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kgburcham
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just thought you night find this interesting, + questions

Post by kgburcham »

Brilliant #21

[D] 8/3P3k/n2K3p/2p1n3/1b4N1/2p1p1P1/8/3B4 w - -

note "children started"
note how the bigger the tree the higher the kns.
shows 12 threads with HT off.
because chipset gets warm with stock air cooling I have backed off overclock to 3.5 x 12, maybe soon water cooling on chipset.
I wonder when programs show 2048 hash, if this is per socket? I assume it is. I have 6 gig ram per socket, two sockets.
also note Rybka 4 above 1800kns, I assume this is about 15,000 kns.
wonder if Rybka has position learning?
if hash is cleared, is there a stored file that still affects analysis if position is run again?
if I close program and restart will this clear all including learning?
in other words what has to be done to run a test position 3 times?

www.rybkachess.com
CPU0: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU1: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU2: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU3: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU4: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU5: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU6: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU7: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU8: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU9: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU10: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU11: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
GUI: Tablebases with 0 pieces found! [Cache: 1 MB + internal 0.00 MB]
GUI: Shredderbases with 0 pieces found (0 MB)
Children restarted.
Hash size set to 2048 mb
Nalimov path set to <empty>
Nalimov cache set to 1
Limited strength mode disabled.
Engine: Deep Rybka 4 x64 (2048 MB)
by Vasik Rajlich
15.00 0:00 +0.44 1.Kxe5 Ba5 2.Nxe3 Nb4 3.Kd6 Bb6 4.Nc4 Bd8 5.Na3 Kg6 6.Kxc5 Na6+ 7.Kd6 Nb4 8.Ke6 Kg5 9.Bc2 h5 10.Ke5 Kg4 11.Kd4 Bf6+ 12.Kc4 (580.460) 843
16.00 0:01 +0.30 1.Kxe5 Ba5 2.Nxe3 Nb4 3.Kd6 Bb6 4.Nc4 Bd8 5.Na3 Kg6 6.Kxc5 Na6+ 7.Kd6 Kf6 8.Nc2 Be7+ 9.Kc6 Ke6 10.Kb7 Nc5+ 11.Kc7 Bd6+ 12.Kc6 Nxd7 13.Nd4+ Ke5 14.Kxd7 (951.050) 881
17.01 0:01 +0.30 1.Kxe5 Ba5 2.Nxe3 Nb4 3.Kd6 Bb6 4.Nc4 Bd8 5.Na3 Kg6 6.Kxc5 Na6+ 7.Kd6 Kf6 8.Nc2 Be7+ 9.Kc6 Ke6 10.Kb7 Nc5+ 11.Kc7 Bd6+ 12.Kc6 Nxd7 13.Nd4+ Ke5 14.Kxd7 (1.438.106) 920
18.01 0:03 +0.16 1.Kxe5 Ba5 2.Nxe3 Nb4 3.Kd6 Bb6 4.Nc4 Bd8 5.Na3 c4 6.Ke5 Kg7 7.Kd4 Kf7 8.Kxc3 Nd5+ 9.Kd4 Nb6 10.Nxc4 Nxd7 11.Bg4 Nf6 12.Bf5 Ke7 13.Ke3 Bc7 14.Kf3 (3.281.804) 981
19.01 0:03 +0.16 1.Kxe5 Ba5 2.Nxe3 Nb4 3.Kd6 Bb6 4.Nc4 Bd8 5.Na3 c4 6.Ke5 Kg7 7.Kd4 Kf7 8.Kxc3 Nd5+ 9.Kd4 Nb6 10.Nxc4 Nxd7 11.Bg4 Nf6 12.Bf5 Ke7 13.Ke3 Bc7 14.Kf3 (3.877.313) 1004
19.03 0:05 +0.28++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 e1Q 8.Bf3+ (5.144.224) 1000
19.01 0:05 +0.43++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 e1Q 8.Bf3+ (5.352.400) 995
19.01 0:05 +0.83++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 e1Q 8.Bf3+ (5.679.750) 987
19.01 0:06 +1.63++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 e1Q 8.Bf3+ (6.299.109) 983
19.01 0:07 +3.23++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 (7.698.606) 995
19.01 0:12 +6.43++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 (13.622.478) 1069
19.01 0:24 +12.83++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Kg4 6.Qh4+ Kf3 7.Kxf7 Ke2 8.Qh2+ Kf3 9.Bd3 e2 10.Qxe2+ Kxg3 11.Bxa6 Kf4 12.Kg6 Kg3 13.Qe3+ Kg2 (32.367.506) 1306
19.01 0:30 +25.63++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 (42.407.799) 1383
19.01 0:32 +51.23++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nc4+ 5.Ke6 Kg4 6.Qh4+ Kf3 7.Be4+ Ke2 8.Qh2+ Kd1 9.Qc2+ Ke1 10.Bf3 Nc7+ 11.Kf5 Nd6+ 12.Kg6 Kf1 13.Qe2+ Kg1 14.Qg2+ (45.669.045) 1395
19.01 0:49 +M12 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Kg4 6.Qh4+ Kf3 7.Be4+ Kf2 8.Qh2+ Ke1 9.Bd3 Nd8+ 10.Kf5 Kd1 11.Qe2+ Kc1 12.Qc2+ (76.574.984) 1557
20.01 0:53 +M15 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 (83.299.173) 1564
21.01 1:24 +M12 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Kg4 6.Qh4+ Kf3 7.Be4+ Kf2 8.Qh2+ Ke1 9.Bd3 Nd8+ 10.Kf5 Kd1 11.Qe2+ Kc1 12.Qc2+ (144.288.084) 1699
22.01 2:18 +M12 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 e1Q 8.Bf3+ (246.022.243) 1771
23.01 2:19 +M15 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 e1Q 8.Bf3+ (246.264.468) 1770
24.01 3:52 +M12 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Kg4 6.Qh4+ Kf3 7.Be4+ Kf2 8.Qh2+ Ke1 9.Bd3 Nd8+ 10.Kf5 Kd1 11.Qe2+ Kc1 12.Qc2+ (426.355.039) 1831
24.01 4:01 +M12 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Kg4 6.Qh4+ Kf3 7.Be4+ Kf2 8.Qh2+ Ke1 9.Bd3 Nd8+ 10.Kf5 Kd1 11.Qe2+ Kc1 12.Qc2+ (442.204.160) 1831
best move: Ng4-f6 time: 4:01.969 min n/s: 1.831.892 nodes: 442.204.160
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Nimzovik
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Re: just thought you night find this interesting, + question

