World Chess Championship

[Terry McCracken]

[Event "World Chess Championship"]
[Site "Sofia/Bulgaria"]
[Date "2010.04.24"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2805"]
[BlackElo "2787"]
[PlyCount "59"]
[EventDate "2010.04.24"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventRounds "12"]
[EventCountry "BUL"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. e4 Nxc3 6. bxc3 Bg7 7. Bc4 c5 8. Ne2 Nc6 9. Be3 O-O 10. O-O Na5 11. Bd3 b6 12. Qd2 e5 13. Bh6 cxd4 14. Bxg7 Kxg7 15. cxd4 exd4 16. Rac1 Qd6 17. f4 f6 18. f5 Qe5 19. Nf4 g5 20. Nh5+ Kg8 21. h4 h6 22. hxg5 hxg5 23. Rf3 Kf7 24. Nxf6 Kxf6 25. Rh3 Rg8 26. Rh6+ Kf7 27. Rh7+ Ke8 28. Rcc7 Kd8 29. Bb5 Qxe4 30. Rxc8+ 1-0

[AdminX]

Anand violated to key chess principles. In the opening develop all your pieces & Don't bring your king out into a open position with heavy pieces still on the board.

[Terry McCracken]

Anand violated to key chess principles. In the opening develop all your pieces & Don't bring your king out into a open position with heavy pieces still on the board.

I hope this isn't indicative of the outcome of the match? Anand is showing signs of decline.

[kingliveson]

Anand violated to key chess principles. In the opening develop all your pieces & Don't bring your king out into a open position with heavy pieces still on the board.

Anand's opening was quite ok (you could almost say perfect) until he blundered on move 23.

[d]r1b2rk1/p7/1p3p2/n3qPpN/3pP3/3B1R2/P2Q2P1/2R3K1 b - - 0 23



Analysis by IvanHoe 9.63b x64:

