michiguel wrote: After that discussion, a groups of programmers promised to come back with the smoking gun in public. That NEVER happened, yet, everybody talks like this was an obvious thing. No, it was controversial at best.
Yes, Zach has more evidence and I tend to believe him because he is a serious guy, but I will wait until he speaks. On the mean time, the least everybody can do is just stay quiet, or show their own data.
This isnt sound science nor logic. You state truthfully that 4 people had announced they would show proof. This was repeated in a loop. For years. Now tere is still no proof. At such a moment it's not sound to declare that all have better to be quit until someone comes with the proof.
Sound would be to tell people like these announcers to shut up because they have no proof and never will. All what they are doing is defamating Vas.
And to let it look the least suspicious they did NOT push a Norm S. in front, no, the youngest student is making these claims so that it always can be explained and excused that he's still so young.
That style isnt right. But as I told Zach years ago. Ok, he can well follow such agendas but in the long run it will deteriorate his own life as individual and potentially scientist. Such agendas are always wrong because it cant promote someone's own career in science. Not to speak of illegal methods that must be applied to do the investigation. Only caveat. The FBI does the same but it's a State institution in crime affair examinations. But poor private Zach is private and seeing him on the run accusing a Wch this is NOT authorized at all. It's his own agenda, fed by his other supporters. It's a private lynch-like permanent smear on Vas Rajlich.
My other killer argument against Zach is simply the question what is he investigating in the codes of the other commercial engines? Aha, he's not interested at all. Well, then it's clear that he is hunting someone with a special agenda. He isnt doing science or such some.
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The argument explained to young readers: if say all other commercial competitors grab other code into their closed prog code, THEN where is the offense in the allegated violation of whatever by Vas? Is this sound to scapegoat a single player? Where is the crime if all are doing the same?? So, before Zach accused Vas for anything at all he should describe the general situation which is BTW the typical procedere in science. What Zach is doing isnt science. And that will be his burden for the future in his life as scientist if that should ever be his plan at all. There is no excuse because it was well explained why his agenda like research isnt sound. Now you might say, how could I know that everybody is doing the same. That is a good question. Of course I dont know this at all, but the one who is crying wolf against a specific player, must by all means investigate that question, because if he cant find out how will he exclude that they all are doing the same what he especially accused Vas of? This is such a basic argument against Zach's investigation, that he also could have stopped it years ago. The only reason for continuing is that Vas should be scapegoated, nothing else. Please ask me if you dont understand something.)