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Edward German

Re: Next: Time-BUG!

Post by Edward German »

Edward German wrote:
gerold wrote:Thanks Eduard.
Rybka 4 will have to get a lot stronger than that to
compete with the top 2 engines. :)

Best,
Gerold.
Before few minutes on playchess, I was kíbitzing this game, unbelievable but real! :)

[Event "5m + 0s, rated"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2010.05.12"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Highendman, Rybka 4Beta1SSE4 sla"]
[Black "Zunêor, Rybka 3 &"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2809"]
[BlackElo "2753"]
[PlyCount "219"]
[EventDate "2010.05.12"]
[EventType "blitz"]

1. d4 {B/0 0} d5 {0} 2. c4 {B/0 0} e6 {0} 3. Nf3 {B/0 0} Nf6 {0} 4. g3 {B/0 0}
a6 {0} 5. Nbd2 {B/0 0} Nc6 {0} 6. Bg2 {B/0 0} g6 {0} 7. b3 {B/0 0} Qe7 {9} 8.
O-O {0.32/18 39} Bg7 {6} 9. a4 {0.34/17 1} a5 {11} 10. Ba3 {0.33/17 0} Nb4 {2}
11. Ne5 {0.33/18 13} O-O {5} 12. Rc1 {0.33/17 0} Re8 {11} 13. Re1 {0.39/16 21}
Qd8 {6} 14. Ndf3 {0.39/17 34} Ne4 {6} 15. Nd3 {0.39/17 0} Bf8 {9} 16. Bxb4 {
0.42/17 11} Bxb4 {5} 17. Nxb4 {0.42/16 6} axb4 {0} 18. Qd3 {0.41/17 8} Nc3 {0}
19. Nd2 {0.41/16 2} dxc4 {0} 20. Nxc4 {0.34/16 6} Ra6 {0} 21. Rxc3 {0.35/14 9}
bxc3 {2} 22. Qxc3 {0.30/16 1} Qe7 {7} 23. Ne5 {0.27/16 11} f6 {5} 24. Nd3 {
0.26/16 0} Ra7 {8} 25. Rc1 {0.26/16 0} b6 {5} 26. Nb4 {0.24/17 0} Bd7 {11} 27.
Nc6 {0.25/18 0} Bxc6 {5} 28. Bxc6 {0.30/19 0} Rb8 {4} 29. e4 {0.35/18 10} Kg7 {
6} 30. d5 {0.35/20 0} e5 {3} 31. b4 {0.40/17 11} h5 {9} 32. h4 {0.40/18 0} Rf8
{2} 33. Bb5 {0.40/18 15} Rd8 {8} 34. Qd2 {0.42/17 8} Kh7 {5} 35. Kg2 {
0.42/17 21} Kg7 {3} 36. Rc6 {0.42/16 0} Rd6 {5} 37. Rc4 {0.54/17 0} Qd8 {35}
38. Qc3 {0.71/17 8} Qb8 {3} 39. Bc6 {0.72/17 0} Qc8 {1} 40. a5 {0.82/16 3} Qb8
{0} 41. Qa3 {0.82/18 4} Qc8 {0} 42. Bb5 {0.91/17 3} Qd8 {0} 43. Qc3 {0.83/17 6}
Qe7 {14} 44. a6 {1.03/15 3} Qf7 {0} 45. Ba4 {1.09/17 3} Kf8 {7} 46. b5 {
1.09/19 3} Ke8 {1} 47. Qb4 {1.09/16 4} Qf8 {2} 48. Qd2 {1.09/17 2} Kd7 {2} 49.
Bc2 {1.09/16 3} Qg7 {2} 50. Rc3 {1.09/16 3} Kc8 {2} 51. Bd1 {1.09/17 0} Kb8 {0}