23...Bb7 24.a4 Rfc8 25.Rb1 Kf8 26.Rb5 Qe7 27.Rh3 Nc6 28.Bc4 Ne5 29.Be6 Bxe4 30.Qxd4 Rc1+ 31.Kh2 Qc7 32.Qb4+ Rc5
-/+ (-0.71) Depth: 6 00:00:00 9kN
23...Bb7 24.a4 Rfc8 25.Rb1 Kf8 26.Rb5 Qe7 27.Rh3 Nc6 28.Bc4 Ne5 29.Be6 Bxe4 30.Qxd4 Rc1+ 31.Kh2 Qc7 32.Qb4+ Rc5
-/+ (-0.71) Depth: 6 00:00:00 9kN
23...Bb7 24.a4 Rfc8 25.Rb1 Kf8 26.Rb5 Qe7 27.Rh3 Nc6 28.Bc4 Ne5 29.Be6 Bxe4 30.Qxd4 Rc1+ 31.Kh2 Qc7 32.Qb4+ Rc5
=/+ (-0.63 --) Depth: 7 00:00:00 9kN
23...Bd7 24.Rd1 Be8 25.Ng3 Bf7 26.Ba6 Nc6 27.Rc1
=/+ (-0.68) Depth: 7 00:00:00 16kN
23...Bd7 24.Rd1 Be8 25.Ng3 Bf7 26.Ba6 Nc6 27.Rc1
=/+ (-0.68) Depth: 7 00:00:00 16kN
23...Bd7 24.Qb4 Rac8 25.Bc4+ Nxc4 26.Rxc4 a5 27.Qb3 Rxc4 28.Qxc4+ Rf7 29.Rd3
=/+ (-0.64) Depth: 8 00:00:00 26kN
23...Bd7 24.Qb4 Rac8 25.Bc4+ Nxc4 26.Rxc4 a5 27.Qb3 Rxc4 28.Qxc4+ Rf7 29.Rd3
=/+ (-0.64) Depth: 8 00:00:00 26kN
23...Bd7 24.Qb4 Rac8 25.Bc4+ Nxc4 26.Rxc4 a5 27.Qb3 Rxc4 28.Qxc4+ Rf7 29.Rd3
=/+ (-0.64) Depth: 9 00:00:00 34kN
23...Bd7 24.Qb4 Rac8 25.Bc4+ Nxc4 26.Rxc4 a5 27.Qb3 Rxc4 28.Qxc4+ Rf7 29.Rd3
=/+ (-0.64) Depth: 9 00:00:00 36kN
23...Bd7 24.Qb4 Rac8 25.Bc4+ Nxc4 26.Rxc4 a5 27.Qb3 Rxc4 28.Qxc4+ Rf7 29.Rd3
-/+ (-0.72 !) Depth: 10 00:00:00 67kN
23...Bd7 24.Rg3 Rac8 25.Nxf6+ Qxf6 26.Re1 Rc3 27.e5 Rxd3 28.Rxd3 Qxf5 29.Rxd4 Be6 30.Rd8 g4 31.Rxf8+ Qxf8 32.Qg5+ Qg7 33.Qd8+ Kh7 34.Qd6 Bxa2 35.e6 Qc3 36.Re2 Qc4 37.Qd7+ Kg6 38.e7
=/+ (-0.66) Depth: 10 00:00:00 78kN
23...Bd7 24.Rg3 Rac8 25.Nxf6+ Qxf6 26.Re1 Rc3 27.e5 Rxd3 28.Rxd3 Qxf5 29.Rxd4 Be6 30.Rd8 g4 31.Rxf8+ Qxf8 32.Qg5+ Qg7 33.Qd8+ Kh7 34.Qd6 Bxa2 35.e6 Qc3 36.Re2 Qc4 37.Qd7+ Kg6 38.e7
=/+ (-0.66) Depth: 10 00:00:00 79kN
23...Bd7 24.Rg3 Rac8 25.Nxf6+ Qxf6 26.Re1 Rc3 27.e5 Rxd3 28.Rxd3 Qxf5 29.Rxd4 Be6 30.Rd8 g4 31.Rxf8+ Qxf8 32.Qg5+ Qg7 33.Qd8+ Kh7 34.Qd6 Bxa2 35.e6 Qc3 36.Re2 Qc4 37.Qd7+ Kg6 38.e7
-/+ (-0.74 !) Depth: 11 00:00:00 133kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.e5 Qxe5 26.Qxg5+ Kf7 27.Rh3 Rh8 28.Qg6+ Ke7 29.Rh7+ Rxh7 30.Qxh7+ Kd6 31.Qg6+ Be6 32.Qxe6+ Qxe6 33.fxe6 Kxe6 34.Kf2 Kd6 35.Ke2 Rg8 36.Be4 Rg3 37.Kd2 Ke5
-/+ (-0.73) Depth: 11 00:00:00 160kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.e5 Qxe5 26.Qxg5+ Kf7 27.Rh3 Rh8 28.Qg6+ Ke7 29.Rh7+ Rxh7 30.Qxh7+ Kd6 31.Qg6+ Be6 32.Qxe6+ Qxe6 33.fxe6 Kxe6 34.Kf2 Kd6 35.Ke2 Rg8 36.Be4 Rg3 37.Kd2 Ke5
-/+ (-0.73) Depth: 11 00:00:00 162kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.e5 Qxe5 26.Qxg5+ Kf7 27.Rh3 Rh8 28.Qg6+ Ke7 29.Rh7+ Rxh7 30.Qxh7+ Kd6 31.Qg6+ Be6 32.Qxe6+ Qxe6 33.fxe6 Kxe6 34.Kf2 Kd6 35.Ke2 Rg8 36.Be4 Rg3 37.Kd2 Ke5
