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Robert Hyatt



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PostPost subject: Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene    Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:34 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

Rolf wrote:
bob wrote:


Let's stick to facts. +I+ don't sue Vas for several reasons:

(1) I have no standing to do so. I have not been "damaged" by him in any way, he did not steal my code, he has not cost me any money. Only Fabien or FSF could sue him and not have the case tossed out.

(2) I have nothing to gain and much to lose. It would take time. It would cost money. And with no potential damages to reclaim, what reason wouldl I have to jump into that quagmire.

nd hatred? Or is this another example of gross inconsistency in your argument?



Thanks for the clarity. Would you make the same chain for Fabien in return? Because you claim the he must have been damaged. Question from Germany: Why doesnt he sue Vas?????


I don't accept that argument, _period_. If there is enough evidence to convict one, based on expert opinion, then that is enough. Prosecution is not required except to exact justice. Justice is less important here than just knowing the _facts_. There are other clones. Quite a few, in fact.



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Bob, do you see a minimal chance that this reason might have something to do with my position that Vas didnt harm Fabien at all but everything was kosher between the two?


No, because A can't copy code from B and be legal in _any_ tournament or event which has a no clone/derivative rule. Doesn't matter what B says, B is _still_ an author of the program A produced. We _already_ have a copy of Fruit, named "Toga". And it has been allowed with Fabien's approval with him listed as an author. A second such program is not allowable. _ever_. And when A copies B but explicitly denies anything was copied... the term "poor ethical behaviour" is the first thing that comes to mind.


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And if that were true (the truth!), could it be that the hate campaign was nonsense all the time and you should apologize to the Champion? BTW did you know that Vas grew up in the USA for a part of his life? Why is he so thoughtful then? Isnt he a good role model for a scientist?


I have no idea what you mean by "hate campaign." The correct name would be "truth campaign." As for where he grew up, who cares and why would that matter at all, anyway?



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Isnt there no chance that we could live together in peace enjoying computerchess? I mean Vas is now entering the field where you have been in your past with Cray, no? Could Cray be called a Cluster too? Where are the differences. Please say some words about it. Thanks in advance.


Cray is _not_ "a cluster" in the forms I have used one.
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Let's get back to Reality in our scene Rolf Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:54 am
      Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Marek Soszynski Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:10 am
            Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Rolf Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:35 am
                  Re: The academics !?! Ruxy Sylwyka Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:18 am
                        Re: The academics !?! Rolf Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:26 am
                        Re: The academics !?! Dr.Wael Deeb Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:41 am
                              Re: The academics !?! Ruxy Sylwyka Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:46 am
      Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Marco Costalba Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:12 am
      Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Robert Flesher Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:17 am
            Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Rolf Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:37 am
                  Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Robert Hyatt Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:37 pm
                        Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Rolf Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:20 pm
                              Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Robert Hyatt Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:49 pm
                                    Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Dr.Wael Deeb Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:04 pm
                                          Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Rolf Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:23 pm
                                                Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Dr.Wael Deeb Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:27 pm
                                    Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Rolf Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:11 pm
                                          Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Robert Hyatt Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:34 pm
                                                Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Rolf Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:06 pm
                                                      Re: Let's get back to Reality in our scene Robert Hyatt Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:28 pm
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