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Yes...... I have wondered about this....
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bob
Posts: 20943
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:30 pm
Location: Birmingham, AL

Re: just thought you night find this interesting, + question

Post by bob »

kgburcham wrote:Brilliant #21

[D] 8/3P3k/n2K3p/2p1n3/1b4N1/2p1p1P1/8/3B4 w - -

note "children started"
note how the bigger the tree the higher the kns.
shows 12 threads with HT off.
because chipset gets warm with stock air cooling I have backed off overclock to 3.5 x 12, maybe soon water cooling on chipset.
I wonder when programs show 2048 hash, if this is per socket? I assume it is. I have 6 gig ram per socket, two sockets.
None do this that i know of. I don't know of any program that is aware of the actual architecture (ie how many sockets, cores per socket, etc...)
also note Rybka 4 above 1800kns, I assume this is about 15,000 kns.
wonder if Rybka has position learning?
if hash is cleared, is there a stored file that still affects analysis if position is run again?
if I close program and restart will this clear all including learning?
in other words what has to be done to run a test position 3 times?

www.rybkachess.com
CPU0: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU1: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU2: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU3: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU4: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU5: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU6: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU7: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU8: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU9: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU10: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
CPU11: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 3521 MHz
GUI: Tablebases with 0 pieces found! [Cache: 1 MB + internal 0.00 MB]
GUI: Shredderbases with 0 pieces found (0 MB)
Children restarted.
Hash size set to 2048 mb
Nalimov path set to <empty>
Nalimov cache set to 1
Limited strength mode disabled.
Engine: Deep Rybka 4 x64 (2048 MB)
by Vasik Rajlich
15.00 0:00 +0.44 1.Kxe5 Ba5 2.Nxe3 Nb4 3.Kd6 Bb6 4.Nc4 Bd8 5.Na3 Kg6 6.Kxc5 Na6+ 7.Kd6 Nb4 8.Ke6 Kg5 9.Bc2 h5 10.Ke5 Kg4 11.Kd4 Bf6+ 12.Kc4 (580.460) 843
16.00 0:01 +0.30 1.Kxe5 Ba5 2.Nxe3 Nb4 3.Kd6 Bb6 4.Nc4 Bd8 5.Na3 Kg6 6.Kxc5 Na6+ 7.Kd6 Kf6 8.Nc2 Be7+ 9.Kc6 Ke6 10.Kb7 Nc5+ 11.Kc7 Bd6+ 12.Kc6 Nxd7 13.Nd4+ Ke5 14.Kxd7 (951.050) 881