=/+ (-0.65 --) Depth: 12 00:00:00 288kN
23...Bd7 24.Rg3 Rac8 25.Nxf6+ Qxf6 26.Re1 Nc6 27.Rxg5+ Kf7 28.Rg6 Qe5 29.Ba6 Rc7 30.Bc4+ Ke8 31.Rh6 Bc8
=/+ (-0.69) Depth: 12 00:00:00 306kN
23...Bd7 24.Rg3 Rac8 25.Nxf6+ Qxf6 26.Re1 Nc6 27.Rxg5+ Kf7 28.Rg6 Qe5 29.Ba6 Rc7 30.Bc4+ Ke8 31.Rh6 Bc8
=/+ (-0.69) Depth: 12 00:00:00 308kN
23...Bd7 24.Rg3 Rac8 25.Nxf6+ Qxf6 26.Re1 Nc6 27.Rxg5+ Kf7 28.Ba6 Rc7 29.Rc1 Qe5 30.Bc4+ Ke8 31.Bd5 Rh8 32.Rg6 Qh2+ 33.Kf1
=/+ (-0.64) Depth: 13 00:00:00 565kN
23...Bd7 24.Rg3 Rac8 25.Nxf6+ Qxf6 26.Re1 Nc6 27.Rxg5+ Kf7 28.Ba6 Rc7 29.Rc1 Qe5 30.Bc4+ Ke8 31.Bd5 Rh8 32.Rg6 Qh2+ 33.Kf1
=/+ (-0.64) Depth: 13 00:00:00 568kN
23...Bd7 24.Rg3 Rac8 25.Nxf6+ Qxf6 26.Re1 Nc6 27.Rxg5+ Kf7 28.Ba6 Rc7 29.Rc1 Qe5 30.Bc4+ Ke8 31.Bd5 Rh8 32.Rg6 Qh2+ 33.Kf1
=/+ (-0.64) Depth: 14 00:00:00 909kN
23...Bd7 24.Rg3 Rac8 25.Nxf6+ Qxf6 26.Re1 Nc6 27.Rxg5+ Kf7 28.Ba6 Rc7 29.Rc1 Qe5 30.Bc4+ Ke8 31.Bd5 Rh8 32.Rg6 Qh2+ 33.Kf1
=/+ (-0.64) Depth: 14 00:00:00 913kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Rxf6 25.Qxg5+ Kf7 26.Rh3 Rg8 27.Rh7+ Kf8 28.Qh4 Rg7 29.Rh8+ Ke7 30.Rh6 Kf7 31.Qh5+ Kf8 32.Rxf6+ Qxf6 33.Rc7 Qf7 34.Qh8+ Qg8 35.Qxg8+ Kxg8 36.f6 Rf7 37.Rxa7
=/+ (-0.63) Depth: 15 00:00:00 2869kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Rxf6 25.Qxg5+ Kf7 26.Rh3 Rg8 27.Rh7+ Kf8 28.Qh4 Rg7 29.Rh8+ Ke7 30.Rh6 Kf7 31.Qh5+ Kf8 32.Rxf6+ Qxf6 33.Rc7 Qf7 34.Qh8+ Qg8 35.Qxg8+ Kxg8 36.f6 Rf7 37.Rxa7
=/+ (-0.63) Depth: 15 00:00:00 2959kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Rxf6 25.Qxg5+ Kf7 26.Rg3 Rf8 27.Rh3 Rg8 28.Rh7+ Kf8 29.Qh4 Rg7 30.Rh8+ Ke7 31.Rh6 Kf7 32.Qh5+ Kf8 33.Rxf6+ Qxf6 34.Rc7 Qf7 35.Qh8+ Qg8 36.Qxg8+ Kxg8 37.f6 Rf7 38.Rxa7
=/+ (-0.63) Depth: 16 00:00:00 4329kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Rxf6 25.Qxg5+ Kf7 26.Rg3 Rf8 27.Rh3 Rg8 28.Rh7+ Kf8 29.Qh4 Rg7 30.Rh8+ Ke7 31.Rh6 Kf7 32.Qh5+ Kf8 33.Rxf6+ Qxf6 34.Rc7 Qf7 35.Qh8+ Qg8 36.Qxg8+ Kxg8 37.f6 Rf7 38.Rxa7
=/+ (-0.63) Depth: 16 00:00:00 4397kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Rxf6 25.Qxg5+ Kf7 26.Rg3 Rf8 27.Rh3 Rg8 28.Rh7+ Kf8 29.Qh4 Rg7 30.Rh8+ Ke7 31.Rh6 Kf7 32.Qh5+ Kf8 33.Rxf6+ Qxf6 34.Rc7 Qf7 35.Qh8+ Qg8 36.Qxg8+ Kxg8 37.f6 Rf7 38.Rxa7
=/+ (-0.63) Depth: 17 00:00:01 6916kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Rxf6 25.Qxg5+ Kf7 26.Rg3 Rf8 27.Rh3 Rg8 28.Rh7+ Kf8 29.Qh4 Rg7 30.Rh8+ Ke7 31.Rh6 Kf7 32.Qh5+ Kf8 33.Rxf6+ Qxf6 34.Rc7 Qf7 35.Qh8+ Qg8 36.Qxg8+ Kxg8 37.f6 Rf7 38.Rxa7