52. Rc1 {1.09/16 0} Qf8 {0} 53. Bf3 {1.09/15 0} Qe8 {1} 54. Qh6 {1.10/16 2} Qg8
{0} 55. Kg1 {1.10/16 0} Rd7 {1} 56. Rc6 {1.10/16 2} Rd6 {3} 57. Rc3 {1.11/18 0}
Qe8 {2} 58. Bg2 {1.24/15 1} Ka8 {16} 59. Bh3 {1.96/14 2} f5 {3} 60. Rc6 {
2.23/13 1} fxe4 {2} 61. Bg2 {2.24/14 1} Rxc6 {0} 62. dxc6 {2.50/15 0} e3 {0}
63. Qxe3 {2.67/18 0} Kb8 {0} 64. Qd3 {2.80/18 0} Ra8 {1} 65. Qd7 {3.07/18 0}
Qc8 {0} 66. Be4 {3.07/16 0} Ka7 {9} 67. Qe7 {3.41/19 0} Qd8 {0} 68. Qxe5 {
3.14/18 0} Rc8 {0} 69. Bxg6 {3.14/17 0} Qh8 {0} 70. Qxh5 {3.18/17 0} Qg7 {0}
71. Kg2 {3.41/16 1} Rf8 {1} 72. Qh7 {3.47/16 2} Qe5 {0} 73. Bd3 {3.47/15 0} Rh8
{1} 74. Qf5 {4.09/14 1} Qe8 {1} 75. Qd7 {4.16/17 0} Qb8 {0} 76. Bc4 {4.28/17 0}
Rd8 {0} 77. Qg7 {4.32/17 2} Rh8 {0} 78. f4 {4.44/15 0} Qd8 {6} 79. f5 {
4.58/17 0} Qd6 {1} 80. Qd7 {4.58/17 0} Qe5 {1} 81. f6 {3.89/16 1} Qe4+ {0} 82.
Kh2 {4.66/14 1} Rxh4+ {0} 83. gxh4 {5.01/15 1} Qxh4+ {0} 84. Kg2 {5.02/19 0}
Qg5+ {0} 85. Kf3 {5.02/18 0} Qxf6+ {1} 86. Ke4 {5.03/21 0} Qg6+ {5} 87. Qf5 {
5.04/22 0} Qg7 {1} 88. Qe5 {5.08/19 1} Qg4+ {0} 89. Ke3 {5.08/19 0} Ka8 {0} 90.
Bd3 {5.08/19 0} Qd1 {0} 91. Be2 {5.08/19 1} Qc1+ {0} 92. Ke4 {5.08/19 1} Qa3 {1
} 93. Bh5 {5.08/21 0} Qf8 {0} 94. Kd3 {5.08/19 1} Qf1+ {0} 95. Ke3 {5.08/20 1}
Qc1+ {0} 96. Ke2 {5.08/21 0} Qc4+ {0} 97. Kf3 {5.08/20 1} Kb8 {1} 98. Ke3 {
5.08/17 0} Qc1+ {0} 99. Kd3 {5.08/18 1} Qb1+ {0} 100. Ke2 {5.08/20 0} Qc1 {0}
101. Kf2 {5.08/18 0} Qh1 {0} 102. Kg3 {5.09/18 0} Qg1+ {0} 103. Kh4 {5.09/21 0}
Qg8 {0} 104. Be8 {5.09/18 0} Ka8 {0} 105. Kh5 {5.09/18 0} Qf8 {3} 106. Kg5 {
5.09/18 0} Qg8+ {2} 107. Bg6 {5.09/19 0} Qf8 {2} 108. Qe8+ {5.09/19 0} Ka7 {0}
109. Qd7 {5.09/18 0} Qd8+ {0} 110. Qxd8 {(Lag: Av=0.74s, max=2.6s) 15.10/0 0}
1/2-1/2

Rybka 4Beta1SSE4 sla eval = 110. Qxd8 15.10/0 0, but game is draw!

Endposition:

Highendman,Rybka 4Beta1SSE4 sla - Zunêor,Rybka 3 &", 5m + 0s, rated blitz 2010:

[D]3Q4/k1p5/PpP3B1/1P4K1/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 110

:-)

ED.
Before few minutes, Rybka 4Beta1SSE4 sla loses on time!

