25. This one appeared as a study as far as I know.
Michael
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Now you all have a test to test which engine knows underpromotions and which doesn't. Yours is good. Ignacio is saying this is a mate in 25. This one appeared as a study as far as I know.
Michael
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Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
I think the point is to see the under promotions. If the PV given is correct, I guess it's mate in 22 or so, which at best would take awhile.michiguel wrote:What is the engine supposed to find to consider it solved? Rd2+? or a specific mate announcement? Gaviota finds Rd2+ and the correct PV but no mate yet. Is this problem Mate in X?