About Clones or Supposed Clones

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Sergei Markoff

Re: About Clones or Supposed Clones

Post by Sergei Markoff »

Terry wrote:Russia has little understanding of what justice actually means.
Did you heard about the end of Alan Turing life?
jwes
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Re: About Clones or Supposed Clones

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Michel wrote:Some googling reveals that Yakov Petrovich Golyadkin is a Dostojevsky character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Double ... sburg_Poem

Roberto Pescatore seems to be a common name.
Do you think it is a coincidence that Roberto Pescatore is a Spanish transliteration of Bobby Fischer ?
Christopher Conkie
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Re: About Clones or Supposed Clones

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jwes wrote:
Michel wrote:Some googling reveals that Yakov Petrovich Golyadkin is a Dostojevsky character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Double ... sburg_Poem

Roberto Pescatore seems to be a common name.
Do you think it is a coincidence that Roberto Pescatore is a Spanish transliteration of Bobby Fischer ?
Good spot. It is indeed.

:)

Christopher
Uri Blass
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Re: About Clones or Supposed Clones

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M ANSARI wrote:The stolen software mentioned is not complete. It is missing a large part of the code that has been left out or still not disassembled yet. The evaluation functions uses tables that seem to be missing, most likely because the person who stole the code still doesn't know how that works or doesn't have parts of the code that can make that work. I seriously doubt this program is as robust as some have claim, or that it is even 50 ELO stronger than Rybka 3 as some have claimed. Even if it was an exact copy of Rybka 3 and the few simple well documented bugs have been fixed, the improvement would probably be less than 20 ELO. Maybe not having some of the protection code might add an extra few ELO, but still noway near 50 ELO. You can get an improvement against an identical Rybka 3 on identical hardware by simply changing the default contempt factor, especially in very fast games ... but again that is just an illusion of a stronger engine.
I think that it is possible that you simply understimate the talent of the people who stole the code.

Maybe the evaluation function does not use rybka tables because the people who stole the code found something better than the tables in their testing.

Uri
Terry McCracken
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Re: About Clones or Supposed Clones

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Sergei Markoff wrote:
Terry wrote:Russia has little understanding of what justice actually means.
Did you heard about the end of Alan Turing life?
I'm talking today, and with all the faults in the West past and present doesn't amout to a hill of beans compared to Russia.

You're hungry and you steal another's work. One of you admitted to being too lazy.

No ethics, no values, completely unprincipled.
Terry McCracken
Sergei Markoff

Re: About Clones or Supposed Clones

Post by Sergei Markoff »

Terry McCracken wrote:you steal another's work
Really? Interesting statement.

It will be ok if I will send a suit to the court about this statement?
I think I can at one hand earn some money and in other hand to show you something about judice.
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Re: About Clones or Supposed Clones

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Sergei Markoff wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:you steal another's work
Really? Interesting statement.

It will be ok if I will send a suit to the court about this statement?
I think I can at one hand earn some money and in other hand to show you something about judice.
Go ahead, "Make My Day!" elohssa..
Terry McCracken
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Re: About Clones or Supposed Clones

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Terry McCracken wrote: Go ahead, "Make My Day!" elohssa..

Terry produces his .44 Magnum. Now, does he have a bullet left?
Terry McCracken
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Re: About Clones or Supposed Clones

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rlsuth wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote: Go ahead, "Make My Day!" elohssa..

Terry produces his .44 Magnum. Now, does he have a bullet left?
:twisted:
Terry McCracken
Sergei Markoff

Re: About Clones or Supposed Clones

Post by Sergei Markoff »

Terry McCracken wrote:Go ahead, "Make My Day!" elohssa..
So, according to your statements, you're probably think that you have a right to offend everyone without any proof. And after it you're saying something about justice? :lol: