Father won again vs R4

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Edward German

Father won again vs R4

Post by Edward German »

In his last 5 games he lost 3 games and won 2, on time of course.

(I was kibitz before few minutes)

[Event "5m + 0s, rated"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2010.05.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "Storm99, Deep Rybka 4 x64"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "2276"]
[BlackElo "2531"]
[PlyCount "281"]
[EventDate "2010.05.27"]
[EventType "blitz"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. d4 {1} d5 {B/0 0} 2. e3 {21} Nf6 {B/0 0} 3. c3 {2} e6 {-0.08/17 18} 4. f4 {2
} c5 {-0.10/18 17} 5. Nf3 {0} Be7 {-0.06/17 11} 6. Bd3 {5} Nbd7 {B/0 0} 7. O-O
{2} O-O {-0.06/17 18} 8. Re1 {1} c4 {-0.16/16 16} 9. Bc2 {2} b5 {-0.25/16 3}
10. a3 {3} Bb7 {-0.31/17 17} 11. Re2 {1} Ne4 {-0.47/16 24} 12. Nbd2 {3} f5 {
-0.47/17 4} 13. Nb1 {1} a5 {-0.64/16 18} 14. Qe1 {3} Qb6 {-0.76/17 8} 15. Kh1 {
1} b4 {-0.83/17 10} 16. Kg1 {1} Bc6 {-1.03/15 9} 17. Kh1 {2} Qb7 {-1.00/16 1}
18. Kg1 {2} b3 {-1.02/17 6} 19. Bd1 {1} Ndf6 {-1.03/16 1} 20. g3 {1} Be8 {
-1.09/16 13} 21. Rg2 {1} Bh5 {-1.03/16 6} 22. Ne5 {5} Bxd1 {-1.01/17 0} 23.
Qxd1 {0} a4 {-1.01/17 0} 24. Qe1 {2} Rad8 {-1.03/15 5} 25. Kh1 {2} Bd6 {
-1.04/16 12} 26. Nf3 {1} Qb5 {-1.06/14 7} 27. Kg1 {1} Be7 {-1.05/15 4} 28. Qe2
{7} Rc8 {-1.07/15 6} 29. Bd2 {3} Qa5 {-1.00/13 4} 30. Be1 {2} Bd6 {-0.86/13 1}
31. Kh1 {1} Rf7 {-0.96/12 3} 32. Kg1 {0} Rb7 {-1.01/14 3} 33. Kh1 {1} Qb5 {
-0.99/13 3} 34. Kg1 {1} g6 {-1.02/13 8} 35. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {-0.98/12 3} 36. Kg1 {0
} Qa5 {-1.00/13 3} 37. Kh1 {1} Qb6 {-1.00/11 2} 38. Kg1 {1} Rf7 {-0.95/10 0}
39. Kh1 {1} Qc7 {-0.95/12 4} 40. Kg1 {1} Rb8 {-0.86/13 6} 41. Kh1 {0} Rff8 {
-0.91/12 3} 42. Kg1 {1} Rh8 {-0.91/11 2} 43. Kh1 {0} Rhe8 {-0.92/10 2} 44. Kg1
{0} Kg8 {-0.92/10 1} 45. Kh1 {0} Be7 {-0.95/10 1} 46. Kg1 {0} Nd6 {-0.93/11 1}
47. Kh1 {1} Nb5 {-1.11/13 1} 48. Qd2 {13} Ne4 {-1.27/10 1} 49. Qc1 {2} Bf6 {
-1.26/10 1} 50. Kg1 {1} Rf8 {-1.16/10 2} 51. Kf1 {1} Kg7 {-1.34/9 1} 52. Kg1 {1
} Be7 {-1.13/12 0} 53. Kf1 {1} h6 {-1.32/9 0} 54. Kg1 {1} g5 {-1.25/12 0} 55.
Kf1 {8} g4 {-1.35/9 0} 56. Nh4 {4} Rfd8 {-1.79/8 1} 57. Kg1 {1} Rd7 {-1.78/12 0
} 58. Kf1 {0} Bf6 {-1.79/9 0} 59. Kg1 {0} Rf7 {-1.73/11 0} 60. Kf1 {1} Kh7 {
-1.78/9 0} 61. Kg1 {0} Rff8 {-1.73/12 0} 62. Kh1 {1} Kg7 {-1.73/9 0} 63. Kg1 {0
