Computer Chess 2010 in Thüringen

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kranium
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Re: Computer Chess 2010 in Thüringen

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metax wrote:Does anyone know what that is supposed to mean:
Shark is network based deep search meta engine. It is based on unique idea by which it reaches to depth of 25+ easily with the help of only 6 CPUs in less than a minute. Currently a dual core CPU takes more than an hour to reach to this depth.
(from http://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/Hydra)
Now that's a good one..
perhaps Dr. Hyatt can shed some light upon 'deep search meta engines'

:) sounds like marketing BS 'sound bytes' to me...
but who knows?

acording to
http://searchsqlserver.techtarget.com/definition/meta

DEFINITION -
Meta is a prefix that in most information technology usages means "an underlying definition or description."
Thus, metadata is a definition or description of data and metalanguage is a definition or description of language.
Meta (pronounced MEH-tah in the U.S. and MEE-tah in the U.K.) derives from Greek, meaning "among, with, after, change."
Whereas in some English words the prefix indicates "change" (for example, metamorphosis), in others, including those related to data and information, the prefix carries the meaning of "more comprehensive or fundamental."

does anyone actually understand it's usage here?
deep search meta engine

man, sorry! now i'm really confused... :D
(of course that doesn't take much!)
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Re: Computer Chess 2010 in Thüringen

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metax wrote:Does anyone know what that is supposed to mean:
Shark is network based deep search meta engine. It is based on unique idea by which it reaches to depth of 25+ easily with the help of only 6 CPUs in less than a minute. Currently a dual core CPU takes more than an hour to reach to this depth.
(from http://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/Hydra)
seems a little Rybka like. A few to many 5.12's for my liking

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Re: Computer Chess 2010 in Thüringen

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Harvey Williamson wrote:
metax wrote:Does anyone know what that is supposed to mean:
Shark is network based deep search meta engine. It is based on unique idea by which it reaches to depth of 25+ easily with the help of only 6 CPUs in less than a minute. Currently a dual core CPU takes more than an hour to reach to this depth.
(from http://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/Hydra)
seems a little Rybka like. A few to many 5.12's for my liking

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Not that it matters all that much. Hardware is important, but in a game anything can happen. I remember Rybka on my quad beat Spark 1.30 running on 16 cores.


[Event "Rated game, 5m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2009.06.09"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Akhtar"]
[Black "NYTed"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B90"]
[WhiteElo "2759"]
[BlackElo "2686"]
[Annotator "Rybka 3 (120s)"]
[PlyCount "130"]
[EventDate "2009.10.06"]
[TimeControl "300"]

