Interesting position I recently got from Swami

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Re: Interesting position I recently got from Swami {rybka}

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Dann Corbit wrote:
vb4 wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:[d]r5k1/1pq2r1p/1np3p1/p1Nnp3/P6P/1P4P1/3Q1PB1/3RR1K1 w - -
How long until your engine sees Bh3? (It takes a while for h5 to fade).
I am wondering if any engine sees it before ply 19.
Rybka took about 1/2 hour on my hardware, and IvanHoe about a minute.

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Analysis from C:\test\umnew.epd   
2/1/2010 11:18:04 PM Level: Blitz 3/3
Analyzing engine: Rybka 3

1) h5; id "STS(v1.0) Un 
    Searching move: h4-h5
    Best move (Rybka 3): Bg2-h3
    Not found in: 1:00:00
      2	00:00	       1.155	69.571	+0.41	h4h5
      3	00:00	       1.605	96.677	+0.29	h4h5
      4	00:00	       2.929	93.728	+0.35	h4h5
      5	00:00	       4.646	148.672	+0.28	h4h5 Qc7e7
      6	00:00	       8.014	128.224	+0.40	h4h5 Qc7e7 h5xg6
      7	00:00	      22.686	184.368	+0.46	h4h5 Rf7f6 h5xg6 h7xg6 Nc5e4
      8	00:00	      40.867	178.075	+0.44	h4h5 Qc7e7 h5xg6 h7xg6 Nc5d3 Nb6d7 Bg2h3
      9	00:00	      54.796	188.292	+0.44	h4h5 Qc7e7 h5xg6 h7xg6 Nc5d3 Nb6d7 Bg2h3
     10	00:01	     131.757	183.813	+0.49	h4h5 Qc7d6 Nc5e4 Qd6e7 h5xg6 h7xg6 Qd2h6 Rf7g7 Ne4g5
     11	00:01	     171.710	184.502	+0.53	h4h5 Qc7d6 Nc5e4 Qd6e7 h5xg6 h7xg6 Qd2h6 Rf7g7 Ne4g5 Ra8e8
     12	00:02	     327.778	183.814	+0.50	h4h5 Qc7d6 Nc5e4 Qd6f8 Ne4g5 Rf7e7 Bg2h3 Qf8f6 Ng5e4 Qf6f7 Bh3g2 g6xh5
     13	00:06	   1.302.668	215.358	+0.58	h4h5 Qc7e7 h5xg6 h7xg6 Nc5d3 Nb6d7 f2f4 Qe7a3 f4xe5 Nd7b6 Rd1b1 Qa3e7 Bg2e4
     14	00:09	   1.790.698	211.374	+0.66	h4h5 Qc7e7 h5xg6 h7xg6 Nc5d3 Nb6d7 f2f4 Qe7a3 Bg2xd5 c6xd5 f4xe5 Nd7c5 Nd3xc5 Qa3xc5+ Kg1g2 Ra8f8 Re1e2 Rf7f3
     15	00:24	   5.426.033	231.115	+0.68	h4h5 g6xh5 Qd2g5+ Rf7g7 Qg5xh5 Qc7e7 Rd1c1
     16	00:55	  13.431.602	252.403	+0.47	h4h5 g6xh5 Bg2h3 Rf7f6 Qd2g5+ Rf6g6 Bh3e6+ Kg8h8 Qg5xh5 Nd5f4 Qh5xe5+ Qc7xe5 Re1xe5 Nf4xe6 Nc5xe6 Nb6d5 Rd1e1 Rg6g4 Ne6c5 b7b6 Nc5e6 Ra8e8 Re1c1 Nd5b4 Rc1d1 Kh8g8
     17	01:30	  22.784.075	259.957	+0.47	h4h5 g6xh5 Bg2h3 Rf7f6 Qd2g5+ Rf6g6 Bh3e6+ Kg8h8 Qg5xh5 Nd5f4 Qh5xe5+ Qc7xe5 Re1xe5 Nf4xe6 Nc5xe6 Nb6d5 Rd1e1 Rg6g4 Ne6c5 b7b6 Nc5e6 Ra8e8 Re1c1 Nd5b4 Rc1d1 Kh8g8
     18	02:15	  34.814.528	264.340	+0.47	h4h5 g6xh5 Bg2h3 Rf7f6 Qd2g5+ Rf6g6 Bh3e6+ Kg8h8 Qg5xh5 Nd5f4 Qh5xe5+ Qc7xe5 Re1xe5 Nf4xe6 Nc5xe6 Nb6d5 Rd1e1 Rg6g4 Ne6c5 b7b6 Nc5e6 Ra8e8 Re1c1 Nd5b4 Rc1d1 Kh8g8
     19	03:49	  59.285.758	265.380	+0.47	h4h5 g6xh5 Bg2h3 Rf7f6 Qd2g5+ Rf6g6 Bh3e6+ Kg8h8 Qg5xh5 Nd5f4 Qh5xe5+ Qc7xe5 Re1xe5 Nf4xe6 Nc5xe6 Nb6d5 Rd1e1 Rg6g4 Ne6c5 b7b6 Nc5e6 Ra8e8 Re1c1 Nd5b4 Rc1d1 Kh8g8
     20	19:17	 279.941.483	247.835	+0.30	h4h5 g6xh5 Qd2g5+ Rf7g7 Qg5xh5 Qc7e7 Rd1c1 Rg7g5 Qh5h3 Nd5f6 Bg2f3 Nb6d5 Nc5e6 Rg5g6 Bf3xd5 Nf6xd5 Re1xe5 Nd5f4 Ne6xf4 Qe7xe5 Nf4xg6 h7xg6 Qh3d7 Ra8f8 Qd7xb7 Rf8xf2 Kg1xf2 Qe5b2+ Kf2f3 Qb2xc1 Qb7b8+
     20+	33:58	 478.022.913	240.302	+0.67	Bg2h3
     20	39:15	 535.194.413	232.869	+0.75	Bg2h3 Qc7d6 Nc5e4
     21	43:03	 582.067.062	230.818	+0.75	Bg2h3 Qc7d6 Nc5e4
   2/2/2010 2:18:44 AM, Time for this analysis: 01:00:01, Rated time: 1:00:00
Hi Dann,

