Hippo Lite, what's really going on?

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George Tsavdaris
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Re: Hippo Lite, what's really going on?

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slobo wrote:
George Tsavdaris wrote:
slobo wrote:
George Tsavdaris wrote: So in order to believe or even start suspecting that Ippolit is a clone of Rybka, Vasik just has to release the code of Rybka 3 and let us compare them.

Excellent point indeed!!!
Dear George,

you don´t interpret correctly written codes.
"He needs to provide his proof" doesnt not mean
"he has to release the code of Rybka 3 and let us compare them".
He may find out other way to prove it.
What other way?
It´s up to the accuser to find out, or decide, or ...
the accuser must know better than myself.
You said(the red bold):

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you don´t interpret correctly written codes.
"He needs to provide his proof" doesnt not mean
"he has to release the code of Rybka 3 and let us compare them".
--------

So i ask you(who said that and not the accuser), what does it mean?
How else he can provide the proof without providing parts of code or the whole code?
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playjunior
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Re: Hippo Lite, what's really going on?

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George Tsavdaris wrote:
slobo wrote:
George Tsavdaris wrote:
slobo wrote:
George Tsavdaris wrote: So in order to believe or even start suspecting that Ippolit is a clone of Rybka, Vasik just has to release the code of Rybka 3 and let us compare them.

Excellent point indeed!!!
Dear George,

you don´t interpret correctly written codes.
"He needs to provide his proof" doesnt not mean
"he has to release the code of Rybka 3 and let us compare them".
He may find out other way to prove it.
What other way?
It´s up to the accuser to find out, or decide, or ...
the accuser must know better than myself.
You said(the red bold):

--------
you don´t interpret correctly written codes.
"He needs to provide his proof" doesnt not mean
"he has to release the code of Rybka 3 and let us compare them".
--------

So i ask you(who said that and not the accuser), what does it mean?
How else he can provide the proof without providing parts of code or the whole code?
When Strelka was around Vas didn't release any source, did he?
They, for instance, compared the binaries and showed that parts of it were the same. Those were crucial parts of the engine, e.g. search.

Is there any evidence of such kind regarding Ippolit?
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slobo
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Re: Hippo Lite, what's really going on?

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George Tsavdaris wrote:
slobo wrote:
George Tsavdaris wrote:
slobo wrote:
George Tsavdaris wrote: So in order to believe or even start suspecting that Ippolit is a clone of Rybka, Vasik just has to release the code of Rybka 3 and let us compare them.

Excellent point indeed!!!
Dear George,

you don´t interpret correctly written codes.
"He needs to provide his proof" doesnt not mean
"he has to release the code of Rybka 3 and let us compare them".
He may find out other way to prove it.
What other way?
It´s up to the accuser to find out, or decide, or ...
the accuser must know better than myself.
You said(the red bold):

--------
you don´t interpret correctly written codes.
"He needs to provide his proof" doesnt not mean
"he has to release the code of Rybka 3 and let us compare them".
--------

So i ask you(who said that and not the accuser), what does it mean?
How else he can provide the proof without providing parts of code or the whole code?
Read the previous posts if you don´t understand who said the line in my citation. But, generaly speaking, it is up to the acuser to provide facts that support his accusations.

If he has not facts, or (for some reason) he does not want to show them , he should change his discurse and instead of saying "IPP is Rybka´s clone" he should use softer expressions like "I suspect it is a Rybka´s clone"

OK?
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