} Rb7 {-1.73/10 0} 64. Kh1 {0} Qd7 {-1.73/8 0} 65. Kg1 {0} Kh7 {-1.73/9 0} 66.
Kh1 {1} Qd8 {-1.73/9 0} 67. Kg1 {0} Rg8 {-1.75/9 0} 68. Kf1 {1} Qe7 {-1.82/8 0}
69. Kg1 {4} Rb6 {-1.78/13 0} 70. Kh1 {1} Rbb8 {-1.73/13 0} 71. Kg1 {1} Rg7 {
-1.79/10 0} 72. Kh1 {0} Qd8 {-1.73/11 0} 73. Kg1 {0} Rbb7 {-1.79/9 0} 74. Kh1 {
1} Rg8 {-1.78/12 0} 75. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {-1.78/10 0} 76. Kh1 {0} Qd7 {-1.73/12 0}
77. Kg1 {0} Qe7 {-1.80/8 0} 78. Kh1 {0} Rg7 {-1.73/12 0} 79. Kg1 {0} Kh8 {
-1.79/9 0} 80. Kh1 {0} Qc7 {-1.72/12 0} 81. Kg1 {0} Qd8 {-1.74/8 0} 82. Kh1 {0}
Rg8 {-1.72/12 0} 83. Kg1 {1} Qe7 {-1.79/9 0} 84. Kh1 {0} Kg7 {-1.73/11 0} 85.
Kg1 {0} Rge8 {-1.73/8 0} 86. Kh1 {0} Qb7 {-1.74/8 0} 87. Kg1 {0} Rbc8 {
-1.73/11 0} 88. Kh1 {0} Qb6 {-1.78/6 0} 89. Kg1 {1} Re7 {-1.72/11 0} 90. Kh1 {0
} Rf7 {-1.80/7 0} 91. Kg1 {0} Kg8 {-1.77/6 0} 92. Kh1 {0} Rb7 {-1.73/7 0} 93.
Kg1 {1} Rcc7 {-1.76/7 0} 94. Kh1 {1} Kh7 {-1.73/8 0} 95. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {
-1.73/13 0} 96. Kh1 {1} Qb7 {-1.74/7 0} 97. Kg1 {0} Rg7 {-1.73/5 0} 98. Kh1 {0}
Qc7 {-1.79/7 0} 99. Kg1 {0} Qd8 {-1.84/11 0} 100. Kh1 {0} Rbb7 {-1.83/12 0}
101. Kg1 {0} Kh8 {-1.80/12 0} 102. Kh1 {0} Rg8 {-1.79/12 0} 103. Kg1 {0} h5 {
-1.79/12 0} 104. Kh1 {2} Qb8 {-1.72/12 0} 105. Kg1 {0} Qc7 {-1.73/7 0} 106. Kh1
{0} Kh7 {-1.69/11 0} 107. Kg1 {0} Qg7 {-1.77/7 0} 108. Kh1 {0} Qd7 {-1.69/10 0}
109. Kg1 {0} Qd8 {-1.75/8 0} 110. Kh1 {0} Rgg7 {-1.70/12 0} 111. Kg1 {0} Rb8 {
-1.77/7 0} 112. Kh1 {0} Rd7 {-1.72/11 0} 113. Kg1 {0} Rf7 {-1.73/8 0} 114. Kh1
{0} Kg7 {-1.73/8 0} 115. Kg1 {0} Rd7 {-1.73/8 0} 116. Kh1 {1} Qe7 {-1.73/4 0}
117. Kg1 {0} Kh7 {-1.73/12 0} 118. Kh1 {0} Kh6 {-1.73/5 0} 119. Kg1 {0} Rdd8 {
-1.73/5 0} 120. Kh1 {0} Re8 {-1.73/1 0} 121. Kg1 {0} Rh8 {-1.73/7 0} 122. Kh1 {
0} Rh7 {-1.73/0 0} 123. Kg1 {0} Rg7 {-1.79/4 0} 124. Kh1 {0} Rgg8 {-1.72/12 0}
125. Kg1 {0} Rb7 {-1.79/2 0} 126. Kh1 {0} Qc7 {-1.73/11 0} 127. Kg1 {0} Qh7 {
-1.73/1 0} 128. Kh1 {0} Rbb8 {-1.64/11 0} 129. Kg1 {0} Qe7 {-1.74/3 0} 130. Kh1
{0} Rh8 {-1.71/13 0} 131. Kg1 {1} Rb7 {-1.73/5 0} 132. Kh1 {0} Qg7 {-1.73/2 0}
133. Kg1 {0} Rg8 {-1.73/5 0} 134. Kh1 {0} Rd8 {-1.62/12 0} 135. Kg1 {0} Qc7 {
-1.73/3 0} 136. Kh1 {0} Kg7 {-1.73/2 0} 137. Kg1 {0} Qf7 {-1.73/5 0} 138. Kh1 {
0} Qe7 {-1.62/12 0} 139. Kg1 {0} Kh7 {-1.73/5 0} 140. Qd2 {0} Nxd2 {-8.12/6 0}
141. Bxd2 {Time (Lag: Av=0.98s, max=17.7s) 0} 1-0