=/+ (-0.63) Depth: 17 00:00:01 7195kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Rxf6 25.Qxg5+ Kf7 26.Rg3 Rf8 27.Rh3 Rg8 28.Rh7+ Kf8 29.Qh4 Rg7 30.Rh8+ Ke7 31.Rh6 Kf7 32.Qh5+ Kf8 33.Rxf6+ Qxf6 34.Rc7 Qf7 35.Qh8+ Qg8 36.Qxg8+ Kxg8 37.f6 Rf7 38.Rxa7
=/+ (-0.55 --) Depth: 18 00:00:04 25452kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Rxf6 25.Qxg5+ Kf7 26.Rg3 Rf8 27.Rh3 Rg8 28.Rh7+ Kf8 29.Qh4 Rg7 30.Rh8+ Ke7 31.Rh6 Kf7 32.Qh5+ Kf8 33.Rxf6+ Qxf6 34.Rc7 Qf7 35.Qh8+ Qg8 36.Qxg8+ Kxg8 37.f6 Rf7 38.Rxa7
=/+ (-0.47 --) Depth: 18 00:00:06 33890kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Rxf6 25.Qxg5+ Kf7 26.Rg3 Rf8 27.Rh3 Rg8 28.Rh7+ Kf8 29.Qh4 Rg7 30.Rh8+ Ke7 31.Rh6 Kf7 32.Qh5+ Kf8 33.Rxf6+ Qxf6 34.Rc7 Qf7 35.Qh8+ Qg8 36.Qxg8+ Kxg8 37.f6 Rf7 38.Rxa7
=/+ (-0.35 --) Depth: 18 00:00:11 54033kN
23...Bd7 24.Nxf6+ Rxf6 25.Qxg5+ Kf7 26.Rg3 Rf8 27.Rh3 Rg8 28.Rh7+ Kf8 29.Qh4 Rg7 30.Rh8+ Ke7 31.Rh6 Kf7 32.Qh5+ Kf8 33.Rxf6+ Qxf6 34.Rc7 Qf7 35.Qh8+ Qg8 36.Qxg8+ Kxg8 37.f6 Rf7 38.Rxa7
= (-0.17 --) Depth: 18 00:00:16 80070kN
23...Bd7 24.Rg3 Kf7 25.Bc4+ Nxc4 26.Rxc4 Rh8 27.Rxd4 Bxf5 28.Rf3 Rxh5 29.Rxf5 Qh2+ 30.Kf2 Qh4+ 31.Kf1 Qh1+ 32.Kf2 Qh4+
= (0.00) Depth: 18 00:00:29 163mN
23...Bb7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.Rg3 Rac8 26.Re1 Rc3 27.e5 Rxd3 28.Qxd3 Qxf5 29.Qxd4 Nc6 30.Qh4 Qf2+ 31.Kh2 Qf4 32.Qxg5+ Qxg5 33.Rxg5+ Kf7 34.Rf1+ Ke8 35.Rxf8+ Kxf8 36.Rh5 Kg7 37.g4 Nd4 38.Kg3 Bd5 39.a3 Kg6 40.Rh8 Ne6 41.Rh2
= (-0.19) Depth: 18 00:00:31 170mN
23...Bb7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.Rg3 Rac8 26.Re1 Rc3 27.e5 Rxd3 28.Qxd3 Qxf5 29.Qxd4 Nc6 30.Qh4 Qf2+ 31.Kh2 Qf4 32.Qxg5+ Qxg5 33.Rxg5+ Kf7 34.Rf1+ Ke8 35.Rxf8+ Kxf8 36.Rh5 Kg7 37.g4 Nd4 38.Kg3 Bd5 39.a3 Kg6 40.Rh8 Ne6 41.Rh2
= (-0.19) Depth: 18 00:00:31 170mN
23...Bb7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.Rg3 Rac8 26.Re1 Rc3 27.e5 Rxd3 28.Qxd3 Qxf5 29.Qxd4 Nc6 30.Qh4 Qf2+ 31.Kh2 Qf4 32.Qxg5+ Qxg5 33.Rxg5+ Kf7 34.Rf1+ Ke8 35.Rxf8+ Kxf8 36.Rh5 Kg7 37.g4 Nd4 38.Kg3 Bd5 39.a3 Kg6 40.Rh8 Ne6 41.Rh2 Kg5 42.Rh7
= (-0.11 --) Depth: 19 00:00:37 198mN
23...Bb7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.Rg3 Rac8 26.Re1 Rc3 27.e5 Rxd3 28.Qxd3 Qxf5 29.Qxd4 Nc6 30.Qh4 Qf2+ 31.Kh2 Qf4 32.Qxg5+ Qxg5 33.Rxg5+ Kf7 34.Rf1+ Ke8 35.Rxf8+ Kxf8 36.Rh5 Kg7 37.g4 Nd4 38.Kg3 Kg6 39.a3 Be4 40.Rh8 Ne2+ 41.Kh4 Nf4 42.Kg3 Kg5 43.Rg8+ Bg6
= (-0.09) Depth: 19 00:00:40 215mN
