OK, OK, OK, After all has been said.....

[yanquis1972]

you will not regret it; it loves making the board burn. i am also amazed that it intuitively spotted giri's e5 move from yesterday -- you will of course never come close to winning a game against this guy, but you should enjoy losing.


22: Giri - Grandelius, 2010
[D]r1b1k2r/p3qpp1/2p1n3/1p3P2/2p1P3/6pP/P1NQ2B1/3R1R1K w kq - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 11.2 UCI:

24.fxe6 Bxe6
=/+ (-0.31) Depth: 6 00:00:00 2kN
24.e5 Qc5 25.Qe1 Kf8 26.Qxg3
+/= (0.32) Depth: 6 00:00:00 8kN
24.Qe3 Ng5 25.e5 Kf8 26.Qxg3
+/= (0.41) Depth: 6 00:00:00 16kN
24.Qe3 Ng5 25.e5 Kf8 26.Qxg3 f6
=/+ (-0.37) Depth: 9 00:00:00 46kN
24.fxe6 Bxe6
=/+ (-0.31) Depth: 9 00:00:00 264kN
24.a4 Ng5 25.e5 Rxh3+ 26.Bxh3 Nxh3 27.f6 gxf6 28.axb5 c3 29.Qxc3
= (-0.23) Depth: 9 00:00:00 348kN
24.e5 Kf8 25.Rf3 Nc7 26.Qf4 Nd5 27.Qxg3 Qc5
+/= (0.32) Depth: 9 00:00:00 442kN
24.e5 Rb8 25.Qe3 Ng5 26.Qxg3 Rb6 27.Nd4 c5 28.Nc6 Rxh3+ 29.Bxh3 Rxc6
+/= (0.65) Depth: 12 00:00:01 9817kN
24.e5 Rb8 25.Nb4 Bb7 26.fxe6 Qxe6 27.Kg1 0-0 28.Qf4 c5 29.Nd5 Bxd5 30.Rxd5 Rfd8 31.Rxc5
+/= (0.59) Depth: 13 00:00:02 18263kN
24.e5 Nd8 25.f6 gxf6 26.exf6 Qc7 27.Qe3+ Ne6 28.Nd4 Bd7 29.Nf5 0-0-0 30.Nd6+ Kb8 31.Qxg3 Qb6
+/- (0.77) Depth: 14 00:00:04 35922kN
24.e5 0-0 25.fxe6 Bxe6 26.Qf4 Rad8 27.Nd4 Qa3 28.Qg5 Rxd4 29.Rxd4 b4 30.Bxc6 Qxa2 31.Rd2 Qb3 32.Bg2
+/= (0.61) Depth: 16 00:00:17 143mN
24.e5 0-0 25.fxe6 Bxe6 26.Qf4 b4 27.Rd6 c5 28.Ne3 b3 29.axb3 cxb3 30.Nd5 Bxd5 31.Rxd5 Rad8 32.Rxd8 Rxd8 33.Qxg3
+/= (0.62) Depth: 18 00:00:40 322mN
24.e5 0-0 25.fxe6 Bxe6 26.Qf4 b4 27.Qxg3 b3 28.axb3
+/= (0.66) Depth: 19 00:01:24 643mN
24.e5 0-0 25.fxe6 Bxe6 26.Qf4 Rae8 27.Rd6 c5 28.Qxg3 Bc8
+/- (0.74) Depth: 20 00:04:09 1945mN

[rhollay]

You say you are (were) a ~2100 ELO player.
Do you think there's much difference for you to be crushed by R3 or R4?

I am also playing engines sometimes, but have NEVER bought commercial ones.
I'm quite satisfied with playing freeware engines under Arena. I really enjoy playing
weaker engines against which I have chances to win, or somewhat stronger ones which usually beat me, but not always!

I cannot enjoy games where I KNOW there are absolutely no chances for me to win or draw.

[fern]

Of course there is no difference, that's the reason I claim so much about waiting better guis, frills, etc. The R4 question was thinking in its aquarium gui.

Fern

[tomgdrums]

...is it worth to get R4 for a guy like me that ONLY play the engines, never make analysis of his or another games, competitions between engines, etc?

Fern

It really depends Fernando, I purchased it to help my chess. If you want to learn something i'd say yes, Rybka 4.0 seems to play certain position far better than others. So although I am not a fan of Vas, I am a fan of his engine.

I agree! Rybka 4.0 has already challenged me to learn some stuff in one of my openings!

And Fern, if you are looking for a fun engine to play against, I do recommend the Bobby Junior GUI. The engine has different rated personalities that each have their own opening book within the GUI.

The Bobby Junior GUI is only good for playing against the Junior engine that comes with it. It is useless for analysis but since you aren't doing that anyway it might not matter.

[yanquis1972]

i don't recommend it unless he can pirate it. imo those guys don't deserve any more cash. they've screwed over their customers six ways to sunday.

[tomgdrums]

i don't recommend it unless he can pirate it. imo those guys don't deserve any more cash. they've screwed over their customers six ways to sunday.

I don't recommend anything be pirated since that is theft! Pure and simple!

And no I wasn't completely happy with how slow World Chess Live was at completing the GUI but I did get what I paid for.