[Event "3m + 0s, rated"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2010.05.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "Eptantoin, Deep Rybka 4 x64"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "2288"]
[BlackElo "2607"]
[PlyCount "315"]
[EventDate "2010.05.27"]
[EventType "blitz"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {1} Nf6 {B/0 0} 2. e3 {0} c5 {0.15/15 16} 3. c3 {(Nf3) 0} e6 {-0.05/16 8}
4. f4 {(Nf3) 1} d5 {-0.12/16 14} 5. Nf3 {12} Nc6 {-0.12/17 0} 6. Bd3 {2} Bd6 {
-0.12/16 1} 7. O-O {30} O-O {-0.05/17 0} 8. Re1 {(b3) 1} b6 {-0.13/15 22} 9. g3
{(Ne5) 3} a5 {-0.32/14 6} 10. Nbd2 {(Ne5) 1} Ba6 {-0.24/13 6} 11. Nf1 {(Bxa6) 1
} Bxd3 {-0.64/13 5} 12. Qxd3 {1} a4 {-0.65/14 1} 13. a3 {(N1d2) 1} c4 {
-0.64/15 9} 14. Qc2 {(Qe2) 1} Ne4 {-0.83/15 3} 15. Re2 {(Rd1) 0} f5 {-0.90/16 5
} 16. Rg2 {(N1d2) 0} Na5 {-0.96/15 4} 17. Bd2 {(N1d2) 0} Nb3 {-0.96/13 4} 18.
Re1 {1} Qc7 {-0.93/13 2} 19. Ree2 {(Bc1) 1} Rf6 {-0.95/13 5} 20. Bc1 {1} Rg6 {
-0.94/13 0} 21. Kh1 {(N1d2) 1} b5 {-0.98/14 4} 22. Kg1 {(N1d2) 1} Rh6 {
-0.98/14 3} 23. Bd2 {(N1d2) 1} Rh3 {-1.14/14 5} 24. Be1 {(Bc1) 0} h6 {
-1.09/15 3} 25. Kh1 {(N1d2) 1} Qf7 {-1.01/12 3} 26. Kg1 {(N1d2) 1} Qh5 {
-1.14/13 4} 27. N3d2 {(N1d2) 1} Nf6 {-1.28/16 2} 28. Nb1 {(Nxb3) 7} Na5 {
-1.65/16 2} 29. Nbd2 {(Qd1) 1} Bc7 {-1.59/15 9} 30. Nb1 {(Qd1) 0} Nb7 {
-1.68/16 3} 31. Qd1 {0} Nd6 {-1.68/16 0} 32. Rd2 {(Bf2) 1} Ng4 {-1.67/15 2} 33.
Qe2 {(Rde2) 2} Ne4 {-1.54/11 3} 34. Rc2 {1} Kh7 {-1.38/11 0} 35. Nbd2 {1} Rg8 {
-1.35/13 0} 36. Nf3 {1} Rd8 {-1.15/13 0} 37. Rc1 {(N1d2) 2} Kg8 {-1.14/11 1}
38. Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Nef6 {-1.14/12 2} 39. Rc1 {(N1d2) 0} Qe8 {-1.14/12 2} 40.
Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Bb6 {-1.14/13 2} 41. Rc1 {(N1d2) 0} Kh7 {-1.14/12 1} 42. Rc2 {
(N1d2) 0} Bc7 {-1.14/12 1} 43. Rc1 {(N1d2) 0} Bd6 {-1.14/13 1} 44. Rc2 {
(N1d2) 0} Nd7 {-1.14/13 2} 45. Kh1 {(N1d2) 0} Rh5 {-0.90/10 1} 46. Ng1 {
(N1d2) 1} Qf7 {-0.96/12 1} 47. Nf3 {0} Ndf6 {-0.93/13 0} 48. Kg1 {(N1d2) 0} Rh3