[Event "5m + 0s, rated"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2010.05.12"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Zunêor, Rybka 3 V"]
[Black "Highendman, Rybka 4Beta1SSE4 sla"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2743"]
[BlackElo "2823"]
[PlyCount "231"]
[EventDate "2010.05.12"]
[EventType "blitz"]

1. d4 {0} d5 {B/0 0} 2. c4 {0} c6 {B/0 0} 3. Nf3 {0} Nf6 {B/0 0} 4. Nc3 {0} e6
{B/0 0} 5. Bg5 {0} h6 {B/0 0} 6. Bxf6 {0} Qxf6 {B/0 0} 7. Qb3 {0} a5 {B/0 0} 8.
e3 {0} Bd6 {B/0 0} 9. Bd3 {0} O-O {B/0 0} 10. O-O {0} a4 {B/0 0} 11. Qc2 {0} a3
{B/0 0} 12. bxa3 {0} dxc4 {0.07/17 24} 13. Ne4 {0} Qe7 {0.00/16 24} 14. Qxc4 {0
} Bxa3 {-0.04/17 18} 15. Rab1 {0} Na6 {-0.10/17 17} 16. Ne5 {5} Nb4 {-0.10/17 0
} 17. Rb3 {20} b5 {-0.15/16 15} 18. Qc3 {7} Nxd3 {-0.08/17 0} 19. Qxd3 {11} Bb7
{-0.09/17 12} 20. f4 {0} Ra6 {-0.15/16 15} 21. Qc2 {0} Rfa8 {-0.15/17 10} 22.
Ra1 {0} Ra4 {-0.19/17 9} 23. Nc3 {0} R4a5 {-0.32/15 4} 24. Rab1 {8} R5a7 {
-0.33/16 0} 25. Ne4 {2} f5 {-0.40/15 3} 26. Nc3 {6} Bd6 {-0.50/17 0} 27. Nd3 {9
} Bc8 {-0.50/18 0} 28. Qd2 {4} Bd7 {-0.50/16 0} 29. R1b2 {1} Be8 {-0.47/17 12}
30. Rc2 {57} Rd8 {-0.39/15 13} 31. Qe1 {0} g5 {-0.39/15 5} 32. Ne2 {8} Ra4 {
-0.39/15 0} 33. Nc3 {13} Ra6 {-0.39/14 7} 34. Ne2 {0} Qa7 {-0.42/15 12} 35.
Nec1 {3} Ra4 {-0.43/15 11} 36. g3 {0} gxf4 {-0.63/13 4} 37. gxf4 {5} Kh7 {
-0.49/15 0} 38. Rg2 {1} Qe7 {-0.40/15 4} 39. Rbb2 {3} Bh5 {-0.33/15 0} 40. Rg3
{5} Rda8 {-0.21/14 0} 41. Qf2 {1} Ra3 {-0.13/13 6} 42. Nb3 {5} Qa7 {-0.10/14 5}
43. Rg2 {0} Rg8 {0.00/15 7} 44. Rxg8 {3} Kxg8 {0.00/15 0} 45. h3 {5} Kh7 {
0.04/15 7} 46. Nbc5 {0} Qe7 {0.00/15 4} 47. Rd2 {1} Ra8 {0.00/16 7} 48. Kh2 {2}
Rg8 {0.03/15 8} 49. Rb2 {7} Qg7 {0.00/16 0} 50. Rc2 {2} Qe7 {0.23/15 1} 51. Rc1
{0} Bxc5 {0.19/14 1} 52. Nxc5 {3} Qd6 {0.16/17 3} 53. Rg1 {2} Rxg1 {0.16/18 3}
