kingliveson wrote:
Uri, I couldn't disagree more. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Vas allowing access to his software for a fee. Vas is a business man, and the WC had no rules that you couldn't use any tools available for preparation. It didn't help as the result showed, but that's another story...
Now that I think about it, in a way, Topalov is very lucky to be living in an age where chess software can help combat human preparation. In part, Anand got his wonderful team by being willing to share his preparation with a future competitor and his trainer, an option not available to the ... errr ... more combative personalities in the chess world. If you think about previous paranoid contenders, such as Fischer or Korchnoi, they were always facing large teams of grandmasters and could only counter it with extremely hard work. Now adays, even if you are unwilling or unable to share your thoughts / ideas / preparation with others in a team oriented way, you can at least secure significant hardware support. It would have been amazing to see what Fischer could have done if he had been born in the computer age.
-Sam
One can only imagine....Fischer's IQ was a resounding 189 ! to put that into perspective ....einstien's was around 160. With the power of programs today ...what Fischer might have been able to do is almost scary. That much brain power with so much software power yikes !
Regards
BT
Bear in mind Fischer's IQ is not from a test, but an estimate made.
Einstein's IQ was never measured as well. In both cases the numbers are meaningless, outside that they both had high IQ's. Outside of chess and puzzle solving Fischer wasn't brilliant, Einstein was.
There's a bouncer in the US whose IQ was measured and is over 200. His wife is slightly below 170 but she plays better chess.
kingliveson wrote:
Uri, I couldn't disagree more. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Vas allowing access to his software for a fee. Vas is a business man, and the WC had no rules that you couldn't use any tools available for preparation. It didn't help as the result showed, but that's another story...
Now that I think about it, in a way, Topalov is very lucky to be living in an age where chess software can help combat human preparation. In part, Anand got his wonderful team by being willing to share his preparation with a future competitor and his trainer, an option not available to the ... errr ... more combative personalities in the chess world. If you think about previous paranoid contenders, such as Fischer or Korchnoi, they were always facing large teams of grandmasters and could only counter it with extremely hard work. Now adays, even if you are unwilling or unable to share your thoughts / ideas / preparation with others in a team oriented way, you can at least secure significant hardware support. It would have been amazing to see what Fischer could have done if he had been born in the computer age.
-Sam
One can only imagine....Fischer's IQ was a resounding 189 ! to put that into perspective ....einstien's was around 160. With the power of programs today ...what Fischer might have been able to do is almost scary. That much brain power with so much software power yikes !
Regards
BT
Bear in mind Fischer's IQ is not from a test, but an estimate made.
Einstein's IQ was never measured as well. In both cases the numbers are meaningless, outside that they both had high IQ's. Outside of chess and puzzle solving Fischer wasn't brilliant, Einstein was.
There's a bouncer in the US whose IQ was measured and is over 200. His wife is slightly below 170 but she plays better chess.
So this means what? Right, not too much.
I Googled Fischer IQ, and came up with a page that gave the IQs of many famous people, Fischer being one of them. It had Einstein with an IQ of 160, and Sharon Stone at 154... It took a while for me to stop laughing.
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."
kingliveson wrote:
Uri, I couldn't disagree more. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Vas allowing access to his software for a fee. Vas is a business man, and the WC had no rules that you couldn't use any tools available for preparation. It didn't help as the result showed, but that's another story...
Now that I think about it, in a way, Topalov is very lucky to be living in an age where chess software can help combat human preparation. In part, Anand got his wonderful team by being willing to share his preparation with a future competitor and his trainer, an option not available to the ... errr ... more combative personalities in the chess world. If you think about previous paranoid contenders, such as Fischer or Korchnoi, they were always facing large teams of grandmasters and could only counter it with extremely hard work. Now adays, even if you are unwilling or unable to share your thoughts / ideas / preparation with others in a team oriented way, you can at least secure significant hardware support. It would have been amazing to see what Fischer could have done if he had been born in the computer age.
-Sam
One can only imagine....Fischer's IQ was a resounding 189 ! to put that into perspective ....einstien's was around 160. With the power of programs today ...what Fischer might have been able to do is almost scary. That much brain power with so much software power yikes !
Regards
BT
Bear in mind Fischer's IQ is not from a test, but an estimate made.
Einstein's IQ was never measured as well. In both cases the numbers are meaningless, outside that they both had high IQ's. Outside of chess and puzzle solving Fischer wasn't brilliant, Einstein was.
There's a bouncer in the US whose IQ was measured and is over 200. His wife is slightly below 170 but she plays better chess.
So this means what? Right, not too much.
I Googled Fischer IQ, and came up with a page that gave the IQs of many famous people, Fischer being one of them. It had Einstein with an IQ of 160, and Sharon Stone at 154... It took a while for me to stop laughing.
The internet is certainly entertaining at times...
kingliveson wrote:
Uri, I couldn't disagree more. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Vas allowing access to his software for a fee. Vas is a business man, and the WC had no rules that you couldn't use any tools available for preparation. It didn't help as the result showed, but that's another story...
Now that I think about it, in a way, Topalov is very lucky to be living in an age where chess software can help combat human preparation. In part, Anand got his wonderful team by being willing to share his preparation with a future competitor and his trainer, an option not available to the ... errr ... more combative personalities in the chess world. If you think about previous paranoid contenders, such as Fischer or Korchnoi, they were always facing large teams of grandmasters and could only counter it with extremely hard work. Now adays, even if you are unwilling or unable to share your thoughts / ideas / preparation with others in a team oriented way, you can at least secure significant hardware support. It would have been amazing to see what Fischer could have done if he had been born in the computer age.