{-1.14/13 0} 49. Rc1 {(N1d2) 1} Kg8 {-1.14/11 1} 50. Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Ne4 {
-1.14/11 0} 51. Rc1 {(N1d2) 1} Re8 {-1.15/11 1} 52. Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Ra8 {
-1.14/10 1} 53. Rc1 {(N1d2) 0} Qh5 {-1.15/11 1} 54. Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Kh7 {
-1.14/9 1} 55. Rc1 {(N1d2) 0} Rf8 {-1.14/9 0} 56. Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Bc7 {
-1.14/10 0} 57. Rc1 {(N1d2) 0} Kh8 {-1.14/9 0} 58. Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Kg8 {
-1.14/9 0} 59. Rc1 {(N1d2) 0} Rc8 {-1.14/9 0} 60. Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Nef6 {
-1.15/10 0} 61. Rc1 {(Kh1) 0} Ra8 {-1.13/9 0} 62. Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Qf7 {-1.15/9 0
} 63. Rc1 {(N1d2) 0} Re8 {-1.14/10 0} 64. Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Nd7 {-1.17/9 0} 65.
Rc1 {(N1d2) 0} Nb8 {-1.21/12 0} 66. Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Nc6 {-1.27/10 0} 67. Rc1 {
(N1d2) 0} Rc8 {-1.28/10 0} 68. Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Bb6 {-1.28/10 0} 69. Rc1 {
(N1d2) 0} Rf8 {-1.17/10 0} 70. Rc2 {(N1d2) 0} Ra8 {-1.23/9 0} 71. Rc1 {(Kh1) 0}
Re8 {-1.08/10 0} 72. Rc2 {(Kh1) 0} Re7 {-1.22/9 0} 73. Rc1 {0} g6 {-1.10/12 0}
74. Rc2 {(Kh1) 0} Kh8 {-1.16/9 0} 75. Rc1 {(N1d2) 0} Qf8 {-1.09/10 0} 76. Rc2 {
(Bf2) 0} Rf7 {-1.12/9 0} 77. Kh1 {(N1d2) 0} Qe7 {-1.09/7 0} 78. Ng1 {(N1d2) 0}
Rh5 {-1.35/4 0} 79. Nf3 {0} Kh7 {-0.99/10 0} 80. Kg1 {(h4) 0} Rh3 {-1.13/9 0}
81. Kh1 {(N1d2) 0} Rf8 {-0.90/8 0} 82. Ng1 {(N1d2) 0} Rh5 {-1.41/5 0} 83. Nf3 {
0} Qa7 {-0.92/10 0} 84. Kg1 {(N1d2) 0} Rh3 {-1.14/8 0} 85. Kh1 {(Bf2) 0} Qf7 {
-1.04/7 0} 86. Ng1 {(Rg1) 0} Rh5 {-1.17/6 0} 87. Nf3 {0} Kh8 {-1.02/11 0} 88.
Kg1 {(Bf2) 0} Rh3 {-1.11/10 0} 89. Kh1 {(Bf2) 0} Bd8 {-1.15/8 0} 90. Ng1 {
(N1d2) 0} Rh5 {-1.17/6 0} 91. Nf3 {0} Bc7 {-0.87/11 0} 92. Kg1 {(h4) 0} Rh3 {
-1.08/10 0} 93. Kh1 {(N1d2) 0} Rg8 {-1.08/7 0} 94. Ng1 {(N1d2) 0} Rh5 {
-1.18/6 0} 95. Nf3 {0} Bb6 {-0.86/11 0} 96. Kg1 {(h4) 0} Rh3 {-1.10/7 0} 97.
Kh1 {(N1d2) 0} Bd8 {-1.06/7 0} 98. Ng1 {(N1d2) 0} Rh5 {-1.23/6 0} 99. Nf3 {0}