54. Kxg1 {2} Qd5 {0.16/20 0} 55. a4 {1} bxa4 {0.16/19 0} 56. Nxa4 {1} Qf3 {
0.16/20 0} 57. Qxf3 {0} Bxf3 {0.10/24 0} 58. Kf2 {2} Bd5 {0.10/27 0} 59. Kg3 {1
} Kg7 {0.10/27 2} 60. Nc5 {2} Kf6 {0.10/28 0} 61. Kh4 {2} Kg6 {0.10/28 0} 62.
Nd7 {1} Bg2 {0.10/28 0} 63. Ne5+ {1} Kf6 {0.10/26 2} 64. Kg3 {0} Be4 {0.09/26 2
} 65. Kf2 {2} Ke7 {0.09/24 2} 66. Nc4 {0} Bd5 {0.09/25 2} 67. Na5 {2} Kd7 {
0.09/26 0} 68. Nb7 {2} Kc7 {0.09/27 0} 69. Nc5 {0} Kd6 {0.09/27 0} 70. Kg3 {1}
Bc4 {0.09/26 2} 71. Kf3 {1} Bd5+ {0.09/26 1} 72. Kf2 {0} Bh1 {0.09/25 0} 73.
Ke2 {0} Kd5 {0.09/24 1} 74. h4 {0} Be4 {0.09/24 0} 75. Kd2 {0} Bg2 {0.09/24 2}
76. Nb7 {3} Bf3 {0.09/23 1} 77. Kd3 {1} Be4+ {0.09/26 0} 78. Ke2 {2} Bg2 {
0.09/26 0} 79. Ke1 {2} Bf3 {0.09/24 1} 80. Kf1 {5} Bh5 {0.09/23 1} 81. Nc5 {2}
Bg4 {0.09/25 1} 82. Kg2 {0} Bd1 {0.09/23 1} 83. Kf2 {1} Bg4 {0.09/25 1} 84. Nb7
{2} Bd1 {0.09/24 1} 85. Nd8 {2} Bb3 {0.01/21 1} 86. Nf7 {0} h5 {0.01/22 0} 87.
Ng5 {0} c5 {0.01/23 0} 88. dxc5 {0} Kxc5 {0.01/22 0} 89. Ke2 {0} Bc4+ {
0.01/20 0} 90. Kd2 {1} Bd5 {0.01/24 0} 91. Kd3 {1} Kd6 {0.01/22 1} 92. Kd4 {0}
Bg2 {0.01/24 0} 93. Nf7+ {1} Ke7 {0.01/24 0} 94. Ne5 {0} Bd5 {0.01/25 0} 95.
Kc5 {0} Ba8 {0.01/19 0} 96. Nd3 {0} Be4 {0.01/24 0} 97. Nb4 {0} Bg2 {0.01/23 0}
98. Nc6+ {1} Kd7 {0.01/23 0} 99. Ne5+ {0} Ke7 {0.01/24 0} 100. Nc4 {0} Bd5 {
0.01/24 0} 101. Nb6 {2} Bf3 {0.01/25 0} 102. Nc8+ {1} Kd7 {0.01/27 0} 103. Nd6
{1} Ke7 {0.01/0 0} 104. Nb5 {1} Bb7 {0.01/0 0} 105. Kd4 {1} Kf6 {0.01/28 0}
106. Nc3 {0} Bf3 {0.01/0 0} 107. Na4 {0} Bc6 {0.01/0 0} 108. Nc5 {2} Bf3 {
0.01/0 0} 109. Nd3 {0} Bd5 {0.01/0 0} 110. Nb2 {2} Be4 {0.01/30 0} 111. Nc4 {1}
Bd5 {0.01/0 0} 112. Nb6 {1} Bf3 {0.01/31 0} 113. Nd7+ {0} Ke7 {0.01/30 0} 114.
Nb8 {0} Bd5 {Highendman,Rybka 4Beta1SSE4 sla offers a draw ' 0.01/0 0} 115. Na6
{1} Kf6 {0.01/30 0} 116. Nb4 {Time (Lag: Av=0.64s, max=2.3s) 0} 1-0