Following is Rybka results after letting it crunch for 72 hours. What version of Rybka did you use Dann?
I used Rybka 3.0 with 4 CPUs at 3.0 GHz, 2 GB hash tables.
My results are so much differnet then yours?
You did not analyze the position that is posted here. Notice in your key move the rook starts at g5 and moves to h5. Now look at the picture above. There is no rook on g5 for either side.

Avoid move:
Best move (Rybka v2.2n2.mp.w32): Rg5-h5
Not found in: 72:00:00
2 00:00 1.753 1.795.072 -0.43 Ng6e7
3 00:00 3.084 3.158.016 -0.45 Ng6e7
4 00:00 5.468 329.366 -0.36 Ng6e7
5 00:00 7.305 440.018 -0.40 Ng6e7 Qb3f3
6 00:00 16.694 356.138 -0.54 Ng6e7 Qb3f3 Rg5g7
6 00:00 44.638 411.795 -0.41 Ng6f8 Rf2d2 Nf8e6
7 00:00 64.808 383.603 -0.37 Ng6f8 Qb3f3 Nf8d7 Rd1d2
8 00:00 85.672 371.729 -0.46 Ng6f8 Qb3f3 Nf8d7 Rd1f1 Nd7c5
8 00:00 148.028 358.346 -0.39 Kh6g7 Qb3h3 Qe5f6 Bd5b7 f4f3
9 00:00 193.019 370.828 -0.39 Kh6g7 Qb3h3 Qe5f6 Bd5b7 f4f3 g2xf3
9 00:01 317.506 346.247 0.00 Rg5h5 Qb3h3 Rg4g3 Qh3c8 Rg3d3 Rd1f1 h4h3 Qc8xc7
10 00:01 347.632 344.603 -0.02 Rg5h5 Rd1d3 h4h3 g2xh3 Rg4g5 Qb3c3 Rh5h4
11 00:01 388.408 343.462 0.00 Rg5h5 Qb3h3 Rg4g3 Qh3c8 Rg3d3 Rd1f1 h4h3 Qc8xc7 h3xg2+ Rf2xg2 Ng6h4
12 00:01 452.462 352.603 0.00 Rg5h5 Qb3h3 Rg4g3 Qh3c8 Rg3d3 Rd1f1 h4h3 Qc8xc7 h3xg2+ Rf2xg2 Ng6h4
13 00:01 624.834 358.850 0.00 Rg5h5 Qb3h3 Rg4g3 Qh3c8 Rg3d3 Rd1f1 h4h3 Qc8xc7 h3xg2+ Rf2xg2 Ng6h4 Rg2g4
14 00:09 2.887.394 323.985 0.00 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Rh5g5 Rf3f2
15 00:14 4.428.084 318.871 0.00 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Rh5g5 Rf3f2
16 00:17 5.401.673 316.328 0.00 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Rh5g5 Rf3f2
17 00:25 7.645.248 307.745 0.00 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Rh5g5 Rf3f2
18 00:35 10.664.324 308.003 0.00 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Rh5g5 Rf3f2
19 01:17 23.121.237 306.233 0.00 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Rh5g5 Rf3f2
20 01:55 34.019.721 300.752 0.00 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Rh5g5 Rf3f2
21 02:56 51.820.977 301.100 0.00 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Rh5g5 Rf3f2
22 05:03 88.883.166 299.641 0.00 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Rh5g5 Rf3f2