Rg7 {-0.87/11 0} 100. Kg1 {(h4) 1} Rh3 {-1.11/8 0} 101. Kh1 {(N1d2) 0} Kg8 {
-1.12/7 0} 102. Ng1 {(N1d2) 0} Rh5 {-1.21/7 0} 103. Nf3 {0} g5 {-0.97/14 0}
104. Kg1 {(h4) 0} Rh3 {-1.06/9 0} 105. Bd2 {(N1d2) 1} Qh5 {-1.18/6 0} 106. Bc1
{(Be1) 1} Bc7 {-1.24/6 0} 107. Rd2 {(N1d2) 1} Re7 {-1.28/7 0} 108. Rc2 {0} Bb6
{-1.15/13 0} 109. Rd2 {(Kh1) 1} Re8 {-1.17/7 0} 110. Rc2 {(Rd1) 0} Kh8 {
-1.26/7 0} 111. Rd2 {(Kh1) 0} Qg6 {-1.18/7 0} 112. Rc2 {(Rd1) 0} Rf8 {-1.21/5 0
} 113. Rd2 {(N1d2) 0} Rg8 {-1.20/5 0} 114. Rc2 {(Rd1) 0} Qh5 {-1.19/5 0} 115.
Rd2 {(N1d2) 0} Bd8 {-1.21/6 0} 116. Rc2 {(Rd1) 0} Kg7 {-1.28/5 0} 117. Rd2 {
(N1d2) 0} Bf6 {-1.18/4 0} 118. Rc2 {(Rd1) 0} Rc8 {-1.27/5 0} 119. Rd2 {(N1d2) 0
} Kg8 {-1.42/2 0} 120. Rc2 {0} Bd8 {-1.17/13 0} 121. Rd2 {0} Rc7 {-1.17/13 0}
122. Rc2 {(Rd1) 0} Rf7 {-1.41/3 0} 123. Rd2 {(N1d2) 0} Be7 {-1.47/3 0} 124. Rc2
{(Rd1) 0} Kg7 {-1.15/5 0} 125. Rd2 {(N1d2) 0} Bd6 {-1.41/2 0} 126. Rc2 {(Rd1) 0
} Bc7 {-1.18/5 0} 127. Rd2 {(N1d2) 1} Rd7 {-1.17/6 0} 128. Rc2 {(Rd1) 0} Rd6 {
-1.21/5 0} 129. Rd2 {(N1d2) 0} Kg8 {-1.17/6 0} 130. Rc2 {(Rd1) 0} Kh8 {
-1.19/5 0} 131. Rd2 {(N1d2) 0} Rd7 {-1.17/5 0} 132. Rc2 {(Rd1) 0} Rg7 {
-1.15/6 0} 133. Rd2 {(N1d2) 0} Kg8 {-1.17/5 0} 134. Rc2 {(Rd1) 0} Bb6 {
-1.20/5 0} 135. Rd2 {(N1d2) 1} Rd7 {-1.58/0 0} 136. Rc2 {(Ne5) 0} Ba5 {
-1.30/2 0} 137. Rd2 {(N1d2) 1} Kg7 {-1.23/4 0} 138. Ne5 {(Rd1) 1} Ngxe5 {
-1.26/6 0} 139. dxe5 {1} Qxe2 {-1.31/16 0} 140. Rdxe2 {(Rgxe2) 4} g4 {-1.39/8 0
} 141. Rd2 {(Kf2) 2} Bb6 {-1.42/5 0} 142. Rd4 {(Rd1) 0} Nxd4 {-2.68/8 0} 143.
exd4 {0} h5 {-2.66/19 0} 144. Bd2 {0} h4 {-2.66/18 0} 145. Be1 {0} hxg3 {
-2.67/19 0} 146. Bxg3 {(hxg3) 1} Ra7 {-2.71/9 0} 147. Kf2 {(Re2) 1} b4 {
-2.82/3 0} 148. cxb4 {(Ke3) 1} Bxd4+ {-2.96/7 0} 149. Ke2 {(Ke1) 2} Bxb2 {
' -5.57/6 0} 150. Kd1 {1} Bxa3 {-7.45/15 0} 151. Kc2 {(b5) 1} Bxb4 {-7.45/2 0}
152. Nd2 {(Kc1) 0} Bc5 {-8.05/3 0} 153. Nxc4 {(Bf2) 1} dxc4 {-8.31/0 0} 154.
Kc3 {0} a3 {-14.32/17 0} 155. Kxc4 {(Ra2) 2} a2 {-14.32/13 0} 156. Rxa2 {0}
Rxa2 {-19.21/15 0} 157. Kxc5 {0} Rc2+ {-#14/17 0} 158. Kd6 {
(Kb6) Time (Lag: Av=0.80s, max=2.1s) 0} 1-0

