Paradigm shifts

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Re: Paradigm shifts

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guys. can't you do this via email ?

or PM ?

the thread title suggested an interesting topic.
but when i click on it i see your boring email conversation.

do this via email. and let the thread continue with the paradigm shift thing.
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Re: Paradigm shifts

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mclane wrote:guys. can't you do this via email ?

or PM ?

the thread title suggested an interesting topic.
but when i click on it i see your boring email conversation.

do this via email. and let the thread continue with the paradigm shift thing.
This is on topic......

Alex is shifting the paradigm.

To him it's OK to compile stolen stuff. I should say that is quite a large shift in the normal paradigm.

When someone gets their IDA Pro fired up with Hex Rays and disassembles CSTal to its source code, then you too will feel the shifting of the paradigm.

Can you feel the earth moving yet?

Christopher
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Re: Paradigm shifts

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Christopher Conkie wrote:
mclane wrote:guys. can't you do this via email ?

or PM ?

the thread title suggested an interesting topic.
but when i click on it i see your boring email conversation.

do this via email. and let the thread continue with the paradigm shift thing.
This is on topic......

Alex is shifting the paradigm.

To him it's OK to compile stolen stuff. I should say that is quite a large shift in the normal paradigm.

When someone gets their IDA Pro fired up with Hex Rays and disassembles CSTal to its source code, then you too will feel the shifting of the paradigm.

Can you feel the earth moving yet?

Christopher
there is no need to disassemble CSTAL because i do have the source code.

if somebody would continue CSTAL by disassembling it and continue the project i would not be disapointed but i would be happy.

i am still the opinion that you could do your small talk via emails.
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Re: Paradigm shifts

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mclane wrote: i am still the opinion that you could do your small talk via emails.
Christopher is in the process of exposing what has been and is still going on. I think that we deserve to know.

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Re: Paradigm shifts

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mclane wrote:there is no need to disassemble CSTAL because i do have the source code.
That is interesting. IIRC Whittington told you to delete it. Maybe my memory is going, but I felt sure that he told you to do that.
if somebody would continue CSTAL by disassembling it and continue the project i would not be disapointed but i would be happy
And Chris Whittington said that to you? He is also happy for his stuff to be disassembled?

:lol:

I guess another "bean counter" would not do any harm. It could become the "industry" open source engine and he could even then make that "industry forum" for it that he was banging on about.
i am still the opinion that you could do your small talk via emails.
I think Alex has gone back to the dungeon, so you are a bit late.

Anyway, if you have the source code of CSTal, there is no need for anyone to disassemble it. I have no idea what use it is to you being as you are, a non programmer.

Distribute it......and become a hero.

Put it here since you are so sure.

This I have gotta see......

:)

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as far as i see it christopher is mainly in the process to insult people and make trouble. the thread line says paradigm shift. i don't think this was in the intention of the topic.
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Christopher Conkie wrote:
mclane wrote:there is no need to disassemble CSTAL because i do have the source code.
That is interesting. IIRC Whittington told you to delete it. Maybe my memory is going, but I felt sure that he told you to do that.
maybe you don't have a clue what you talk about.
chris whittington is not the owner of the sources anymore.

if somebody would continue CSTAL by disassembling it and continue the project i would not be disapointed but i would be happy
And Chris Whittington said that to you? He is also happy for his stuff to be disassembled?
as far as i know chris whittington supports the ippollit project.
isn't he one of the members involved ?

Anyway, if you have the source code of CSTal, there is no need for anyone to disassemble it. I have no idea what use it is to you being as you are, a non programmer.

Distribute it......and become a hero.

Put it here since you are so sure.

This I have gotta see......

:)

Christopher
why don't you look on my computer ?
isn't that your usual method to find out about things ?
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Re: Paradigm shifts

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mclane wrote:as far as i see it christopher is mainly in the process to insult people and make trouble. the thread line says paradigm shift. i don't think this was in the intention of the topic.
You are too late there also. He is in bed. As far as I can see, the intention of the topic was to determine changes in computer chess. We have seen one such change. No one can release anything with fear it gets annexed.

More important is the CSTal source code. You did not answer that.

:)

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Re: Paradigm shifts

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mclane wrote:
Christopher Conkie wrote:
mclane wrote:there is no need to disassemble CSTAL because i do have the source code.
That is interesting. IIRC Whittington told you to delete it. Maybe my memory is going, but I felt sure that he told you to do that.
maybe you don't have a clue what you talk about.
chris whittington is not the owner of the sources anymore.
And nor do you. He asked you to delete it. I checked. Why have you not done that? In the past you used to obey his every command.
if somebody would continue CSTAL by disassembling it and continue the project i would not be disapointed but i would be happy
And Chris Whittington said that to you? He is also happy for his stuff to be disassembled?
as far as i know chris whittington supports the ippollit project.
isn't he one of the members involved ?
I am talking to you about CSTal not Ippolit. Whether he supports Ippolit is neither here nor there. The point in question is whether he would like his program disassembled.

Anyway, if you have the source code of CSTal, there is no need for anyone to disassemble it. I have no idea what use it is to you being as you are, a non programmer.

Distribute it......and become a hero.

Put it here since you are so sure.

This I have gotta see......

:)

Christopher
why don't you look on my computer ?
isn't that your usual method to find out about things ?
No. The normal way is for you to send something to someone and they send it to me whether I want to receive it or not.

Everyone knows that except you it seems.

Better is to cut out the middle man and put the source here now for everyone. Make Chris happy......

;-)

Christopher
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Re: Paradigm shifts

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Christopher Conkie wrote:
mclane wrote:as far as i see it christopher is mainly in the process to insult people and make trouble. the thread line says paradigm shift. i don't think this was in the intention of the topic.
You are too late there also. He is in bed. As far as I can see, the intention of the topic was to determine changes in computer chess. We have seen one such change. No one can release anything with fear it gets annexed.

More important is the CSTal source code. You did not answer that.

:)

Christopher
Of course i did. Chris Whittington is not the owner of the sources anymore.
i got the sources from the owner of the source code.
You refer to chris whittington and claim something. this is typical for you. you post all kind of stuff about other people in public.
but as usual the things you post are not true.
if somebody posts that the things you say are not true you usually
blackmail these people, or you threaten these people with strange
comments such as you would care for them or they should go into
CTF or you would delete their accounts or whatever.
i am sure that neither blackmailing people, nor threatening
participants of this newsgroup you disagree with you, nor
attacking other moderators (steve b) was in the intention when
people elected you as moderator of CTF.
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