About Clones or Supposed Clones

[fern]

Sorry If I am somewhat beyond the politically correct point of view about this, but I cannot share the feeling and behavior of scandal and horror that automatically spring here once someone has said this or that engine is a clone. And then the links to get there are erased.
Many times there is nothing but the suspicion of a guy based in the most faint evidence.
Even more, this issue should be left to our personal judgment. I have little patience with moderators that take that rol from me and try to governs ex ante my decisions.
I have the right to be honest by myself and erase a clear case of clone of a commercial engine, as I have done before; I have also the right to be dishonest and not do it, which i have not.
Moderators acts in these cases more like commercial lawyers at the service of a guy, but cloaked under a heavy coat of morality.
Now is the case of Ippolit. Do I have or not the right to see by myself if it is a clone of Rybka or not?
I think I have it. BTW, I already have Rybka3.

My best
Fern

[slobo]

You are right Fdo. I support all of your human rights, without exceptions.
SL

[Edsel Apostol]

I agree with you Fern, but I support the moderator's action as there are lots of personal attacks/insults in there that is inappropriate. Maybe another thread should be opened regarding Ippolit and the moderators wouldn't lock it as long as it wouldn't degenerate into a flame war.

[Gian-Carlo Pascutto]

And then the links to get there are erased.

Linking to illegal software is illegal.

There are liability issues or the forum owners here.

[WinPooh]

Linking to illegal software is illegal.

Google is illegal. It gives the link in question on the first place for query with two words. The first one is <censored>, the second one is "chess".

[Anton]

If anyone claims engine x is a clone, it is essential that they provide the evidence when making that claim, otherwise it is a personal attack against a potentially innocent programmer.

[Gian-Carlo Pascutto]

Time for some DMCA notices

[Gian-Carlo Pascutto]

a potentially innocent programmer.

Yes, particularly Yakov Petrovich Golyadkin (a novel personage) and Vladimir Ilyich Lenin (Russian head of state) and Roberto Pescatore (might be real, but the familiy name means "fisherman"!) could be terribly insulted by the accusation that they are not the real authors.

[Michel]

Some googling reveals that Yakov Petrovich Golyadkin is a Dostojevsky character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Double ... sburg_Poem

Roberto Pescatore seems to be a common name.

[Anton]

a potentially innocent programmer.

Yes, particularly Yakov Petrovich Golyadkin (a novel personage) and Vladimir Ilyich Lenin (Russian head of state) and Roberto Pescatore (might be real, but the familiy name means "fisherman"!) could be terribly insulted by the accusation that they are not the real authors.

I agree that the above names only serve to increase suspicion that we are looking at a clone, yet the names alone are not evidence of a clone.

Has Vas been made aware of these source codes? I look forward to hearing his verdict in this matter.