{Shark 1.30 (single): 16.3 plies; 401kN/s Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU W5580
@ 3.20GHz 3200MHz, (16 CPUs), 2048 MB B90: Sicilian Najdorf: Unusual White 6th
moves, 6 Be3 Ng4 and 6 Be3 e5} 1. Nf3 {B 0} c5 {-0.05/1 0} 2. e4 {B 0} d6 {-0.
05/1 0} 3. Nc3 {B 0} Nf6 {-0.05/1 0} 4. d4 {B 0} cxd4 {-0.05/1 0} 5. Nxd4 {B 0}
a6 {-0.05/1 0} 6. f3 {B 0} e5 {-0.05/1 0} 7. Nb3 {B 0} Be6 {-0.05/1 0} 8. Be3 {
B 0} h5 {-0.05/1 0} 9. Be2 {B 0} Nbd7 {-0.05/1 0} 10. Nd5 {B 0} Bxd5 {-0.05/1 0
} 11. exd5 {B 0} g6 {-0.05/1 0} 12. Qd2 {B 0} Bg7 {-0.05/1 0} (12... Qc7 13. c4
Bg7 14. Rc1 b6 15. O-O O-O 16. Qc2 Rfe8 17. Nd2 a5 18. Ne4 Nc5 19. b3 Nh7 20.
Nc3 f5 21. a3 Nf6 22. h3 Kh7 23. Nb5 Qb8 24. b4 Ncd7 25. Rfd1 Bh6 26. Bxh6 Kxh6
27. Qd2+ {Turutin,A (2321)-Tihonov,J (2470)/Zvenigorod 2008/EXT 2009/1/2-1/2
(34)}) 13. c4 $146 {B 0} (13. O-O O-O 14. Na5 Qc7 15. c4 b6 (15... e4 16. f4
Rfe8 17. h3 Nc5 18. b4 Nd3 19. f5 Nd7 20. Rad1 Rac8 21. Bxd3 exd3 22. Bf4 Qb6+
23. Kh1 Nf6 24. fxg6 fxg6 25. c5 dxc5 26. Qxd3 Qxb4 27. Qxg6 Qxa5 28. d6 Nd7
29. Bh6 Qc3 30. Rf7 {Vorobiov,E (2552)-Loskutov,O (2433)/Tomsk 2004/CBM 102/
[Ftacnik]/1-0 (33)}) 16. Nc6 Nb8 17. Nb4 (17. Nxb8 Raxb8 18. b4 Nd7 19. Rac1
Kh7 20. g4 hxg4 21. fxg4 f6 22. Rf3 e4 23. Rh3+ Kg8 24. Bh6 Ne5 25. Bxg7 Qxg7
26. Qe3 Nf7 27. Rg3 Qh6 28. Rf1 Ng5 29. Kg2 Qh4 30. Qf4 Rbd8 31. Qf2 Rb8 {
Martin,B (1951)-Papp,T (2213)/Balatonlelle 2005/EXT 2008/1/2-1/2 (31)}) 17...
Nbd7 18. Rac1 Nc5 19. Nc6 a5 20. b3 Nfd7 21. Bd1 Nb8 22. Nxb8 Rfxb8 23. a3 Nd7
24. Bc2 Qd8 25. Rce1 b5 26. Bd3 b4 27. a4 Rc8 {Yu,L (2328)-Chen Fan (2354)/
Wuxi 2005/CBM 106 ext/1/2-1/2 (45)}) (13. O-O O-O $11) 13... O-O {-0.05/1 0}
14. O-O {B 0} e4 {-0.05/1 0} 15. f4 {B 0 Black has a new passed pawn: e4} Ng4 {
-0.05/1 0} 16. Bd4 {B 0} Nh6 {-0.05/1 0} 17. Bxg7 {B 0} Kxg7 {-0.05/1 0} 18.
Nd4 {B 0} Nf5 {-0.05/1 0} 19. Nxf5+ {B 0} gxf5 {-0.05/1 0} 20. Bxh5 {B 0} Rh8 {
-0.05/1 0} 21. Be2 {B 0} Qh4 {-0.05/1 0 Black threatens to win material: Qh4xh2
} 22. Qc3+ {B 0} Kg6 {-0.05/1 0} 23. h3 {0.45/15 3} Rh6 {-0.05/1 0} 24. Kh2 {
0.44/16 6} Rg8 {-0.05/1 0} 25. Qe3 {0.42/16 10} Kh7 {-0.05/1 0 Black king
safety improved} 26. Rg1 {0.34/17 5} b5 {-0.05/1 0} 27. b3 {0.45/15 5} Kh8 {-0.
05/1 0} 28. Raf1 {0.29/14 5} b4 {-0.05/1 0} 29. Qf2 {0.34/17 9} Qf6 {-0.05/1 0}
30. g4 {0.35/17 6} fxg4 {-0.05/1 0} 31. Bxg4 {0.32/18 31} Nc5 {-0.05/1 0 The
knight is not easily driven from c5} 32. Rg3 {0.32/18 6} a5 {0.24/5 0} 33. Rfg1