23...Bb7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.Rg3 Rac8 26.Re1 Rc3 27.e5 Rxd3 28.Qxd3 Qxf5 29.Qxd4 Nc6 30.Qh4 Qf2+ 31.Kh2 Qf4 32.Qxg5+ Qxg5 33.Rxg5+ Kf7 34.Rf1+ Ke8 35.Rxf8+ Kxf8 36.Rh5 Kg7 37.g4 Nd4 38.Kg3 Kg6 39.a3 Be4 40.Rh8 Ne2+ 41.Kh4 Nf4 42.Kg3 Kg5 43.Rg8+ Bg6
= (-0.09) Depth: 19 00:00:41 222mN
23...Bb7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.Rg3 Rac8 26.Re1 Rc3 27.e5 Rxd3 28.Qxd3 Qxf5 29.Qxd4 Qf4 30.Qd6 Kg7 31.Qe7+ Rf7 32.Qxg5+ Qxg5 33.Rxg5+ Kf8 34.e6 Rh7 35.Rd1 Rh6 36.Rxa5 bxa5 37.Rd8+ Ke7 38.Rd7+ Kxe6 39.Rxb7 Rh4 40.Rc7 Kd6 41.Rc2 Rf4 42.Rd2+ Kc5 43.Re2 Rc4 44.Re5+ Kb4
= (-0.01 --) Depth: 20 00:00:53 288mN
23...Bb7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.Rg3 Rac8 26.Re1 Rfe8 27.e5 Rxe5 28.Qxg5+ Qxg5 29.Rxg5+ Kf7 30.Rxe5 Kf6 31.Rxa5 Kxg5 32.Rxa7 Rc3 33.Rxb7 Rxd3 34.Rxb6 Kxf5 35.Rb2 Ra3 36.Kf2 Ke5 37.Ke2 Ke4 38.Kd1 Rd3+ 39.Ke2 Ra3
= (0.00) Depth: 20 00:01:04 354mN
23...Bb7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.Rg3 Rac8 26.Re1 Rfe8 27.e5 Rxe5 28.Qxg5+ Qxg5 29.Rxg5+ Kf7 30.Rxe5 Kf6 31.Rxa5 Kxg5 32.Rxa7 Rc3 33.Rxb7 Rxd3 34.Rxb6 Kxf5 35.Rb2 Ra3 36.Kf2 Ke5 37.Ke2 Ke4 38.Kd1 Rd3+ 39.Ke2 Ra3
= (0.00) Depth: 20 00:01:06 366mN
23...Bb7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.Rg3 Rac8 26.Re1 Rfe8 27.e5 Rxe5 28.Qxg5+ Qxg5 29.Rxg5+ Kf7 30.Rxe5 Kf6 31.Rxa5 Kxg5 32.Rxa7 Rc3 33.Rxb7 Rxd3 34.Rxb6 Kxf5 35.Rb2 Ra3 36.Kf2 Ke5 37.Ke2 Ke4 38.Kd1 Rd3+ 39.Ke2 Ra3
= (0.00) Depth: 21 00:01:16 425mN
23...Bb7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.Rg3 Rac8 26.Re1 Rfe8 27.e5 Rxe5 28.Qxg5+ Qxg5 29.Rxg5+ Kf7 30.Rxe5 Kf6 31.Rxa5 Kxg5 32.Rxa7 Rc3 33.Rxb7 Rxd3 34.Rxb6 Kxf5 35.Rb2 Ra3 36.Kf2 Ke5 37.Ke2 Ke4 38.Kd1 Rd3+ 39.Ke2 Ra3
= (0.00) Depth: 21 00:01:24 466mN
23...Bb7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.Rg3 Rac8 26.Re1 Rfe8 27.e5 Rxe5 28.Qxg5+ Qxg5 29.Rxg5+ Kf7 30.Rxe5 Kf6 31.Rxa5 Kxg5 32.Rxa7 Rc3 33.Rxb7 Rxd3 34.Rxb6 Kxf5 35.Kf2 Rd2+ 36.Kf3 Rd3+ 37.Kf2
= (0.00) Depth: 22 00:01:51 634mN
23...Bb7 24.Nxf6+ Qxf6 25.Rg3 Rac8 26.Re1 Rfe8 27.e5 Rxe5 28.Qxg5+ Qxg5 29.Rxg5+ Kf7 30.Rxe5 Kf6 31.Rxa5 Kxg5 32.Rxa7 Rc3 33.Rxb7 Rxd3 34.Rxb6 Kxf5 35.Kf2 Rd2+ 36.Kf3 Rd3+ 37.Kf2
= (0.00) Depth: 22 00:02:05 710mN
23...Bd7 24.Rg3 Kf7 25.Bc4+ Nxc4 26.Rxc4 Rac8 27.Rxd4 Be8 28.Rd5 Qc7 29.Qd4 Kg8 30.Nxf6+ Rxf6 31.Qxf6 Qxg3 32.Qe6+ Kf8 33.Qxc8 Qe1+ 34.Kh2 Qh4+ 35.Kg1 Qe1+
= (0.00) Depth: 23 00:03:52 1350mN
23...Bd7 24.Rg3 Kf7 25.Bc4+ Nxc4 26.Rxc4 Rac8 27.Rxd4 Be8 28.Rd5 Qc7 29.Qd4 Kg8 30.Nxf6+ Rxf6 31.Qxf6 Qxg3 32.Qe6+ Kf8 33.Qxc8 Qe1+ 34.Kh2 Qh4+ 35.Kg1 Qe1+
= (0.00) Depth: 23 00:04:03 1413mN