23 18:17 374.129.283 348.958 +0.06 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Qe5f6 Rd1f1 Rh5g5 Rf3f2 Rg4g3 Qb3d1 Rg3a3 Qd1c1 Ra3c3 Qc1d1 Rc3a3 Qd1c1
24 30:53 600.202.459 331.567 +0.05 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Qe5f6 Rd1f1 Rh5g5 Rf3f2 Rg4g3 Qb3d1 Rg3a3 Qd1c1 Ra3c3 Qc1d1 Rc3a3 Qd1c1
25 1:23:34 1.742.593.245 355.867 +0.12 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Qe5f6 Rd1f1 Rh5g5 Rf3f2 Rg4g3 Qb3d1 Rg3a3 Qd1c1 Ra3c3 Qc1d2 Qf6e5 h2h3
26 3:03:13 3.812.252,712 355.107 +0.12 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Qe5f6 Qb3c3 Qf6xc3 Rf3xc3 Ng6e5 Bd5e6 Rg4g7 Be6h3 Kh6g5 Kh1g1 Rh5h8 Bh3f5
27 4:02:21 4.976.006,196 350.418 +0.09 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Qe5f6 Qb3c3 Qf6xc3 Rf3xc3 Ng6e5 Bd5e6 Rg4g7 Be6h3 Kh6g5 Kh1g1 Rh5h8 Bh3f5
28 6:41:03 7.667.766,046 326.290 +0.09 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Qe5f6 Qb3c3 Qf6xc3 Rf3xc3 Ng6e5 Bd5e6 Rg4g7 Be6h3 Kh6g5 Kh1g1 Rh5h8 Bh3f5
29 13:36:38 15.616.131,691 326.352 +0.10 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Qe5f6 Qb3c3 Qf6xc3 Rf3xc3 Ng6e5 Bd5e6 Rg4g7 Be6h3 Kh6g5 Kh1g1 Rh5h8 Bh3f5
30 22:10:43 24.907.343,063 319.439 +0.09 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Qe5f6 Qb3c3 Qf6xc3 Rf3xc3 Ng6e5 Bd5e6 Rg4g7 Be6h3 Kh6g5 Kh1g1 Rh5h8 Bh3f5
31 50:38:55 54.177.252,592 304.260 +0.09 Rg5h5 Rf2f3 Qe5f6 Qb3c3 Qf6xc3 Rf3xc3 Ng6e5 Bd5e6 Rg4g7 Be6h3
2/3/2010 10:49:57 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:00:00, Rated time: 72:00:00

0 of 1 matching moves
2/3/2010 10:49:58 PM, Total time: 12:00:11 AM
Rated time: 72:00:00 = 259200 Seconds
Hi Dann,

You are right my mistake for posting it here. It was in reference to this post by John Merlino, look above.

Post subject: It's time for this position again Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:00 am

I've dug this one up a few times since it was played a little over seven years ago, and I don't think any engine definitively answered the question one way or another.

This is a position from round 3 of Chessmaster vs. GM Larry Christiansen:

[D]8/p1p5/Pp1p2nk/1P1Bq1r1/2P1Pprp/1Q6/5RPP/3R3K b - - 0 53
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