{0.33/17 11} Rgg6 {0.24/15 0} 34. Qe3 {0.36/16 4} Rh7 {0.23/15 0} 35. R1g2 {0.
33/16 5} Kg8 {0.20/16 9} 36. Be2 {0.34/16 0 (Rf2)} Kf8 {0.13/15 13} 37. Rg5 {
0.31/15 6} Ke7 {0.12/16 9} 38. Bd1 {0.30/14 2} Kd7 {0.01/15 13} 39. Bg4+ {0.22/
13 3} Kc7 {0.12/15 19} 40. Rd2 {0.11/16 0} Rh8 {0.00/15 3} 41. Kg3 {0.11/15 4
White king safety dropped} Rgh6 {0.00/15 14} 42. Qd4 {0.10/14 4 (Rf5)} Qe7 {-0.
08/10 0} 43. Kg2 {0.08/16 23 (Bf5)} Kb7 {0.00/14 7} 44. Qe3 {0.09/16 0} (44.
Bf5 Rh4 45. Rg3 Nd3 $11) 44... f6 $15 {0.00/14 8 Black threatens to win
material: f6xg5} 45. Rf5 {0.11/14 1} Qh7 {-0.06/15 12} 46. Kf1 {0.00/16 4
White king safety improved} Ra8 {-0.17/15 2 Black prepares a4} 47. Rh2 {0.00/
15 9 (Rg2)} a4 {-0.24/13 4} 48. bxa4 {-0.13/14 6 (Qe1)} Rxa4 {-0.41/12 2} 49.
Qd2 {-0.12/14 1 (Qd4)} (49. Qd4 Kc7 50. Qb2 e3 $15) 49... Ka6 $17 {-0.22/13 7}
50. Qb2 {-0.49/13 0} (50. Kg1 Nd3 51. Qe3 Qa7 52. Qxa7+ Kxa7 $17) 50... e3 {-0.
31/12 6} 51. Kg1 {-0.58/13 0 (Qb1)} Ka5 {-0.71/10 1} 52. Re2 {-0.39/13 3} Qe7 {
-0.88/13 6} (52... Qg8 53. Rg2 Qg6 $17) 53. Qb1 $2 {-0.87/14 0 (Rh5)} (53. Rh5
$142 $5 Rxh5 54. Bxh5 Qg7+ 55. Bg4 $17) 53... Ra3 $19 {-0.88/11 0} 54. Kg2 {-1.
36/13 7 (Rb2)} (54. Kh2 Qe4 55. Qxe4 Nxe4 $19) 54... Na4 {-1.56/12 3} 55. Qe1 {
-1.63/12 3 (c5)} (55. c5 Nxc5 56. Qc1 Rc3 $19) 55... Qe4+ {-1.59/10 0} 56. Kg1
{-2.22/13 2} (56. Kh2 Rd3 57. Qh1 Qxh1+ 58. Kxh1 Nc3 $19) 56... Nc5 {-1.99/13 2
} 57. Kh2 {-2.57/13 4 (Qc1)} (57. Qg3 Qxc4 58. Rh5 Ne4 $19) 57... Nd3 {-2.26/
10 0} (57... Qxc4 {keeps an even firmer grip} 58. Rxe3 Rxa2+ 59. Kg3 $19) 58.
Qb1 {-3.17/14 10} (58. Qg1 {is no salvation} Nxf4 59. Rxf4 Qxf4+ 60. Qg3 Qxg3+
61. Kxg3 Kb6 $19) 58... Rc3 {-3.07/15 0} 59. Qh1 {-3.17/13 14} Qd4 {-4.01/14 0}
60. c5 {-3.04/13 12 (Qg2)} (60. Qg1 {does not solve anything} Nxf4 61. Rxf4
Qxf4+ 62. Qg3 Qxc4 $19) 60... Nxf4 {-4.40/10 1} 61. cxd6 {-3.04/13 8} Nxe2 {-5.
33/11 0} 62. Bxe2 {-4.85/9 3 (d7)} (62. d7 {is still a small chance} Rh8 63.
Bxe2 $19) 62... Rc2 {-5.11/8 0} 63. Qf1 {-12.29/10 8 (Qg2)} Qg4 {-12.11/9 4}
64. Rf3 {-11.79/7 8 (Rf2)} Rxe2+ $1 {-29.99/8 7 Decoy: e2} 65. Qxe2 {-18.65/8 0
} Rxh3+ $3 {-19.25/7 2 Akhtar,Shark 1.30 resigns. Deflection: f3. . . .} (65...
Rxh3+ 66. Rxh3 Qxe2+ 67. Kg3 Qf2+ 68. Kg4 Qg2+ 69. Rg3 f5+ 70. Kf4 Qe4+ 71. Kg5
e2 72. Rg1 Qe3+ 73. Kh5 Qxg1 74. d7 Qg4+ 75. Kh6 Qh4+ 76. Kg6 e1=Q 77. a3 bxa3
78. d8=R Qxd8 79. d6 Qe6+ 80. Kh5 Qf7+ 81. Kh6 Qh4#) 0-1
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