-Sam
One can only imagine....Fischer's IQ was a resounding 189 ! to put that into perspective ....einstien's was around 160. With the power of programs today ...what Fischer might have been able to do is almost scary. That much brain power with so much software power yikes !
Regards
BT
Bear in mind Fischer's IQ is not from a test, but an estimate made.
Einstein's IQ was never measured as well. In both cases the numbers are meaningless, outside that they both had high IQ's. Outside of chess and puzzle solving Fischer wasn't brilliant, Einstein was.
There's a bouncer in the US whose IQ was measured and is over 200. His wife is slightly below 170 but she plays better chess.
So this means what? Right, not too much.
I Googled Fischer IQ, and came up with a page that gave the IQs of many famous people, Fischer being one of them. It had Einstein with an IQ of 160, and Sharon Stone at 154... It took a while for me to stop laughing.
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
kingliveson wrote:
Uri, I couldn't disagree more. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Vas allowing access to his software for a fee. Vas is a business man, and the WC had no rules that you couldn't use any tools available for preparation. It didn't help as the result showed, but that's another story...
Now that I think about it, in a way, Topalov is very lucky to be living in an age where chess software can help combat human preparation. In part, Anand got his wonderful team by being willing to share his preparation with a future competitor and his trainer, an option not available to the ... errr ... more combative personalities in the chess world. If you think about previous paranoid contenders, such as Fischer or Korchnoi, they were always facing large teams of grandmasters and could only counter it with extremely hard work. Now adays, even if you are unwilling or unable to share your thoughts / ideas / preparation with others in a team oriented way, you can at least secure significant hardware support. It would have been amazing to see what Fischer could have done if he had been born in the computer age.
-Sam
One can only imagine....Fischer's IQ was a resounding 189 ! to put that into perspective ....einstien's was around 160. With the power of programs today ...what Fischer might have been able to do is almost scary. That much brain power with so much software power yikes !
Regards
BT
Bear in mind Fischer's IQ is not from a test, but an estimate made.
Einstein's IQ was never measured as well. In both cases the numbers are meaningless, outside that they both had high IQ's. Outside of chess and puzzle solving Fischer wasn't brilliant, Einstein was.
There's a bouncer in the US whose IQ was measured and is over 200. His wife is slightly below 170 but she plays better chess.
First off, you may be surprised to find that Albert Einstein is not included on this list. The reason is that I have used a table of IQ estimates for historical geniuses to determine the members and order of this list, and Einstein’s IQ (around 160) did not make the grade. Despite that, he is still the first person to pop in to most people’s minds when thinking of a genius. Having said that, here is a list of the ten greatest geniuses in history.
1. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe IQ: 210
2. Leonardo Da Vinci IQ: 205
3. Emanuel Swedenborg IQ: 205
4. Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz IQ: 205
5. John Stuart Mill IQ: 200
6. Blaise Pascal IQ: 195
7. Ludwig Wittgenstein IQ: 190
8. Bobby Fischer IQ: 187
9. Galileo Galilei IQ: 185
10. Madame De Stael IQ: 180
Albert Silver wrote:
I Googled Fischer IQ, and came up with a page that gave the IQs of many famous people, Fischer being one of them. It had Einstein with an IQ of 160, and Sharon Stone at 154... It took a while for me to stop laughing.
IIRC Kasparov's IQ was measured, and it was about 130...
kingliveson wrote:
Uri, I couldn't disagree more. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Vas allowing access to his software for a fee. Vas is a business man, and the WC had no rules that you couldn't use any tools available for preparation. It didn't help as the result showed, but that's another story...
Now that I think about it, in a way, Topalov is very lucky to be living in an age where chess software can help combat human preparation. In part, Anand got his wonderful team by being willing to share his preparation with a future competitor and his trainer, an option not available to the ... errr ... more combative personalities in the chess world. If you think about previous paranoid contenders, such as Fischer or Korchnoi, they were always facing large teams of grandmasters and could only counter it with extremely hard work. Now adays, even if you are unwilling or unable to share your thoughts / ideas / preparation with others in a team oriented way, you can at least secure significant hardware support. It would have been amazing to see what Fischer could have done if he had been born in the computer age.
-Sam
One can only imagine....Fischer's IQ was a resounding 189 ! to put that into perspective ....einstien's was around 160. With the power of programs today ...what Fischer might have been able to do is almost scary. That much brain power with so much software power yikes !
Regards
BT
Bear in mind Fischer's IQ is not from a test, but an estimate made.
Einstein's IQ was never measured as well. In both cases the numbers are meaningless, outside that they both had high IQ's. Outside of chess and puzzle solving Fischer wasn't brilliant, Einstein was.
There's a bouncer in the US whose IQ was measured and is over 200. His wife is slightly below 170 but she plays better chess.
First off, you may be surprised to find that Albert Einstein is not included on this list. The reason is that I have used a table of IQ estimates for historical geniuses to determine the members and order of this list, and Einstein’s IQ (around 160) did not make the grade. Despite that, he is still the first person to pop in to most people’s minds when thinking of a genius. Having said that, here is a list of the ten greatest geniuses in history.
1. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe IQ: 210
2. Leonardo Da Vinci IQ: 205
3. Emanuel Swedenborg IQ: 205
4. Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz IQ: 205
5. John Stuart Mill IQ: 200
6. Blaise Pascal IQ: 195
7. Ludwig Wittgenstein IQ: 190
8. Bobby Fischer IQ: 187
9. Galileo Galilei IQ: 185
10. Madame De Stael IQ: 180
Albert Silver wrote:
I Googled Fischer IQ, and came up with a page that gave the IQs of many famous people, Fischer being one of them. It had Einstein with an IQ of 160, and Sharon Stone at 154... It took a while for me to stop laughing.
IIRC Kasparov's IQ was measured, and it was about 130...