I guess, this year will be a good year for Pablo, if he can plays against Deep Rybka 4. :)

ED.
Dr.Ex
Posts: 194
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:10 am

R4 stonewalled

Post by Dr.Ex »

It seems much easier to beat or draw Rybka now as human.

[D]r4rk1/1q1nb1pp/2b1p3/p2p1p2/1ppPnP2/P1P1PN2/1PB1R1PP/RNB1Q1K1 b - - 0 18

Is there an engine that plays 18..bxc3 here?
Nimzovik
Posts: 1831
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:08 pm

Re: R4 stonewalled

Post by Nimzovik »

Hmmmmmmmmmm........ I am really anxious for the verdict on R4 in terms of strength and style........ It appears (as usual) that there may be a trade off in terms of search, knowledge, etc. etc. BTW Good Job Pablo. You are a thorn in the side of the machines.
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rhollay
Posts: 150
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:26 pm

Re: Father won again vs R4

Post by rhollay »

Sometimes I wonder if existing engines could be tuned (some of them have a bunch of parameters...) to play Pablo style chess?
Could a "Pablo personality" be created for Prodeo, Crafty 2004 or other engines?
Imagine an engine which builds stonewall against Rybka 4 :D
How much ELO could such an engine gain? Of course, the games they play would not be the most exciting ones...