My Conclusion: Only ~ 2 weeks before the release of R4, I see most BUG's in Rybka. Can this be fixed in just two weeks??
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Re: Rybka 4Beta Hardware

Post by alpha123 »

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Jim Walker wrote:Well since it's "Rybka4Beta1" it could just be a very early version that is not close to the final version. You would have to ask whoever was running it.
It can't be a very early version....the damn thing is supposed to be released in less than 2 weeks....
Dr.D
LOL.

But, yeah, it IS an early version. Scary. Let's hope Vas is as much of a magician as they make him out to be....

BTW, was the year ever specified? Could be May 21 2011 or 2012....

Peter
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Re: Next: Time-BUG!

Post by Joerg Oster »

Edward German wrote: My Conclusion: Only ~ 2 weeks before the release of R4, I see most BUG's in Rybka. Can this be fixed in just two weeks??
But why do you care?
I thought you don't like Rybka... :D

Joerg
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Re: Rybka 4Beta Hardware

Post by John Conway »

Jim Walker wrote:Well since it's "Rybka4Beta1" it could just be a very early version that is not close to the final version. You would have to ask whoever was running it.
I agree, it looks like a VERY early version, i.e. pre-Ippolit era. :lol:
Edward German

Re: Next: Time-BUG!

Post by Edward German »

Joerg Oster wrote:
Edward German wrote: My Conclusion: Only ~ 2 weeks before the release of R4, I see most BUG's in Rybka. Can this be fixed in just two weeks??
But why do you care?
I thought you don't like Rybka... :D

Joerg
All in All you are right!

My new favorite engine is FIRE(Bird).

Fire understand (Rybka not in bishop) all underpromotions, and Fire have more endgame knowledge than Rybka. This are for me important aspects.

And all in all at last, the strenght of Fire 1.3 will be ~ egual with Rybka 4.

ED.
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Re: Rybka 4Beta Hardware

Post by gerold »

John Conway wrote:
Jim Walker wrote:Well since it's "Rybka4Beta1" it could just be a very early version that is not close to the final version. You would have to ask whoever was running it.
I agree, it looks like a VERY early version, i.e. pre-Ippolit era. :lol:
If its got a TM problem it must be . :)
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Re: Next: Time-BUG!

Post by Terry McCracken »

Edward German wrote:
Joerg Oster wrote:
Edward German wrote: My Conclusion: Only ~ 2 weeks before the release of R4, I see most BUG's in Rybka. Can this be fixed in just two weeks??
But why do you care?
I thought you don't like Rybka... :D

Joerg
All in All you are right!

My new favorite engine is FIRE(Bird).

Fire understand (Rybka not in bishop) all underpromotions, and Fire have more endgame knowledge than Rybka. This are for me important aspects.

And all in all at last, the strenght of Fire 1.3 will be ~ egual with Rybka 4.

ED.
Do you think it's honest? Do you think Norman is a genius? Would you buy it?
Terry McCracken
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Re: Next: Time-BUG!

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Terry McCracken wrote:
Edward German wrote:
Joerg Oster wrote:
Edward German wrote: My Conclusion: Only ~ 2 weeks before the release of R4, I see most BUG's in Rybka. Can this be fixed in just two weeks??
But why do you care?
I thought you don't like Rybka... :D

Joerg
All in All you are right!

My new favorite engine is FIRE(Bird).

Fire understand (Rybka not in bishop) all underpromotions, and Fire have more endgame knowledge than Rybka. This are for me important aspects.

And all in all at last, the strenght of Fire 1.3 will be ~ egual with Rybka 4.

ED.
Do you think it's honest? Do you think Norman is a genius? Would you buy it?
So how do you think he keeps in improving it Terry :!: :?:
For sure,me and I suppose you,we can't....so he must have enough knowledge to be able to do it....
Dr.D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
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Re: Next: Time-BUG!

Post by seemychess »

vas is not a programmer but a chess im.
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Re: Next: Time-BUG!

Post by alpha123 »

Terry McCracken wrote:
Edward German wrote:
Joerg Oster wrote:
Edward German wrote: My Conclusion: Only ~ 2 weeks before the release of R4, I see most BUG's in Rybka. Can this be fixed in just two weeks??
But why do you care?
I thought you don't like Rybka... :D

Joerg
All in All you are right!

My new favorite engine is FIRE(Bird).

Fire understand (Rybka not in bishop) all underpromotions, and Fire have more endgame knowledge than Rybka. This are for me important aspects.

And all in all at last, the strenght of Fire 1.3 will be ~ egual with Rybka 4.

ED.
1.Do you think it's honest? 2.Do you think Norman is a genius? 3.Would you buy it?
1) Yes.
2) It's a possibility. With all due respect to Norman though, a bit unlikely.
3) Probably.

Peter