[Terry McCracken]

How about human analysis? Ted is right, Anand broke two basic rules in chess and lost.

[AdminX]

Anand violated to key chess principles. In the opening develop all your pieces & Don't bring your king out into a open position with heavy pieces still on the board.

Anand's opening was quite ok (you could almost say perfect) until he blundered on move 23.

Far from it I would say if after reaching that position he played that lemon. But hey, in a game anything can happen. Still if you are going to violate general principles then you should have a good reason for doing so.

[Uri Blass]

If people think that white can win after 23...Bd7 then they are free to post the way that they can win with the white pieces against chess engines after this move.

I am not against human analysis when it is checked with chess engines but I do not see the point in saying that anand broke basic rules without showing how to punish him for that.


Serious human analysis is an analysis that shows how to win with white
against chess engines after 23...Bd7 in case that white is winning.

Uri

[muxecoid]

I know that engines are bad at openings, but I analyzed the position just before the Qd6 novelty with Stockfish.

[D] r1bq1r2/p4pkp/1p4p1/n7/3pP3/3B4/P2QNPPP/2R2RK1 b - - 1 16

At depth 28 with 4 PVs
Bb7 = -0.28
Qd6 = 0.00
Re8 = 0.00
Kg8 = 0.00

Probably Bb7 is the best move, it was played in Karjakin, Sergey - Carlsen, Magnus Foros Aerosvit 2008. Black must develop the bishop, queen can wait.

[AdminX]

If people think that white can win after 23...Bd7 then they are free to post the way that they can win with the white pieces against chess engines after this move.

I am not against human analysis when it is checked with chess engines but I do not see the point in saying that anand broke basic rules without showing how to punish him for that.


Serious human analysis is an analysis that shows how to win with white
against chess engines after 23...Bd7 in case that white is winning.

Uri

But Uri, Anand did not play Bd7! So He did not Develop all his Pieces, And He Did Play His King to F7, Bringing his king into and Open board with Heavy Pieces still on the Board. This is a FACT.

[Terry McCracken]

If people think that white can win after 23...Bd7 then they are free to post the way that they can win with the white pieces against chess engines after this move.

I am not against human analysis when it is checked with chess engines but I do not see the point in saying that anand broke basic rules without showing how to punish him for that.


Serious human analysis is an analysis that shows how to win with white
against chess engines after 23...Bd7 in case that white is winning.

Uri

But Uri, Anand did not play Bd7! So He did not Develop all his Pieces, And He Did Play His King to F7, Bring his king into and Open board with Heavy Pieces still on the Board. This is a FACT.

Ted as I've learned long ago, facts don't impress around here or anywhere else for that matter...sigh...