17.01 0:01 +0.30 1.Kxe5 Ba5 2.Nxe3 Nb4 3.Kd6 Bb6 4.Nc4 Bd8 5.Na3 Kg6 6.Kxc5 Na6+ 7.Kd6 Kf6 8.Nc2 Be7+ 9.Kc6 Ke6 10.Kb7 Nc5+ 11.Kc7 Bd6+ 12.Kc6 Nxd7 13.Nd4+ Ke5 14.Kxd7 (1.438.106) 920
18.01 0:03 +0.16 1.Kxe5 Ba5 2.Nxe3 Nb4 3.Kd6 Bb6 4.Nc4 Bd8 5.Na3 c4 6.Ke5 Kg7 7.Kd4 Kf7 8.Kxc3 Nd5+ 9.Kd4 Nb6 10.Nxc4 Nxd7 11.Bg4 Nf6 12.Bf5 Ke7 13.Ke3 Bc7 14.Kf3 (3.281.804) 981
19.01 0:03 +0.16 1.Kxe5 Ba5 2.Nxe3 Nb4 3.Kd6 Bb6 4.Nc4 Bd8 5.Na3 c4 6.Ke5 Kg7 7.Kd4 Kf7 8.Kxc3 Nd5+ 9.Kd4 Nb6 10.Nxc4 Nxd7 11.Bg4 Nf6 12.Bf5 Ke7 13.Ke3 Bc7 14.Kf3 (3.877.313) 1004
19.03 0:05 +0.28++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 e1Q 8.Bf3+ (5.144.224) 1000
19.01 0:05 +0.43++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 e1Q 8.Bf3+ (5.352.400) 995
19.01 0:05 +0.83++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 e1Q 8.Bf3+ (5.679.750) 987
19.01 0:06 +1.63++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 e1Q 8.Bf3+ (6.299.109) 983
19.01 0:07 +3.23++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 (7.698.606) 995
19.01 0:12 +6.43++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 (13.622.478) 1069
19.01 0:24 +12.83++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Kg4 6.Qh4+ Kf3 7.Kxf7 Ke2 8.Qh2+ Kf3 9.Bd3 e2 10.Qxe2+ Kxg3 11.Bxa6 Kf4 12.Kg6 Kg3 13.Qe3+ Kg2 (32.367.506) 1306
19.01 0:30 +25.63++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 (42.407.799) 1383
19.01 0:32 +51.23++ 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nc4+ 5.Ke6 Kg4 6.Qh4+ Kf3 7.Be4+ Ke2 8.Qh2+ Kd1 9.Qc2+ Ke1 10.Bf3 Nc7+ 11.Kf5 Nd6+ 12.Kg6 Kf1 13.Qe2+ Kg1 14.Qg2+ (45.669.045) 1395
19.01 0:49 +M12 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Kg4 6.Qh4+ Kf3 7.Be4+ Kf2 8.Qh2+ Ke1 9.Bd3 Nd8+ 10.Kf5 Kd1 11.Qe2+ Kc1 12.Qc2+ (76.574.984) 1557
20.01 0:53 +M15 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 (83.299.173) 1564
21.01 1:24 +M12 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Kg4 6.Qh4+ Kf3 7.Be4+ Kf2 8.Qh2+ Ke1 9.Bd3 Nd8+ 10.Kf5 Kd1 11.Qe2+ Kc1 12.Qc2+ (144.288.084) 1699
22.01 2:18 +M12 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 e1Q 8.Bf3+ (246.022.243) 1771
23.01 2:19 +M15 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Nxd8+ 6.Kf5 e2 7.Be4 e1Q 8.Bf3+ (246.264.468) 1770
24.01 3:52 +M12 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Kg4 6.Qh4+ Kf3 7.Be4+ Kf2 8.Qh2+ Ke1 9.Bd3 Nd8+ 10.Kf5 Kd1 11.Qe2+ Kc1 12.Qc2+ (426.355.039) 1831
24.01 4:01 +M12 1.Nf6+ Kg7 2.Nh5+ Kg6 3.Bc2+ Kxh5 4.d8Q Nf7+ 5.Ke6 Kg4 6.Qh4+ Kf3 7.Be4+ Kf2 8.Qh2+ Ke1 9.Bd3 Nd8+ 10.Kf5 Kd1 11.Qe2+ Kc1 12.Qc2+ (442.204.160) 1831
best move: Ng4-f6 time: 4:01.969 min n/s: 1.831.892 nodes: 442.204.160
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